Have weight training effected your hairloss?

[SoThatsLife]

I have seen it have been discussed a little on this forum. But I wonder.

Have your training effected your hairloss? We all know cardio training is good for you, but weight training could push up your testo levels like 40%! And it would be likely to effect your hairloss(not scientifically proven). And that it would effect your hairloss if you are in the risk of getting genetic hairloss.

So I wonder.

1) How long after you started your weight training regime did your hairloss start?
2) What age?
3) When did the others in your family start balding? Did your hairloss "beat" the rest of the family balding age?
4) Did it start after you stopped your weight training regime or if you didnt exercise at all?
5) Did it slow down the hairloss when you stopped your weight training and switched to cardio or so?

Its more like a statistic question, but it would be nice if people wrote a little about their experience so maybe we could see if it was some red line in the theory?!

 

[CCS]

weight training has had now effect on my hair loss. it has only compensated for it. Would you actually stop exercising just because of hair? FYI, cardio does NOT lower testosterone. Extensive cardio does lower testosterone in people who are not used to it. But as long as you do your ideal workout length/intensity, you will get a testosterone spike with any exercise.

 

[vipergts]

It's the opposite for me and my brother (my workout partner). I have been bodybuilding since 1995 and I *do* feel that when I am lifting heavy I shed significantly more than when I am not. During my cutting phase I usually shed very little but during bulking I lose tons of hair due to a very testosterone boosting diet.

Of course you have to have the male pattern baldness gene for the above to happen. There are thousands of pro bodybuilders who are juiced up and have perfect NW1 hair - Jay Cutler for instance. Most of these guys just don't have the male pattern baldness gene.

Viper

 

[CCS]

then put topical white curcumin on your head to inhibit more DHT production. Or use spironolactone. It's only during your bulking phase, right?

 

[Chemical J]

I workout everyday, I had hairloss before working out, and no it hasn't changed anything however I'm just an NW2

 

[Maxpwr]

It's the opposite for me and my brother (my workout partner). I have been bodybuilding since 1995 and I *do* feel that when I am lifting heavy I shed significantly more than when I am not. During my cutting phase I usually shed very little but during bulking I lose tons of hair due to a very testosterone boosting diet.

Of course you have to have the male pattern baldness gene for the above to happen. There are thousands of pro bodybuilders who are juiced up and have perfect NW1 hair - Jay Cutler for instance. Most of these guys just don't have the male pattern baldness gene.

Viper

I wonder how many of the elite pros like Jay Cutler and Gunter actually treat their hair or if they wear hairpieces etc. Jay wouldn't of course - there's no faking that head of hair! They are in an industry where they are expected to look their best and their success relies on it. Page through a Muscle & Fitness or Flex magazine and you won't normally see single balding head. I'd expect most would have hair transplant's or hairpieces, as their diets and training regimes probably would see more hair lost than gained on treatments only.

 

[metalheaddude]

Im hardcore into lifting weights, ive taken, creatine, glutamine, fat burners, whey protein and and whole bunch of other supplements. Ive been on very strict calorie controlled diets. Ive done alot of cutting and bulking both gaining and losing large amounts of weight in a short time frame. Ive done massive amounts cardio both low intensity and high intensity (HIIT) training techniques. Ive trained for 6 days a week 3-4 months at a time, doing extreme lifting, squats, dead lifts, heavy bench presses.. EVERYTHING! and lots of periods in between of poor diet and no exercise. Ive done it all! And in this regard and I can only speak of my personal experience of losing hair and lifting weights, coz i have struggled with it for a long time on decideing whether its been positive or a negative experience for me. And at certain times in the past I felt it has made me lose hair and other times ive thought its actually help mainting my hair through being healthy. I dont want to drag this on forever but this is my opinion after 5-6 years of bodybuilding.

1. Creatine definately increses hairloss

2. Glutamine is safe in small doses ie: mixed within the whey protein, but in large doeses it increases hairloss in my opinion.

3. Whey protein on its own is perfectly safe and does not effect hairloss. I have 3 serves a day.

4. I think squats increase hairloss. This is what i noticed when i was doing intense squats (so much that i could barely walk after, it works the whole body).

5. Besides squats every other weight lifting excercise is fine, and doesnt cause hairloss. Why would anyone wanna work on their legs anyway? I works on my upper body almost exclusively. I do some calve work too.

