How Many Grafts Will Be Needed To Fix My Hairline?

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I'm a bit new to all this, so can I asked how exactly is this sort of surgery possible to really mess someone up? From the literature it seems they just transport the hair follicles from one site to another. It's not like it's invasive surgery?

Even if for whatever reason it didn't work and my hair didn't grow, ultimately I'd not be in a worse position than when I started, right? (well, except down $1000, but I can live with that).
It's not as hunky-dory as you think. There's everything that could go wrong and i suggest you to gain all the knowledge that you can from this forum about hair transplants. There are a lot of articles and threads over here that will explain what all goes into delivering a successful transplant. It's a lot more than just taking a few follicles and placing them somewhere else.
 

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I'm a bit new to all this, so can I asked how exactly is this sort of surgery possible to really mess someone up? From the literature it seems they just transport the hair follicles from one site to another. It's not like it's invasive surgery?

Even if for whatever reason it didn't work and my hair didn't grow, ultimately I'd not be in a worse position than when I started, right? (well, except down $1000, but I can live with that).

Potential scarring, pitting and lumps in the recipient, potential of infection or necrosis, poor yield will be see through and clearly like a transplant, density issues could mean it won't match the hair behind it, very often poor doctors angle the grafts poorly which looks unnatural, they could design the shape of the hairline in a way that is unnatural or silly, you could get shock loss in the donor and have patches with no hair in the donor area that don't grow back, you could get shock loss in the recipient which would cause hair close to the recipient behind the transplants to become lost permanently, you could be left with a permanent pink area in the recipient which if nothing grows in it will look ridiculous, your donor is also finite and wasted grafts mean you will have nowhere to draw grafts for future procedures.

Yeah, not exactly worth f*****g up your life over in your position, which isn't all that bad yet. Find a capable doctor if you need this, not a random Indian sh*t head.
 

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Potential scarring, pitting and lumps in the recipient, potential of infection or necrosis, poor yield will be see through and clearly like a transplant, density issues could mean it won't match the hair behind it, very often poor doctors angle the grafts poorly which looks unnatural, they could design the shape of the hairline in a way that is unnatural or silly, you could get shock loss in the donor and have patches with no hair in the donor area that don't grow back, you could get shock loss in the recipient which would cause hair close to the recipient behind the transplants to become lost permanently, you could be left with a permanent pink area in the recipient which if nothing grows in it will look ridiculous, your donor is also finite and wasted grafts mean you will have nowhere to draw grafts for future procedures.

Yeah, not exactly worth f*****g up your life over in your position, which isn't all that bad yet. Find a capable doctor if you need this, not a random Indian sh*t head.

Ok...right.

I'm not really rich enough to be laying out $10,000+ for a 'decent' doctor, so what would you recommend in my position? Just do nothing for now? I'm not taking finasteride, I don't want to roll the dice on my dick never working again, even if the chance is really small. Since at that point you might as well just blow your brains out with a shotgun IMO.

Would minoxidil on it's own help at all?
 

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If you're so adamant about getting a hair transplant,then I'll suggest you to find a better place than this 1000$ shithole. They generally use results of foreigners like you to lure more of the desperate and gullible indian patients. People think that since a foreigner is trusting this place with his hair then it must be a good place. A "competent" hair transplant surgeon in india will demand around 2000$ so it's a bit fishy how a 1000$ one will yield good results. My advice:- Save some more money and go to someone who's competent and reputed.
 

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Ok...right.

I'm not really rich enough to be laying out $10,000+ for a 'decent' doctor, so what would you recommend in my position? Just do nothing for now? I'm not taking finasteride, I don't want to roll the dice on my dick never working again, even if the chance is really small. Since at that point you might as well just blow your brains out with a shotgun IMO.

Would minoxidil on it's own help at all?

Only cucks get dick problems on finasteride. I've been on it for a year no problems. In fact when I first started it it even increased my sex drive.

