How bad is my hair really?

[almo181]

I was wondering about waht Norwood i am i was tihnk between 2 and 3, here are the pics:
http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00118eh5.jpg

and

http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00123yx8.jpg

i never really thought what stage i was at, i jsut figured im balding and it starting to lose it. :wink:

 

[WorldofWarcraft]

I was wondering about waht Norwood i am i was tihnk between 2 and 3, here are the pics:
http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00118eh5.jpg

and

http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00123yx8.jpg

i never really thought what stage i was at, i jsut figured im balding and it starting to lose it. :wink:

Sucks, doesn't it?

 

[almo181]

ya it kinda does, well once im done high school i might not worry so much, but what do u think i was on, with Norwood 2-3

 

[WorldofWarcraft]

ya it kinda does, well once im done high school i might not worry so much, but what do u think i was on, with Norwood 2-3

Id say a Norwood 2. You aren't even out of highschool yet and your hair is that trashed?

Get on finastride. You have great looking hair. Are you just going to let it fall out taking that saw palmetto bullshit? The research is in, and it doesn't do sh*t.

 

[almo181]

ya im 17, it took 6 months to get in to see a dermatolgist (healthcare fer ya) well the top of head isnt as bad as it looks it was just cause it was wet and the light relfected weird into thecamera (hard to take a picture of ur own head eh) well ya reigman wise:
Retin A - 0.025% nightly before minoxidil
%5 minoxidil 2X daily
nizarol (2%) every 2/3 days
nixoin daily
3grams msm
was on saw palemtto but starting finasteride right away
and multivitamin with green tea crap in it

 

[ShedMaster]

well... looks as though you are starting to thin out but the good news is that you are starting early. you understand that propecia is not for people under the age of 18 but if I were in your shoes I can't say that I would go it.

 

[Guest]

For being honest your hair looks pretty bad for a teenager. Get on treatment asap!

 

[Sean68]

youve got a good chance you can get some regrowth seeing as youre starting young. good luck.

 

[haunted-ballroom]

Its hard to judge what norwood you are. Even if your hairline is nw2, you have alot of thinning in the middle so shouldnt there be a seperate scale for that?
I mean, if you were a norwood 2 hairline, but really thin all over, it cant really be a nw2...can it?

 

[Apoc]

Buzz it bro and get on treatment. 17 and diffuse like this... not good. But you really should buzz it just so it won't be too depressing for you if the treatments don't work or you get into some serious shedding.

 

[sphlanx2006]

Your hair is thin but nothing that minoxidil along with propecia cant fix. Seriously, the thinning is very similar to mine, perhaps i was a bit more advanced when i began, and solo minoxidil gave me great regrowth. I would suggest you dont go for propecia atm, use minoxidil, nizoral and spironolactone cream. If you dont see good results add propecia. If you see good results wait a couple of years perhaps until you are 19 or something.

Dont worry, if you stick with proven treatments you will save your hair.

 

[WorldofWarcraft]

Your hair is thin but nothing that minoxidil along with propecia cant fix. Seriously, the thinning is very similar to mine, perhaps i was a bit more advanced when i began, and solo minoxidil gave me great regrowth. I would suggest you dont go for propecia atm, use minoxidil, nizoral and spironolactone cream. If you dont see good results add propecia. If you see good results wait a couple of years perhaps until you are 19 or something.

Dont worry, if you stick with proven treatments you will save your hair.

You give terrible advice.

Propecia is the only proven method to stop DHT from destroying hair follicles.

Minoxidil simply spurts regrowth to mask hairloss. If he uses minoxidil without any kind of DHT suppresant, than he will still be going through the balding process. It will just be masked.

 

[Johnny24601]

re:

I do not like the negative tone of some of the people who have replied. Here are my thoughts:
You are about a Norwood-2 with diffuse thinning. Unfortunately it appears that you will bald soon. This is simply part of your DNA and does not define you in anyway. The good news is that in 2007 there are far more options then there were in the past. At the very least you can use minoxidil and nizoral, but at 17 it could get expensive. finasteride would be far and away the most effective choice, but 17 may be too young. IMO I would get a script for finasteride (either propecia or proscar) and do a few month trial to see if there are any side effects. Be sure to get your blood work done before and after you use the meds.
Either way, I would shave your hair to a very short whiffle as that look is really "in" right now and it is the best way to hide your hairloss. If you start to use the whiffle look now, then people will not notice when your hairloss continues.
As far as effectivness......IMO minoxidil will give your hair a little extra time but before long you will be bald. finasteride MAY save your hair for years but comes with more risk.

