I think propecia is good for general health.

[CCS]

As men age, we make more DHT and get hairier bodies and less hair on our head, some just faster than others. Some cancers are spead up by DHT. male pattern baldness is an autoimmune disease. There are several factors and angles, but basically hormone processing sets off pathways that bring the immune system in for attack. Yeah, there are bad growth factors too.

Arthritis and athsma and lupus and many other "age related diseases" are autoimmune diseases. Did you know that women who want to became me and take testosterone can get male pattern baldness? Yep. And older women lose hair too, and get a little lip hair. Older people make less DHEA, less testosterone or esterogen, and more DHT.

Then there are big unsightly pores from DHT stimulated over active sebum glands. You know hampster flank organ (a bundle of sebum glands) gets bigger in the presence of DHT. Look at a 30 year old who looks all rugged and just aged on his face, and ask yourself what you think caused the aged look. Testosterone affects the skin thickness too. You don't want too much, but there is an optimal level, and many people are not at the optimal level, even in youth. Maybe that is why some people age faster than others. Not me. I'm getting my levels tested.

Now DHT has its uses, like for male genitals at the right time in development and adulescence, but I think hormone modulation with DHEA, grapeseed extract, and finasteride may be a strong start to anti-aging. Yeah, there are other factors too, but this is a big start.

 

[Guest]

how do you explain the fact that old men lose their bodyhair when they get older? higher estrogen levels? same reason why their tittays droop?

 

[CCS]

conversion of testosterone to DHT or estrogen happens inside of cells. Blood levels have little impact. Which tissues produce each hormone is genetically determined. Not all old guys lose their body hair. Many get really hairy. And they can be hairy and have droopy tits at the same time for the reasons mentioned. You can reduce estrogen levels with grapeseed extract, and reduce DHT levels with finasteride, and increase testosterone levels with DHEA. Soy is available.

Blood bulk effects: DHEA, soy.
Cellular local effects: finasteride, grapeseed extract, topicals.

 

[hairwegoagain]

CCS, have you dated the biatch yet?

 

[Aplunk1]

CCS, have you thrown the meat to the biatch yet?

I think we'd here about it, by now, if he did.

CCS, how IS everything going with her? Have you gotten some nipple-action yet?

 

[CCS]

CCS, have you thrown the meat to the biatch yet?

I think we'd here about it, by now, if he did.

no you would not. And why can't you guys post that sh*t in a different thread?

Anyway, people with lower DHEA levels also have worse cholesterol ratios. Now the only issue here is that the normal range spans a factor of 5 or so. So I wonder how they determined the optimal levels.

 

[Guest]

conversion of testosterone to DHT or estrogen happens inside of cells. Blood levels have little impact. Which tissues produce each hormone is genetically determined. Not all old guys lose their body hair. Many get really hairy. And they can be hairy and have droopy tits at the same time for the reasons mentioned. You can reduce estrogen levels with grapeseed extract, and reduce DHT levels with finasteride, and increase testosterone levels with DHEA. Soy is available.

Blood bulk effects: DHEA, soy.
Cellular local effects: finasteride, grapeseed extract, topicals.

why would i want to decrease estrogen and increase testosterone? wouldn't increasing testosterone put my hair at risk? estrogen should protect it.

 

[CCS]

that is why you put the GSE on your nipples and chest and not on your head.

 

[Guest]

that is why you put the GSE on your nipples and chest and not on your head.

you say i rub GSE on my tittays? maybe i should enlist the help of gardener for that.

 

[KiLLuMiNaTi]

I dont think your right about propecia being good for you and having an anti ageing effect..the reason for this is propecia if used for many years can increase the risk of osteoporosis because DHT is needed for bone strentgh, also why would older men be put on testosterone replacement therapy by doctors to feel better younger if testosterone and DHT were bad?? I dont really think of Male pattern baldness as a disease as such ,sure i hate it and i wish i could have my hair the rest of mylife ..But its widely known now that male pattern baldness is a sign of a male being virile to the opposite sex and represents the peak of sexual maturity nothing more nothing less.

 

[s.a.f]

its widely known now that male pattern baldness is a sign of a male being virile to the opposite sex and represents the peak of sexual maturity nothing more nothing less.

I wish I shared your optimism on that! :shock:

 

[KiLLuMiNaTi]

its a known fact ..im not optimistic though , no one wants to be bald

 

[CCS]

do we know that DHT and no testosterone protects bone density?

 

[KiLLuMiNaTi]

The Doctor who invented FUE told me about lack of DHT and osteoporosis thats where i got my information from ...

 

[oni]

The Doctor who invented FUE told me about lack of DHT and osteoporosis thats where i got my information from ...

:lol:

 

[CCS]

The Doctor who invented FUE told me about lack of DHT and osteoporosis thats where i got my information from ...

:lol:

what is so funny? You think a hair transplant Doctor wants more business by dissing finasteride?

 

[KiLLuMiNaTi]

he probably does , its Dr woods that told me that from http://www.thewoodstechnique.com he also told me propecia was poison ,so yeah i think he was dissing finasteride lol

 

[CCS]

I still want to look into it, but I think testosterone grows bones. But that could be from earlier studies that are not done well and do not take the conversion to DHT into account.

Anyway, a roid user told me that DHT is not anabolic. It is just androgenic.

 

[KiLLuMiNaTi]

yeah testosterone is highly androgenic aswell is highly anabolic , the androgenic causes the hairloss because you get steroids that are only anabolic and they hardly cause any hairloss its the androgens that convert to DHT and destroy hair.

 

[KiLLuMiNaTi]

Human Growth Hormone is actually ment to grow hair back!! but im not sure if the hair that grows can be kept ..It would be great if the hairs grown stayed and you could use Finestiride or something to keep them from falling out again ...