You'd be looking at 5000 Eurosish with Erdogan for a 2000 graft procedure. Some decent cheaper surgeons in Turkey but not at the same level are Acar and Cinik.

Your best option is to just get on finasteride like a man.
 

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I'm not really rich enough to be laying out $10,000+ for a 'decent' doctor, so what would you recommend in my position? Just do nothing for now? I'm not taking finasteride, I don't want to roll the dice on my dick never working again, even if the chance is really small. Since at that point you might as well just blow your brains out with a shotgun IMO.

Would minoxidil on it's own help at all?[/QUOTE]
You'll need finasteride even after getting an hair transplant. You can't escape it. So I don't understand how you're gonna find a solution to your hair loss.
 

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Here's what you might possibly get yourself into if you choose a cheap surgeon. The guy on the left is telling how the guy on the right encouraged him to get a hair transplant. The transplant costed around 1000$ and the result is yours to see. Horrible indeed.
 

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Op you're hairline is totaly fine !
it would be a bad decision to make a transplant now !
how old are you ?
 

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Not on anything yet, only realised I had a problem when lookism.net told me a couple of days ago.

Plan is to go on monidixil to try and stop the 2 hair islands thing. Failing that probably do another hair transplant. And if I run out of donor hair, well then I guess it's over boyo, gg.

Don't wanna go on finasteride. Even the slight chance of my dick no longer working isn't worth it to me.

definitely keep posting on lookism. it does wonders for your self esteem when a bunch of crazy children tell you there is something wrong with you.

was your hairline always like that or was there some change? it looks pretty normal to me.
 

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Only cucks get dick problems on finasteride. I've been on it for a year no problems. In fact when I first started it it even increased my sex drive.

You'd be looking at 5000 Eurosish with Erdogan for a 2000 graft procedure. Some decent cheaper surgeons in Turkey but not at the same level are Acar and Cinik.

Your best option is to just get on finasteride like a man.

Enough people have problems for me not to want to roll the dice. Granted, I know it's more likely I'll be fine than not, but it's not really a chance I'm prepared to take. I'll do minoxidil but finasteride isn't happening. Yeah, I know finasteride is the better treatment, but if I happen to be one of those guys who gets completely fucked up from it...honestly I'd rather just kill myself than carry on living without being able to get my dick hard again.

Interested in these guys from Turkey. Acar seems very reasonable - his price is 2000 euros which is within my budget. I've kinda been put off from India now...didn't realise this was a procedure in which sh*t could easily go wrong before.


Here's what you might possibly get yourself into if you choose a cheap surgeon. The guy on the left is telling how the guy on the right encouraged him to get a hair transplant. The transplant costed around 1000$ and the result is yours to see. Horrible indeed.

Yeah think I might go with one of the guys in Turkey now, if I get it done.


Op you're hairline is totaly fine !
it would be a bad decision to make a transplant now !
how old are you ?

I'm 26.

definitely keep posting on lookism. it does wonders for your self esteem when a bunch of crazy children tell you there is something wrong with you.

was your hairline always like that or was there some change? it looks pretty normal to me.

Hmm, well here are a few pictures from when I was 23 (so 3 and a half years ago). I think there's a change, but I've shown them to my dad and stepmother and they say they can't see any change at all (family always lie about this sh*t though to make you feel better).

No this isn't an excuse to show everyone my ex-gf, it's just I'm not a big picture taker so all my pics from that sort of age are with her. Thoughts on how my hairline developed? Obviously my hair was a bit longer there too so not exactly an apples to apples comparison - I now realise my recent buzzcut was a terrible idea.

Pictures of me in the brown jacket were taken a couple of months ago where my hair was a bit longer. The pics with the girl were taken 3.5 years ago. I think there's a big difference, but who knows, maybe it's all in my head. Lookism were pretty clear it was bad though, pretty much everyone said so.
 