 

[psych721027]

Your hair is thin but nothing that minoxidil along with propecia cant fix. Seriously, the thinning is very similar to mine, perhaps i was a bit more advanced when i began, and solo minoxidil gave me great regrowth. I would suggest you dont go for propecia atm, use minoxidil, nizoral and spironolactone cream. If you dont see good results add propecia. If you see good results wait a couple of years perhaps until you are 19 or something.

Dont worry, if you stick with proven treatments you will save your hair.

You give terrible advice.

Propecia is the only proven method to stop DHT from destroying hair follicles.

Minoxidil simply spurts regrowth to mask hairloss. If he uses minoxidil without any kind of DHT suppresant, than he will still be going through the balding process. It will just be masked.

You know what worldofwarcraft, go back to playing with your retard gaming buddies, your !@#$y atttitude is really getting on people's nerves. I'm really beginning to think you're on the payroll of the makers of Propecia, you push it so freaking hard. Open your mind up a bit. The guy is 17, he hasn't even stopped growing into manhood yet. And as far as proven things is concerned, I agree with sphlanx2006 and so would a lot of others that using topical spironolactone instead of Propecia for a few years until he's stopped growing, would be a much better, not to mention safer solution. And then if he decides Propecia is for him, looking at all the positives and negatives, he'll make that decision.

Now, in good form, I can just see the tirade that comes back from you. Look at your regimin, !@#$ing naturalist. To that I say, look at my regimin, it is a mix of naturals and proven methods. I'm not pushing anyone to do what I do. I'm not tellling anyone to do anything. What I am saying is, it's good to inform people, but they need to make their own decisions and come to their own conclusions. Not be bullied into someone else's decision who thinks he knows best for everyone. My mind is open, is yours? So, before you start insulting everyone's intelligence again, look at the big picture.

 

[RadioRaheem]

I agree with Psych and Sphlanx.

To add on to their points, I'd suggest getting GenHair's version of the topical 5% spironolactone Cream at http://www.genhair.com . Its been reported to not have the bad smell that's found in other versions of spironolactone cream that are sold by other sites. For his hair, applying spironolactone could be pose some issues since he has to use it in quite a few areas. He might have to trim his hair down a bit to make it easier to apply.

But, if applying the spironolactone becomes an issue, there are also other topicals like topical dutasteride (which may be safer for him to use). Revivogen is another topical that may help as well, as its for dht-inhibition. But I cant vouch for it as much as topical spironolactone or topical dutasteride.

 

[WorldofWarcraft]

You know what the biggest problem is with all these naturalist idiots who like to duke it out with me in non-related threads? They can't post a single damn scientific report that backs up their claims that the herbs and potions they take do jack sh*t to fight male pattern baldness.

Anyhow, back to the thread. Most people are done growing in height by the time they are 17. What is more important, him having a nice full thick head of hair when he goes into college or being 3 milimeters taller?

I had zero thinning when I was 17. He is 17 and already has thin areas over his head. At this rate, he could be slick bald in his late 20s. That will crush his life.

 

[psych721027]

Actually retard most men continue to grow into their early 20s. You can find that one anywhere on the net, or do you need me to find the study for you. Moron!

 

[WorldofWarcraft]

Actually retard most men continue to grow into their early 20s. You can find that one anywhere on the net, or do you need me to find the study for you. Moron!

You are just pissed cause while I am going to regrow hair with the big 3, you are busy shoveling all kinds of herbs and potions down your throat. Who knows what the side effects of those will be?

I want him to regrow his hair so he can have a joyful, confident, and outgoing college experience while you want DHT to continue to wreak havoc on his hair. At his rate, by the time five years pass and he is 22 - 23 ish, he will be slick bald.

 

[barcafan]

Anyhow, back to the thread. Most people are done growing in height by the time they are 17.

'Most' isnt good enough, and even if he did stop growing in height, hes still more than likely maturing without exhibiting it physically. I wouldnt use the finasteride untill a bit later honestly. 17 Is WAY too young, and it's not like when you hit 18 you magically stop growing either.... I'd stay off propecia untill 20 or so.

At this rate, he could be slick bald in his late 20s. That will crush his life.

Maybe. It's up to him on that one.

 

[barcafan]

I want him to regrow his hair so he can have a joyful, confident, and outgoing college experience.

Come on theres no need to dictate his life for him.