I am too YOUNG for this :cry:

[Jackson198]

:cry: what is the best option for me?

 

[Guest]

Rogaine or propecia

 

[Guest]

Rogaine or propecia

if he is using rogaine he should be using propecia as well. rogaine won't stop hair loss.

jackson your hair loss is not that bad, your hairline is same as mine, maybe a norwood 1.5 you don't have even close to a full island yet.

 

[Nathaniel]

How old are you?

 

[Guest]

he may also just be getting a mature hairline and not balding.

 

[Rage]

Yeap.. minoxidil and finasteride!

 

[Jackson198]

How old are you?

i am 19.
I feel this is the thinnest part.Is that just normal hair loss?

 

[Jackson198]

Rogaine or propecia

if he is using rogaine he should be using propecia as well. rogaine won't stop hair loss.

jackson your hair loss is not that bad, your hairline is same as mine, maybe a norwood 1.5 you don't have even close to a full island yet.

thank you
i would like to try

 

[Jackson198]

he may also just be getting a mature hairline and not balding.

u saw someone like me before?
i don't sure...i just feel different with other people...

 

[Guest]

he may also just be getting a mature hairline and not balding.

u saw someone like me before?
i don't sure...i just feel different with other people...

yes, it's quite common for poeople between 17 and 29 to get matur ehairlines. You are Asian, however, so it's not as common for you as it is for Caucasians. you are probably balding because Asians do not normally get mature hairlines that early, if ever. I'd see a dermatologist to determine your situation.

 

[bubka]

it looks like male pattern baldness to me

guys, it not that tough to know if you have male pattern baldness, run your hand through your hair over a contrasting color surface, if you have hair falling out, its male pattern baldness... 100+ hairs a day and you are losing ground

 

[Jackson198]

but wt happen is the hole in the middle?(the red circle)
that looks like male pattern baldness TOO ?

 

[Nathaniel]

but wt happen is the hole in the middle?(the red circle)
that looks like male pattern baldness TOO ?

Yes.

Get on finasteride (but talk to your doctor first).

And you could also buy some minoxidil, apply in that spot and shampoo with nizoral twice a week.

 

[The Gardener]

I'm a big minoxidil proponent, completely disagree with the assertion that it doesn't stop hairloss because it has certainly worked for me, but in this case I think that minoxidil is definitely NOT the answer for you. minoxidil is for people who need more serious regrowth. The idea that a 19 year old with very minimal hairloss should consider beginning a minoxidil routine that he will have to maintain for the rest of his life is ridiculous.

I think finasteride would be the best and first option for you, but I am hesitant that you should even dabble in that at this point.

I would pick up some nizoral shampoo (at your local market) and start using it twice a week. Then, over the next several months, keep an eye on your hairline and notice if you see any further degradation or loss, or if you are starting to feel any signs of itchiness or irritation that were not normally there before. If you do, then, you might consider finasteride.

From the pictures, I can't tell if you are suffering from actual hair LOSS from male pattern baldness, or if you might be going through some sort of shedding episode which, (and this is JUST my personal observation after years on this forum, and not scientifically backed) I believe is quite common for men at this time of the year (late summer/fall).

Don't panic, and just monitor your hairline for changes. Your hair might stay right were it is for decades, and I'd advise against jumping into a treatment regimen until you start seeing DEFINITE signs of further loss, or classic signs of male pattern baldness, such as irritation, or thinning in the classic male pattern baldness "Norwood" pattern. That's Gardener's stand.

 

[Guest]

I'm a big minoxidil proponent, completely disagree with the assertion that it doesn't stop hairloss because it has certainly worked for me

What part of minoxidil stops hair loss? It thickens existing hair and can regrow in some cases, but it doesn't block 5ar and it doesn't inhibit DHT. Perhaps you'd have more hair at this point had you used finasteride all this time. You may be above baseline from where you started, but maybe your gains from minoxidil were hiding the fact that you were still losing hair. That happens to a lot of people.

I think finasteride would be the best and first option for you, but I am hesitant that you should even dabble in that at this point.

he should see a derm and i think the derm will recommend him getting on propecia. as i said, he is Asian and he's receding at that age? it's bad news. propecia will help him keep his hairline for some time.

[I would pick up some nizoral shampoo (at your local market) and start using it twice a week. Then, over the next several months, keep an eye on your hairline and notice if you see any further degradation or loss, or if you are starting to feel any signs of itchiness or irritation that were not normally there before. If you do, then, you might consider finasteride.

A few months isn't enough time to tell, but nizoral is basically worthless as a stand-alone treatment. I'd combine nizoral with finasteride, after seeing a derm.

 

[The Gardener]

What part of minoxidil stops hair loss? It thickens existing hair and can regrow in some cases, but it doesn't block 5ar and it doesn't inhibit DHT. Perhaps you'd have more hair at this point had you used finasteride all this time. You may be above baseline from where you started, but maybe your gains from minoxidil were hiding the fact that you were still losing hair. That happens to a lot of people.