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Enough people have problems for me not to want to roll the dice. Granted, I know it's more likely I'll be fine than not, but it's not really a chance I'm prepared to take. I'll do minoxidil but finasteride isn't happening. Yeah, I know finasteride is the better treatment, but if I happen to be one of those guys who gets completely fucked up from it...honestly I'd rather just kill myself than carry on living without being able to get my dick hard again.

Interested in these guys from Turkey. Acar seems very reasonable - his price is 2000 euros which is within my budget. I've kinda been put off from India now...didn't realise this was a procedure in which sh*t could easily go wrong before.



Yeah think I might go with one of the guys in Turkey now, if I get it done.




I'm 26.



Hmm, well here are a few pictures from when I was 23 (so 3 and a half years ago). I think there's a change, but I've shown them to my dad and stepmother and they say they can't see any change at all (family always lie about this sh*t though to make you feel better).

No this isn't an excuse to show everyone my ex-gf, it's just I'm not a big picture taker so all my pics from that sort of age are with her. Thoughts on how my hairline developed? Obviously my hair was a bit longer there too so not exactly an apples to apples comparison - I now realise my recent buzzcut was a terrible idea.

Pictures of me in the brown jacket were taken a couple of months ago where my hair was a bit longer. The pics with the girl were taken 3.5 years ago. I think there's a big difference, but who knows, maybe it's all in my head. Lookism were pretty clear it was bad though, pretty much everyone said so.

The thing that's funny is that when you start to lose even more hair and begin to look like you're visibly balding to the average person you WILL get on finasteride. I thought the same thing as you that I would never risk it, but you'll get to the point where either you're going to become a bald loser or you're going to take your finasteride like a man.

Longer you wait to get on finasteride, the harder this will all be. And I guarantee that if you're the type to freak over your current hairline and sit on Lookism all day you will 100% get on finasteride at some point.
 

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The thing that's funny is that when you start to lose even more hair and begin to look like you're visibly balding to the average person you WILL get on finasteride. I thought the same thing as you that I would never risk it, but you'll get to the point where either you're going to become a bald loser or you're going to take your finasteride like a man.

Longer you wait to get on finasteride, the harder this will all be. And I guarantee that if you're the type to freak over your current hairline and sit on Lookism all day you will 100% get on finasteride at some point.

This. They always end up on it eventually.
 

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The thing that's funny is that when you start to lose even more hair and begin to look like you're visibly balding to the average person you WILL get on finasteride. I thought the same thing as you that I would never risk it, but you'll get to the point where either you're going to become a bald loser or you're going to take your finasteride like a man.

Longer you wait to get on finasteride, the harder this will all be. And I guarantee that if you're the type to freak over your current hairline and sit on Lookism all day you will 100% get on finasteride at some point.

I wasn't really freaking. I made a general post on lookism about what I could do to improve my appearance. Most everyone agreed I was unattractive but said if I changed my hair I might be able to get to 'average' levels (i.e. currently 4/10, with better hair 5/10). Prior to that I'd never even considered my hair really.

Looking at my pics from age 23 compared to now (age 26) I'd say it's pretty clear I've receded significantly? Maybe I had a bit of loss at 23 too but not so noticeable as it is now. It's just it happened over a period of 3 years so I never really noticed the change until lookism pointed it out.
 
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Speak to our forum hair loss representative @WhitePolarBear who has experience in overcoming hair greed and BDD.

He's based in Brussels but has extensive interactions with clients from all over the globe. Adopts a holistic caring approach, just like the EU which is based in Brussels.

Huh? I don't get it?
 

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If you're not willing to get on finasteride then you'd be pissing away the cash used for a transplant. Minoxidl might stabilize your hair loss for a period, but definitely not like finasteride would do. I've been on finasteride for a little over a year; I get morning wood, night wood, all sorts of rock hard erections. So far taking this drug has been one of the best decisions I've made regarding my appearance. Just f*****g try it, if you get sides then drop it. You don't want to be on lookism 10 years later bitching about how retarded your hair looks because you've just got a transplanted hairline.
 

