Help me choose my first 'Regime'

[thatguy22]

Hi all,

I'm turning 19 soon and despite what others have said, I'm confident that I have male pattern baldness. My original thread with pictures can be found here. Basically, my hairline is receding and it's been receding for a few years now. Unfortunately, my right side is more receded and is more thin. I know I have it because my brother who is 21 had the same receding hairline as me- his right side receded more than his left; in fact, it's almost as if his left side stopped receding and now the right side is receding by itself. I just recently noticed that he is now definitely experiencing diffuse thinning all across the top of his head.

I haven't yet noticed any thinning, but I'm shedding about 50 hairs a day and my scalp is kinda itchy. I'm making this thread to ask for an input on what regime I should get on. Obviously I need something effective against fighting a receding hairline, but I also want to protect the rest of my head from thinning, because I know it's going to start happening soon since I'm following my older brother's pattern.

Now, money is not a concern for me at all, so I'm willing to try anything. I've started using Nizoral every three days or so, and I set up an appointment with a DERM to get on Propecia. I'm going to buy liquid rogaine, even though it's not as effective on the hairline, it's better than nothing right?

So I'm definitely getting on the big three, I figured I'll get Saw Palmetto just for the hell of it. Now these are some questions I have:

1. Should I consider any 'experimental' treatments such as RU or CB? Again, money is not a concern
2. What other kinds of shampoos should I use, if any? Something else with Keto or Keto cream? Maybe some hair thickening shampoo from dove?
3. Would spironolactone be a good thing to add? if so what percent, 2% or 5%? Is it better orally or topically?
4. What kind of vitamins/supplements/diet could I perhaps attain to help strengthen my regime?
5. I'm considering adding Eucapil to my regime. It isn't available in the US, so i'll have to find it anywhere. Is it worth it/ where can i find it?
6. Any tips/tricks on when and how to apply any of the aforementioned 'treatments'?
7. Are there any concerns I should have about starting certain treatments before hair loss occurs? Like, does any of this stuff lose effectiveness over time? As it would be dumb to start using this stuff before my loss gets bad, because if it gets bad and the treatments aren't effective anymore then I'm screwed.
8. Should I apply rogaine to areas I'm not really sure have started thinning yet? I mean, I know the top of my head will start thinning soon like my bro's, so should i apply now or should i wait until I see it thinning?
9. Lastly, anything else you would add or any other advice?

I really appreciate your time in reading this and answering my questions!!!

 

[zzzzz]

your wasting your time with minoxidil. It is a hair regrowth treatment not a hair loss prevention treatment and you have nothing to regrow (you already have all your hair basically).

You are in the very earliest stages of loss obviously, and you really don't need anything except finasteride, you are wasting your time with anything else. finasteride is easily enough to stop your loss permanently and if not you can reevaluate in a year, its not like you will lose that much anyway if you are a bad responder.

 

[mr.patches]

I don't know man, your father's hairline looks like Norwood-1 and you don't look like you have male pattern baldness at all, nor does your brother. It's hard to tell from those pics.

If you are that unsure, I would suggest you to get a proper diagnose from a hair clinic just as I did. You are already looking for treatments and obsessing about it without being a 100% sure you have male pattern baldness, it could be merely what people call a "widows peak" (even some women have that) or a maturing hairline.

I reiterate, it's better to be sure. You can harm yourself pretty bad if you are not genetically predisposed to baldness at your age and start treatment. Good luck!

 

[Vlatch]

If you really want to start a treatment finasteride alone will be more than enough.

 

[thatguy22]

I don't know man, your father's hairline looks like Norwood-1 and you don't look like you have male pattern baldness at all, nor does your brother. It's hard to tell from those pics.

If you are that unsure, I would suggest you to get a proper diagnose from a hair clinic just as I did. You are already looking for treatments and obsessing about it without being a 100% sure you have male pattern baldness, it could be merely what people call a "widows peak" (even some women have that) or a maturing hairline.

I reiterate, it's better to be sure. You can harm yourself pretty bad if you are not genetically predisposed to baldness at your age and start treatment. Good luck!

Perhaps this is a better picture of my brother- notice his right side is more receded and his hair is very thin on top

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your wasting your time with minoxidil. It is a hair regrowth treatment not a hair loss prevention treatment and you have nothing to regrow (you already have all your hair basically).

You are in the very earliest stages of loss obviously, and you really don't need anything except finasteride, you are wasting your time with anything else. finasteride is easily enough to stop your loss permanently and if not you can reevaluate in a year, its not like you will lose that much anyway if you are a bad responder.

What about applying minoxidil on the hairline? I know i've lost hair there so is it possible to try and regrow it? the hair on the hairline is also pretty weak, so is there any hope that minoxidil can strengthen it or no?

 

[Notcoolanymore]

Based on the pictures you posted in your original thread, I have compiled a list of the treatments I think will help you the most:

 

[mr.patches]

Perhaps this is a better picture of my brother- notice his right side is more receded and his hair is very thin on top View attachment 27687

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You are right, tell him he needs treatment asap. I do not think your hair line has receded that much but now I noticed some redness which I had as well. Get diagnosed and start with finasteride as the other guy said, you do not need to fill anything on top but you'll prevent further recession.

 

[SayifDoit]

Your hairline may just be maturing? I don't know.
I would advise getting on Propecia and nothing else, you may do more harm than good.

Dude when you were young, holy crap that's a strong hairline, like insanely low.
I think that's the reason most of the people on here don't see any hairloss or recession because your hairline was just strong like.
You see some people when they start receding you can see a sharp decline in their hairline and you clearly the recession usually because their forehead is so big and their hairline flippin doesn't start half-way down their forehead hah.
Look let me show a strong hairline or what some people call a NW0:


Stevey G hairline is gives me a head ache, take him a 100 years to go bald lmao.
Honestly but you see how low it is? he could loose several inches on his forehead and he would still look like a NW1.