Yep, I know what you are saying, and its true that minoxidil's regrowth properties have a diminshing curve, and begin to only serve as offset to the continuing loss. But, it has been great for me, regrew the corners of my upper temples and made my center forehead "isthimus" a lot thicker and more styleable. Despite the fact that the regrowth has either stopped or slowed to a hair-by-hair crawl, I'm maintaining cosmetically significant and acceptable results.

I chose not to dabble in finasteride. NOT because I'm one of these side-effects obsessors, but rather because I don't like taking anything internally. It's just a thang of mine, I even avoid aspirin unless I've REALLY got a splitting headache, and I never take cold medicine when I am sick. Call me crazy, I know I am!...

he should see a derm and i think the derm will recommend him getting on propecia. as i said, he is Asian and he's receding at that age? it's bad news. propecia will help him keep his hairline for some time.

Yeah, I don't disagree with you and in fact agree that finasteride would be his best first weapon to use. My concern is timing... most people don't lose all of their hair in a continuous, straight-line time frame, and usually lose it in fits and spurts, periods of recession bracketed by periods of relative maintenance. I am just wondering that if this initial recession is one event that has come and gone, and his next period of recession won't happen for several more years, he may be wasting some money in the meantime.

Many people get a slight maturish recession at age 19, and keep their hairline right where it is for several years before the next stage of recession kicks in. Some people maintain this maturish hairline for the rest of their lives! I guess I am of the belief that someone with an approximate NW1 should be a bit hesitant before starting on a regimen unless they are seeing some definite signs of an impending NW2. But, like I say, I am not contradicting you as I agree with your recommendation to this fellow. I just have a slightly different view on the timing of when the trigger should be pulled on a regimen. Well, much respect to your view, and I could understand why he might want to hop on finasteride now... the whole better early than too late issue... I can understand that.

The nizoral recommendation wasn't intended as a stand alone treatment, rather, it was a preliminary treatment to try to improve the scalp environment and reduce any residual irritation that may have been caused by his initial recession.

 

[Guest]

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Yep, I know what you are saying, and its true that minoxidil's regrowth properties have a diminshing curve, and begin to only serve as offset to the continuing loss. But, it has been great for me, regrew the corners of my upper temples and made my center forehead "isthimus" a lot thicker and more styleable. Despite the fact that the regrowth has either stopped or slowed to a hair-by-hair crawl, I'm maintaining cosmetically significant and acceptable results.

Yep, totally understandable. I would have jumped on finasteride immediately(I did, actually, haha and I'm NW1.5df) but that's just me. Just the whole easier to maintain than to regrow dogma that I know to be true.

I chose not to dabble in finasteride. NOT because I'm one of these side-effects obsessors, but rather because I don't like taking anything internally. It's just a thang of mine, I even avoid aspirin unless I've REALLY got a splitting headache, and I never take cold medicine when I am sick. Call me crazy, I know I am!...

Funny, I'm the total opposite. I have a headache, I take 3 aspirin. Or I take 3 ibuprofen. I have heartburn? I pop 3 Pepto Bismol and don't call my doctor. I have thinning hair? f*** Propecia, I jump on Avodart.

Yeah, I don't disagree with you and in fact agree that finasteride would be his best first weapon to use. My concern is timing... most people don't lose all of their hair in a continuous, straight-line time frame, and usually lose it in fits and spurts, periods of recession bracketed by periods of relative maintenance. I am just wondering that if this initial recession is one event that has come and gone, and his next period of recession won't happen for several more years, he may be wasting some money in the meantime.

It's true that it does come in spurts. But he won't know when the next spurt is coming so it's better to be on finasteride right now for maintenance in my opinion. If money is an issue he can always buy generic finasteride from united or inhouse for $80 a year. Surely someone surfing the web and browsing this forum can afford $80 a year to save their hair. Add in $40 a year for nizoral and that's 33 cents a day to keep their hair for years and years.

Many people get a slight maturish recession at age 19, and keep their hairline right where it is for several years before the next stage of recession kicks in. Some people maintain this maturish hairline for the rest of their lives! I guess I am of the belief that someone with an approximate NW1 should be a bit hesitant before starting on a regimen unless they are seeing some definite signs of an impending NW2.

I actually see him as heading towards a full on NW2 right now, and you are right about NW2 not necessarily being a precursor for male pattern baldness. Plenty of people ages 17-29 develop the mature hairline from the juvenile one. I did. And he is Asian and Asians and Middle Easterners tend to keep their juvenile hairlines more frequently than do Europeans, Africans, etc.

The nizoral recommendation wasn't intended as a stand alone treatment, rather, it was a preliminary treatment to try to improve the scalp environment and reduce any residual irritation that may have been caused by his initial recession.

And it's a good one, in conjunction with Propecia. I don't believe in preliminaries for male pattern baldness treatment because every month you're not on a drug you are probably losing hair that you may or may not get back.

 

[The Gardener]

Word

 

[Jackson198]

ok guys,so i need to get Proscar and minoxidil
And wt is my next step?

 

[The Gardener]

My personal advice would be to skip the minoxidil, given your particular situation.

Start with just the finasteride, and give it some time to see if it does the trick for you.