If I Can't Have Nice Hair, At Least Gimme Nice Skin.

[pizzadriver1933]

Topic says it all.

I've had years of acne and got the hang of it, but my skin overall doesn't look that good. The skin on my nose is generally is more reddish than everything else and small little nasty veins are showing.

The rest of my faceskin looks stressed out, big pores, and uneven surface in general.

So i stumbled upon a topic where people are discussing some topical options.

In general i'm interested in a product (or mix it myself, if you can help me how) that contains vitamin c and topical b3..

Can you recommend me something?

I'm already using 2 creams for my acne every night;

benzoyl peroxide for cleansing and some skincare cream to counter the drying effect.

 

[Yakitori]

How severe are your skin problems? Just bad or VERY BAD?

 

[AllerganSaveUs]

Retin-A (tretinoin) would be good for this. It is good for the skin, has an anti-aging effect by increasing collagen, and is good for getting rid of acne. This is all clinically proven. Make sure you get the real prescription strength and not the much weaker retinol. Make sure you don't use it at the exact same time as Benzoyl Peroxide because Benzoyl Peroxide may make tretinoin ineffective.

 

[pizzadriver1933]

How severe are your skin problems? Just bad or VERY BAD?

Nah, not really bad, but certainly not really good. The skin on my nose on the other hand.. these veins ..seen those on old people lol.

Retin-A (tretinoin)

Hey, thanks for the hint, i'm seeing my Doctor in 2 days and asking for a prescription, seems like i need one for that, havn't found anything else so far. Do you think it's a nice addition to Benzoyl Peroxide or rather a replacement? BPO is doing a good job on my acne, but that's it.

 

[Capone]

If you don’t care about hairloss then Tretinion is king.

 

[Zoro]

finasteride/dutasteride tbh. Didn't have much acne before, but after finasteride and dutasteride I rarely ever get acne unless I eat a shitload of dairy for a few days, and even then benzoyl peroxide soap bar keeps it from forming, although I see you said you're already using that. Might want to start with the lowest strength tretinoin cream or gel. Look at your diet too, reduce/cut out dairy and you'll probably see a difference.

 

[pizzadriver1933]

If you don’t care about hairloss then Tretinion is king.

lol, of course i care, too much, but i can't help it...my stupid hairline won't change for sh**. But where's the connection? Is Tretinion bad for my hair?

finasteride/dutasteride tbh.

I was using finasteride for about 8 years but stopped 5 years ago. I had some sides and it went away after a while. It didn't really affect my hairline so far to my surprise, it's maybe getting worse reeaally slow, but that was also true while taking the finasteride.

The only thing i'm using against hairloss right now is castor oil, but yeah, i'm not too convinced it's going to do much, but will see.

 

[Derelict]

As others have said tretinoin is your best bet, if it's too strong for your skin differin would also work. I use differin and dermarolling on my skin. 2mm dermaroller and dermastamp every month and 0.5mm everytime i apply differin.

 

[Rocknroutlaw]

I suffered from cystic acne through my teens till early 30s, so I feel your pain.
The acnes left me with terrible pitting scars, large pores and horrible skin tone, even ten years after being (mostly) acne-free.
So far, I have had 2 sessions of microdermabrasion, 3 sessions of pixel laser, and now regularly microneedling (using Derminator).
I'd say all the above procedures have helped. Dermabrasion only helped even out the skin tone. Pixel laser seems to have had the most impact, although a subsequent consultation with another skin specialist suggested erbium yag or CO2 in order to have any further improvement (anymore Pixel sessions will only maintain).
Currently I'm holding off, and maintaining with facial microneedling which I quite like.
I need my hair sorted first!

 

[Capone]

lol, of course i care, too much, but i can't help it...my stupid hairline won't change for sh**. But where's the connection? Is Tretinion bad for my hair

Yes, it’s been known to play havoc with hair and mess with the cycle, via upregulation of TGF-beta2 in the DP. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/15955085/

 

[countjulian]

Yes, it’s been known to play havoc with hair and mess with the cycle, via upregulation of TGF-beta2 in the DP. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/15955085/

Wow really! One of my hair medications includes tretinion!

 

[Retinoid]

Yes, it’s been known to play havoc with hair and mess with the cycle, via upregulation of TGF-beta2 in the DP. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/15955085/

You realize that is ORAL tretinoin and not topical tretinoin on your face? There is no correlation to topical tretinoin and hair loss.

 

[Capone]

You realize that is ORAL tretinoin and not topical tretinoin on your face? There is no correlation to topical tretinoin and hair loss.

Of course there is. It goes systemic. You can read all the comments on skincare forums about the problem.

 

[countjulian]

Of course there is. It goes systemic. You can read all the comments on skincare forums about the problem.

Then why is it actually included in so many hair regrowth regimes? My regime includes topical on my scalp as well aa my face and I have seen a ton of regrowth

 

[Retinoid]

Of course there is. It goes systemic. You can read all the comments on skincare forums about the problem.

That is like saying you found a study that oral prednisone reduces the immune system and can allow certain infections to proliferate and then say topical cortisone cream should not be used because it suppresses the immune system.

Topical tretinoin does not go systemic enough to cause the side effects that oral tretinoin does. You posting the study is like fake news. Also I do not care what forum people say, look at this forum. Full of misinformation.

 

[Capone]

That is like saying you found a study that oral prednisone reduces the immune system and can allow certain infections to proliferate and then say topical cortisone cream should not be used because it suppresses the immune system.

Topical tretinoin does not go systemic enough to cause the side effects that oral tretinoin does. You posting the study is like fake news. Also I do not care what forum people say, look at this forum. Full of misinformation.

Ehh Prednisone is used to treat Leukaemia and Cortisone is used for anti-inflammatory. What are you talking about?

How do you know what quantity of Tretinion goes systemic? Proof? Or are you just taking a wild guess? I know, from using it.

 

[Capone]

Then why is it actually included in so many hair regrowth regimes? My regime includes topical on my scalp as well aa my face and I have seen a ton of regrowth

You are using it with minoxidil, which is causing the “ton of regrowth” ,any pics?

 

[pizzadriver1933]

I'm following this, interesting, but for now i'm certainly not jumping too quick on tretinoin because i wasn't looking for something that's potentially making my hair worse. It's bad enough as it is lol. But thanks so far to everybody providing all this great information!

 

[Retinoid]

Ehh Prednisone is used to treat Leukaemia and Cortisone is used for anti-inflammatory. What are you talking about?

How do you know what quantity of Tretinion goes systemic? Proof? Or are you just taking a wild guess? I know, from using it.

Capone stop asking people for proof to disprove your claim about topical tretinoin based on a study that was based on oral tretinoin. YOU prove topical tretinoin causes hair loss, you made the claim.

 

[Capone]

Capone stop asking people for proof to disprove your claim about topical tretinoin based on a study that was based on oral tretinoin. YOU prove topical tretinoin causes hair loss, you made the claim.

You’re acting like the oral and topical are two totally different drugs. They are the SAME. Anything absorbed by the skin can and will go systemic. Your username tells me it’s pointless proving anything because you won’t accept it.. ciao