tomas99
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In last days and weeks, I have been seriously evaluating all aspects of fight with hairloss and current fight was causing me so much stress. Checking hair everyday in the mirror, reading articles, studies, materials, forums, thinking about it all the time, being depressed everytime when you noticed you have lost another hair in your hairline at temples. It is terrible thing and I must say it was consuming me. I was still talking about it with some friends, still thinking about it. I realized (as below) there is nothing that can help me and and not cause me any problems I am not able to accept, so I will probably let it be.
Of course that my words have no such value as words of someone who is NW4. I got in 10 months from teenage hair to lets say Norwood 1.5 or about, when hair is little bit diffused all over the head as it has been shedding for like 7 months and it stopped in last weeks. I had some problems and hormonal imbalance caused me this. When I first visited Doctor, my Testosterone was double as it should be as I had some stomach bacteria. So this is for those thinking about testosterone - yes if your Test is doubled, so is DHT probably and I have lost at temples about 1/2 inch of superthick hair to zero in three months. It slowed down after I cured that stomach thing and Testosterone got back. So I guess I kicked up my hairloss and speed it for few years in that period
I must say that diet I presented here helped somehow, I took lot of supplements but there is so many hassles with it that I am not able to handle it anymore. Even if it literally stops my hairloss for tens of years, I am not able to go this way - I feel like a freak when popping so many pills each meal and also be on diet was very hard as I am pretty slim and I have always been able to eat everything with having less than 3% of body fat. Btw. if you want to have absolutely 0 of acne and clearest skin off all, try to eliminate for 1-2 weeks: sugar, fried, pasta, white bread, junk food and refined. You will see difference and if not I give you money back, guaranteed. I have stopped diet anyway. I think that most helpful could be antioxidants (like green tea, plenty of it) and Omega 3, also lot of it. And avoiding refined, junk and sugars.
I am still considering taking Finasteride. Just to take it and slow down the proccess for some years. I have taken it in the summer but I think it was causing me some anxiety and depressions. However, it was very stressful period and it could be due to that. Fact is that I was not able to handle stress or any pressure and it were feelings I never experienced. I still have some Proscar, but after that I am little bit afraid of long term of use it. I am doing lot of things where I need my mind clear, where I must be able to handle stress and stay focused, like playing tennis or poker, my work and entire life. I also dont think that lower libido is no problem as your sex drive is what often drives you forward.
So, just popping finasteride is not so easy decision and I am not be very excited with potential sides.
I am just adding lithium + DMSO into my shampoo as it should ihibit some proteins that are signalled by DHT, it is just because it is easy to applicate (no hassles at all).
I have used Spectral DNC for about forth months. Despite it was period where there has been hormonal imbalance in my body, it seemed my hair got thicker in that time and finally stopped shedding. Mostly, it seemed that it almost stop any recession. I gave it up in summer, it has worsened little bit after that. So I can say it has worked, but as said not worth of such hassle. Its not only about 10-20 minutes in the morning and evening - you can not avoid thinking during this time about your hair, which is contraproductive. Not talking about fact that you will not be able to aply it when you are away or when you break up later or when you come home from party etc. No topicals except shampoo please. Btw. I have also used Tricomin but can not say if it worked. Perhaps yes. That is the only topical I would also even consider as it does not mess up your hair and is probably capable to delay hairloss process (not just hide like minoxidil does).
So yes there are many options that can help you but. I dont think there will be cure ever. Only cure is to change DNA or clonning. Hairloss seems so complicated and influenced by so many things (like cortisol when you are under heavy stress) which can not be treated for 100%. If you have slow or simply hairloss something from above (or others) could help you but you must decide all pros and cons.
If that thing with Lithium + DMSO in shampoo would work or if I finally decide to try finasteride and stay on it for some time and will see that it works, I will definitely get back there to let you know any positive info.
Life is really too short and noone is young forever, so I think that would be mistake to spend next years in fear and with depression from losing hair as these could be best year of my life - I am at age (24) where I can take completely care of myself but still very young with no responsibility to someone and I want to enjoy it as much as I want. It simply happened, DNA is DNA and it is there. You could be lucky and it can be slow, finasteride or even Nizoral can help you to keep it but you are not in control, so worrying about it would just not make you happier.
I was asking this question many times - if you do everything about hairloss (trying many products in few years, spending thousands of hours at HairLossTalk.com etc.) and finally stop it, would you be happy? I dont, because if I spend all my efforts and energy. Btw. about girls, I have never seen nice and fine girl with guy who has full head of hair but who is spending all his afforts to such hair If you care too much about one thing, you can not involve in another. Thats why bodybuliders are not usually considered as genius - if you spend 1/2 time at gym, how much time left for other things? Same with hairloss.