What's up with your dad then, he has perfect hairline with like zero recession? where you getting these early balding genes from?

 

[thatguy22]

Based on the pictures you posted in your original thread, I have compiled a list of the treatments I think will help you the most:

... Trust me, I know I have male pattern baldness, it took me a while to get past the denial stage and now I'm here so I would like to be proactive and start treatments. idk if you saw my reply with the pic of my older brother, but he is balding and i'm following in his path.

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Your hairline may just be maturing? I don't know.
I would advise getting on Propecia and nothing else, you may do more harm than good.

Dude when you were young, holy crap that's a strong hairline, like insanely low.
I think that's the reason most of the people on here don't see any hairloss or recession because your hairline was just strong like.
You see some people when they start receding you can see a sharp decline in their hairline and you clearly the recession usually because their forehead is so big and their hairline flippin doesn't start half-way down their forehead hah.
Look let me show a strong hairline or what some people call a NW0:
View attachment 27688
View attachment 27689
Stevey G hairline is gives me a head ache, take him a 100 years to go bald lmao.
Honestly but you see how low it is? he could loose several inches on his forehead and he would still look like a NW1.

What's up with your dad then, he has perfect hairline with like zero recession? where you getting these early balding genes from?

Yeah my dad's hairline is like NW0. And that's exactly what I'm wondering! My dad and his dad have full hair, my mom's dad has full hair. Two of my mom's three brothers have slight balding in their 40s and 50s but thats it.. Like is it even possible for me to have this kind of recession this early?

 

[SayifDoit]

You're definitely are unlucky, so ****ing weird and honestly depressing how you can be balding at such an excruciatingly young age. Where is your dad has just zero hair-loss and a completely perfect hairline.
Though I do know a guy who literally just turned 20 and is practically bald, where is you look at his dad who is rocking a NW1? Maybe a NW2...in his 50's. Plus the guy is much shorter than his dad, so he obviously just got the short-end of the stick. But who cares at the end of the day, you are who you are. But there are things you can do to change who you are!!!

God I feel like I'm hating or belittling the guy, nothing wrong with him. ****.

 

[thatguy22]

You're definitely are unlucky, so ****ing weird and honestly depressing how you can be balding at such an excruciatingly young age. Where is your dad has just zero hair-loss and a completely perfect hairline.
Though I do know a guy who literally just turned 20 and is practically bald, where is you look at his dad who is rocking a NW1? Maybe a NW2...in his 50's. Plus the guy is much shorter than his dad, so he obviously just got the short-end of the stick. But who cares at the end of the day, you are who you are. But there are things you can do to change who you are!!!

God I feel like I'm hating or belittling the guy, nothing wrong with him. ****.

Yeah i don't understand this at all. I just hope I can get on a good regime and respond well so I don't have to worry about it as much as i have been these past few weeks

 

[smyth01]

Unfortunately (and fortunately) hair loss can miss many generations and make denial a big problem.

 

[thatguy22]

Unfortunately (and fortunately) hair loss can miss many generations and make denial a big problem.

Makes sense in my case lol, any recommendations for treatment?

 

[thatguy22]

*bump* anyone else?

 

[smyth01]

Makes sense in my case lol, any recommendations for treatment?

I would get on the big 3. If you have concerns about finasteride then start with a low dose, might be all you need from what you have said. Ive gone right down to 0.25mg EOD with positive effects on hair.
No sides from any dose I have taken. Its the only true way to know you are combating hairloss. IMO its best to stay away from research chems atm as the market is full of scams/inconsistency/dangers.

 

[thatguy22]

I would get on the big 3. If you have concerns about finasteride then start with a low dose, might be all you need from what you have said. Ive gone right down to 0.25mg EOD with positive effects on hair.
No sides from any dose I have taken. Its the only true way to know you are combating hairloss. IMO its best to stay away from research chems atm as the market is full of scams/inconsistency/dangers.

Thanks I appreciate it. do you recommend using the foam or liquid? should i only apply it where I'm experiencing loss? Also, how frequently should I use nizoral? thanks

 

[smyth01]

Thanks I appreciate it. do you recommend using the foam or liquid? should i only apply it where I'm experiencing loss? Also, how frequently should I use nizoral? thanks

I'd always recommend the liquid as its always had better results on me. Apply it to affected areas and about 1 inch around them. The foam is good as a back up incase you get annoyed with the greasy look of the liquid.
If you can use the nizoral everyday that would be best, leaving it on for 10 minutes a time. Its believed you can get the same effect from 2x week use, so its your call on that. Its ketoconazole you want, so not specifically
nizoral. There are loads of different brands of different prices and quality (higher quality meaning less scalp irritation). Ive always stuck with a cheap one called ketopine from ebay, a 2% formula.

 

[thatguy22]

I'd always recommend the liquid as its always had better results on me. Apply it to affected areas and about 1 inch around them. The foam is good as a back up incase you get annoyed with the greasy look of the liquid.
If you can use the nizoral everyday that would be best, leaving it on for 10 minutes a time. Its believed you can get the same effect from 2x week use, so its your call on that. Its ketoconazole you want, so not specifically
nizoral. There are loads of different brands of different prices and quality (higher quality meaning less scalp irritation). Ive always stuck with a cheap one called ketopine from ebay, a 2% formula.

I've been using it every few days and it's been drying out my hair. is there any good shampoo i should use to help with this? I'm confused too because people said nizoral should only be a few times a week at most

 

[thatguy22]

*bump* anyone?