6. Lifting weights in general is healthy for your hair and definetly does not increase hairloss.

7. Long cadio sessions like marthon running anything over 7 miles a day causes your hair thin in diffuse manner. To much stress hormone is realeased. Stick to under an hour cardio sessions. Other than that its good for ur hair and skin.

8. Multi vitamins with zinc everyday cause more hairloss. You dont need them everyday. Only take a half everyday or 1 every second day is quite enough.

9. Eating a diet to low in fat increases hairloss, you need to have at least 40grams of fat a day for ur hair to remain healthy.

10. Extremelly low calorie diets like crash diets like under 1200 calories a day also causes hairloss.


Ok thats all i can think of now. This is my own personal experience after years of lifting and dieting. So dont can me if you disagree with me. thanks

 

[s.a.f]

I think many of these pro's such as Jay are just lucky that they dont have the genetics for m.p.b even with their steroid intake. Ronnie must be nw7 but he bic's his head.
I once saw a website outing celebrity hairpiece wearers and there were tons of bodybuilders on there, although I had'nt heard of most of them so they were'nt Mr Olympia winners.

 

[Maxpwr]

I think many of these pro's such as Jay are just lucky that they dont have the genetics for m.p.b even with their steroid intake. Ronnie must be nw7 but he bic's his head.
I once saw a website outing celebrity hairpiece wearers and there were tons of bodybuilders on there, although I had'nt heard of most of them so they were'nt Mr Olympia winners.

You're not serious about the steroid thing are ya?? These guys are the elites... the bodybuilders who do it properly, with hardcore training and extreme diet manipulation, not steroids... That's why I'm interested in knowing what their hair loss situations are. We've established that a steroid user can almost expect increased hair loss from prolonged use... anyone who uses it will have to take that into account.

 

[SoThatsLife]

I have friend that is a certified PT(and weight lifter) and she says almost all elite bodybuilders take supplement (also stereoid) in contact with their doctor. Its not like they just take some random steroid and use it. They balance it all so they dont get the heavy sides.

But thats just one opinion.

 

[Maxpwr]

To be eligible for the big bodybuilding comps you cannot be a steroid user... That's the whole point. Anyone can get huge using steroids and illegal enhancers, but the pro bodybuilders are treated like any other elite sportsman (which is what they are) and are subject to the same stringent drug prohibition as pro athletes in football, baseball etc.

The ones who are on steroids are the "pro" wrestlers, WWF and that sort of thing - which isn't even a sport anyway. I'd hate to class them in the same category as IFBB pros. It's a common misconception that our IFBB contestants are steroid users, because of their massive size.... But I assure you they have built that muscle without illegal enhancers.

 

[s.a.f]

To be eligible for the big bodybuilding comps you cannot be a steroid user... That's the whole point. Anyone can get huge using steroids and illegal enhancers, but the pro bodybuilders are treated like any other elite sportsman (which is what they are) and are subject to the same stringent drug prohibition as pro athletes in football, baseball etc.

WHAAAT !! :freaked: I think that you are somewhat misinformed my freind.
Pro bodybuilding without steroids is like Miss universe without make up. You really think that the these guys who are about 30lbs heavier than Arnie in his prime (BTW Arnie was on steroids too) are natural?. Since when have they been testing for drugs on Mr Olympia competitors? They are not subject to the same strict testing as other sports, thats why there are natural shows that do test and they always state this. The big world class contests however are not tested. Plenty of the guys from the 70's, 80's and 90's era have admitted that they were on juice and state that the current guys on the pro circuit today are going to even further extremes.

 

[hair today gone tomorrow]

To be eligible for the big bodybuilding comps you cannot be a steroid user... That's the whole point. Anyone can get huge using steroids and illegal enhancers, but the pro bodybuilders are treated like any other elite sportsman (which is what they are) and are subject to the same stringent drug prohibition as pro athletes in football, baseball etc.