Good luck to everyone here, I dont wish you full heads of hair, rather I wish you to be as much happy in your lives as you can
Tomas
Of course that my words have no such value as words of someone who is NW4. I got in 10 months from teenage hair to lets say Norwood 1.5 or about, when hair is little bit diffused all over the head as it has been shedding for like 7 months and it stopped in last weeks. I had some problems and hormonal imbalance caused me this. When I first visited Doctor, my Testosterone was double as it should be as I had some stomach bacteria. So this is for those thinking about testosterone - yes if your Test is doubled, so is DHT probably and I have lost at temples about 1/2 inch of superthick hair to zero in three months. It slowed down after I cured that stomach thing and Testosterone got back. So I guess I kicked up my hairloss and speed it for few years in that period
I must say that diet I presented here helped somehow, I took lot of supplements but there is so many hassles with it that I am not able to handle it anymore. Even if it literally stops my hairloss for tens of years, I am not able to go this way - I feel like a freak when popping so many pills each meal and also be on diet was very hard as I am pretty slim and I have always been able to eat everything with having less than 3% of body fat. Btw. if you want to have absolutely 0 of acne and clearest skin off all, try to eliminate for 1-2 weeks: sugar, fried, pasta, white bread, junk food and refined. You will see difference and if not I give you money back, guaranteed. I have stopped diet anyway. I think that most helpful could be antioxidants (like green tea, plenty of it) and Omega 3, also lot of it. And avoiding refined, junk and sugars.
I am still considering taking Finasteride. Just to take it and slow down the proccess for some years. I have taken it in the summer but I think it was causing me some anxiety and depressions. However, it was very stressful period and it could be due to that. Fact is that I was not able to handle stress or any pressure and it were feelings I never experienced. I still have some Proscar, but after that I am little bit afraid of long term of use it. I am doing lot of things where I need my mind clear, where I must be able to handle stress and stay focused, like playing tennis or poker, my work and entire life. I also dont think that lower libido is no problem as your sex drive is what often drives you forward.
So, just popping finasteride is not so easy decision and I am not be very excited with potential sides.
I am just adding lithium + DMSO into my shampoo as it should ihibit some proteins that are signalled by DHT, it is just because it is easy to applicate (no hassles at all).
I have used Spectral DNC for about forth months. Despite it was period where there has been hormonal imbalance in my body, it seemed my hair got thicker in that time and finally stopped shedding. Mostly, it seemed that it almost stop any recession. I gave it up in summer, it has worsened little bit after that. So I can say it has worked, but as said not worth of such hassle. Its not only about 10-20 minutes in the morning and evening - you can not avoid thinking during this time about your hair, which is contraproductive. Not talking about fact that you will not be able to aply it when you are away or when you break up later or when you come home from party etc. No topicals except shampoo please. Btw. I have also used Tricomin but can not say if it worked. Perhaps yes. That is the only topical I would also even consider as it does not mess up your hair and is probably capable to delay hairloss process (not just hide like minoxidil does).
So yes there are many options that can help you but. I dont think there will be cure ever. Only cure is to change DNA or clonning. Hairloss seems so complicated and influenced by so many things (like cortisol when you are under heavy stress) which can not be treated for 100%. If you have slow or simply hairloss something from above (or others) could help you but you must decide all pros and cons.
If that thing with Lithium + DMSO in shampoo would work or if I finally decide to try finasteride and stay on it for some time and will see that it works, I will definitely get back there to let you know any positive info.
Life is really too short and noone is young forever, so I think that would be mistake to spend next years in fear and with depression from losing hair as these could be best year of my life - I am at age (24) where I can take completely care of myself but still very young with no responsibility to someone and I want to enjoy it as much as I want. It simply happened, DNA is DNA and it is there. You could be lucky and it can be slow, finasteride or even Nizoral can help you to keep it but you are not in control, so worrying about it would just not make you happier.
I was asking this question many times - if you do everything about hairloss (trying many products in few years, spending thousands of hours at HairLossTalk.com etc.) and finally stop it, would you be happy? I dont, because if I spend all my efforts and energy. Btw. about girls, I have never seen nice and fine girl with guy who has full head of hair but who is spending all his afforts to such hair
If you care too much about one thing, you can not involve in another. Thats why bodybuliders are not usually considered as genius - if you spend 1/2 time at gym, how much time left for other things? Same with hairloss. Good luck to everyone here, I dont wish you full heads of hair, rather I wish you to be as much happy in your lives as you can
Tomas