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Some people seem to have taken the drug only for a short period (i.e. a couple of months) and got rekt because of it for years and years though.

Yes I know it's the internet, and people with something to complain about are 10x more vocal than those who are happy.

Thing is even the small chance of this isn't really worth it IMO, since:

1) The upside, if no side effects happen, is I go from a 4/10 to a 5/10 (i.e. get better hair). So basically, from slightly below average to average. It's not like it's gonna be a massive jump...i.e. I'll still be pretty hard up tbh. Still gonna be a 5ft 7 framecel with bad-normal facial features, just one that isn't also balding. Pretty much everyone on lookism has said this.

2) The downside of not being able to use my dick again means that I might as well be dead.

Most threads on this forum seem to suggests monoxidil will remain effective for around 5 years. At 2000 euros for a transplant (from Acar in Turkey) that sounds like reasonably good value - 400 euros per year to have decent hair from age 26-31.

Can't I just do another transplant later if I end up getting further losses when the monoxidil fails? Like, I don't even know if I will get further losses or how long it'll take since I don't really know if there's a family history of balding. But if I do get further losses surely then it's just a case of fly back over to Turkey or wherever and get a new transplant? Tbh if I'm on lookism in 10 years bitching it's not necessarily a bad thing...if I get 10 more years decent hair from 26-36 it'll not be too bad, since it's a whole lot easier to attract women at age 36 with balding hair than it is at 26, since at 36 a lot of people are gonna have that issue.

Can someone look at the pics I posted from when I was 23 and just confirm that my hairline has receded significantly since that point (I'm 26 now, the pics when I'm 26 are the ones when I'm in the brown jacket and the ones in the OP of this thread. The pics when I was 23 are all the ones where there's a girl in the pic). Can the amount of loss from 23-26 be used as a good predictor of loss to come in the next few years or is it really just a crapshoot? If I'm bound to lose a LOT more hair in the next...say, 2 years, maybe I'll hold off on the transplant until then.
 

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honestly bro your hair look fine ; aka Norwood 2
your hair was longer in the former pic
- if you wan't to treat hairloss = only solution are finasteride/dutasteride/minoxidil
 

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How is male pattern baldness pattern in the family?

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If youre type 3 i dont see any problem in filling out the corners

Besides: worst case: you keep balding aggresively behind the implanted areas and even following hair transplant cant fix that sh*t..you can always shave it off...
 

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If you want to get a hair transplant because you are a norwood 2, I'd say you have other issues as well.
 

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Enough people have problems for me not to want to roll the dice. Granted, I know it's more likely I'll be fine than not, but it's not really a chance I'm prepared to take. I'll do minoxidil but finasteride isn't happening. Yeah, I know finasteride is the better treatment, but if I happen to be one of those guys who gets completely fucked up from it...honestly I'd rather just kill myself than carry on living without being able to get my dick hard again.

Interested in these guys from Turkey. Acar seems very reasonable - his price is 2000 euros which is within my budget. I've kinda been put off from India now...didn't realise this was a procedure in which sh*t could easily go wrong before.



Yeah think I might go with one of the guys in Turkey now, if I get it done.




I'm 26.



Hmm, well here are a few pictures from when I was 23 (so 3 and a half years ago). I think there's a change, but I've shown them to my dad and stepmother and they say they can't see any change at all (family always lie about this sh*t though to make you feel better).

No this isn't an excuse to show everyone my ex-gf, it's just I'm not a big picture taker so all my pics from that sort of age are with her. Thoughts on how my hairline developed? Obviously my hair was a bit longer there too so not exactly an apples to apples comparison - I now realise my recent buzzcut was a terrible idea.

Pictures of me in the brown jacket were taken a couple of months ago where my hair was a bit longer. The pics with the girl were taken 3.5 years ago. I think there's a big difference, but who knows, maybe it's all in my head. Lookism were pretty clear it was bad though, pretty much everyone said so.
Why do you still have pictures of you and your ex bro, move on
 
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