The ones who are on steroids are the "pro" wrestlers, WWF and that sort of thing - which isn't even a sport anyway. I'd hate to class them in the same category as IFBB pros. It's a common misconception that our IFBB contestants are steroid users, because of their massive size.... But I assure you they have built that muscle without illegal enhancers.

you have NO IDEA what you are talking about at all.....i cannot believe you actually think ronnie coleman is 100% natural... :uglylol:

 

[Maxpwr]

...okay okay OKAY!!! :blush: :blush: :blush: I have done a quick bit of research and have returned.... Please accept my most humble apologies :blush: :blush: :blush:

I honestly believed that pro bodybuilding was real and drug free... That is a HUGE let-down for me actually - I have read and re-read every page of my some 36 copies of M&F while I was fanatical about my exercise and sh*t... I used to look up to these guys as gods... but in a quick 5 minutes I have been shut down and shown the light. D'oh! I suppose there would never be any mention of it in the commercial magazines...

Was Arnie really on 'roids too? uke: I feel sick...

I suppose Joe Weider was just a f**king drug peddler too (...pfft, trainer of champions :jackit: )

I have gotten so much good advice and good motivation from reading these magazines... never actually became interested in the competition side of it... but praised these guys all the same. Oh well, lucky I have new heroes nowadays anyway - I'd be devastated to find this out during my 3-4 years of hardcore lifting. *lol*

...well, not happy all the same. Maybe I just wanted to think that... and in doing that became totally ignorant to the reality of it.

 

[hair today gone tomorrow]

...okay okay OKAY!!! :blush: :blush: :blush: I have done a quick bit of research and have returned.... Please accept my most humble apologies :blush: :blush: :blush:

I honestly believed that pro bodybuilding was real and drug free... That is a HUGE let-down for me actually - I have read and re-read every page of my some 36 copies of M&F while I was fanatical about my exercise and sh*t... I used to look up to these guys as gods... but in a quick 5 minutes I have been shut down and shown the light. D'oh! I suppose there would never be any mention of it in the commercial magazines...

Was Arnie really on 'roids too? uke: I feel sick...

I suppose Joe Weider was just a f**king drug peddler too (...pfft, trainer of champions :jackit: )

I have gotten so much good advice and good motivation from reading these magazines... never actually became interested in the competition side of it... but praised these guys all the same. Oh well, lucky I have new heroes nowadays anyway - I'd be devastated to find this out during my 3-4 years of hardcore lifting. *lol*

...well, not happy all the same. Maybe I just wanted to think that... and in doing that became totally ignorant to the reality of it.

yes...arnie was on roids...not nearly the sh*t that these guys are on. All you have to do is compared ronnie to arnold and see the huge difference...just look at ronnies legs compared to arnolds legs!!...isnt it painfully obvious that ronnie is on some serious sh*t!!....you couldnt have honestly felt that ronnie worked harder than arnold?

well at least now you know

 

[Maxpwr]

yes...arnie was on roids...not nearly the $#iT that these guys are on. All you have to do is compared ronnie to arnold and see the huge difference...just look at ronnies legs compared to arnolds legs!!...isnt it painfully obvious that ronnie is on some serious $#iT!!....you couldnt have honestly felt that ronnie worked harder than arnold?

well at least now you know

I thought the difference between the elites then and the elites now was the increase in knowledge regarding training techniques, training frequency, training intensity, rest & recovery periods, diet manipulation, carb loading, supplementation, gaining / dieting phases, AND the fact that the bodybuilders nowadays have more money and time to devote to their sport...

I suppose they would've had an impact all the same


...but all the difference really was, was the quality of steroids then and now.

 

[hair today gone tomorrow]

...but all the difference really was, was the quality of steroids then and now.

:agree: bingo

all that other stuff is nice...but the difference in physiques is still way to dramatic...and besides arnie KNEW a lot. a lot of his advice and principles are used today (im sure youve seen his "encyclopedia") and trust me no one was more devoted than he was.

 

[RaginDemon]

I have been working out for a long time and I know that as fact that there is only so much one can do without roid.

 

[SoThatsLife]

Like Ragin said..you could really build a nice body without steroid..but the whole thing about maximizing as a sickness as its medical called..is to get really huge and be the biggest..you have to have steroids..not only to get big..but to handle the pain and endurance of a hard workout..because when you push you body to the max, the body collapse if you dont put in the right stuff..and to be honest..its hard to eat all the right stuff..so I guess bodybuilders find much more easy to get some injections or pills to be on top..for my self it was a big freedom just to drop from 400grams of chicken to some spoons of proteinshake

buts thats the past..I have started to jog instead :tongue:

 

[RaginDemon]

girls actually dont like guys THAT big...