Hi all, new here. 42 years old, thinning quite a bit for 5 or so years. Not bald, but quite thin all through the male pattern baldness area. My wife got me some Nisim shampoo and extract to use about a month ago. Well, Ive lost much more hair since using it. Especially hairline area! If I switch now to Nizoral and minoxidil, will I be able to reverse what has been done? Or at least stop the shed? Or will it make it worse??!! Not sure if finasteride is something I want to do yet, but if I have to, I have to. Im on a very tight budget, so I want to buy what works. I wish I found this site years ago! Thanks for any input
Have I done lasting damage??
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rcom440
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lil_thin said:
Shed is a good sign, It means that the treatment is working and probably you will get a good regrow. Now, If I were you I would stick with Nizoral instead of Nisim shampoo. If you want to add minoxidil you will lose a little bit of hair at the beginning but then most likely you will get it back + more.
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Why so shy of finasteride?
I dont see anything in Nism shampoo that will cause a shed. Your shed is probably from DHT damage not from anything you are using for a month.
I would jump on the big 3. If you would of started finasteride 5 years ago you would not need rogain and you would not of lost so much. It is harder to grow hair than to prevent hair loss, now you have an uphill climb. You should see more hair growth and stop the loss with the big 3. I would stabilize first with finasteride and Nazorl for the first 8 months or year and then if you want more growth jump on Rogain .
I got my first bout of hair loss at 45. Just out of the blue no warnings and hair loss was not on my radar as I always had thick hair. But it lasted a year before I woke up and caught it before it did even more damage. Have not lost any since jumping on my regime. Life is back to normal.
I dont see anything in Nism shampoo that will cause a shed. Your shed is probably from DHT damage not from anything you are using for a month.
I would jump on the big 3. If you would of started finasteride 5 years ago you would not need rogain and you would not of lost so much. It is harder to grow hair than to prevent hair loss, now you have an uphill climb. You should see more hair growth and stop the loss with the big 3. I would stabilize first with finasteride and Nazorl for the first 8 months or year and then if you want more growth jump on Rogain .
I got my first bout of hair loss at 45. Just out of the blue no warnings and hair loss was not on my radar as I always had thick hair. But it lasted a year before I woke up and caught it before it did even more damage. Have not lost any since jumping on my regime. Life is back to normal.
i think you should try topical products first. i really think that finasteride is dangerous, but everyone seems to tell everyone to get on it straight away.
I admit, it did halt my hairloss but after gaining side effects, i read up on it alot more and was shocked at some hurrendous storys i read. I wish i'd researched it more before, wish i never touched it.
I'm sure your wife would prefer you being bald than not being able to perform!
But then again, alot of people cope fine with it so it's your choice, just a gamble i guess.
And for all the people going bald in your 40's, u don't know how luky you are. i've been battling since i was 20, i'm 23 now and am on the verge of taking a razor to it cos it's got that bad.
Thats why i think you shouldnt touch finasteride, its not worth the risk, I would do anything to know i could keep my hair to my 30's, but i wouldn't touch finasteride again.
I admit, it did halt my hairloss but after gaining side effects, i read up on it alot more and was shocked at some hurrendous storys i read. I wish i'd researched it more before, wish i never touched it.
I'm sure your wife would prefer you being bald than not being able to perform!
But then again, alot of people cope fine with it so it's your choice, just a gamble i guess.
And for all the people going bald in your 40's, u don't know how luky you are. i've been battling since i was 20, i'm 23 now and am on the verge of taking a razor to it cos it's got that bad.
Thats why i think you shouldnt touch finasteride, its not worth the risk, I would do anything to know i could keep my hair to my 30's, but i wouldn't touch finasteride again.
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Fine try some topicals.
You are suggesting not to even TRY the only thing FDA approved to prevent hair loss, finasteride. Interesting, especially in light of the fact he has not even tried it, and especially in light of the fact that the finasteride causes no permanent damage. It is interesting that all these "horrendous stories"never produced any conclusive outcome from the FD A or the courts or Merck. Oh that's right, the FD A are secretly covering it up with the communist aliens form outer space, I forgot.
If he don't like finasteride, he gets off it, simple. Considering the H1N1 vac will actually kill some people this year, show me a proper unbiased scientific study that shows not a theory but proof of a risk of permanent damage that has actually taken place just for trying finasteride then I will be warning people too.
You are suggesting not to even TRY the only thing FDA approved to prevent hair loss, finasteride. Interesting, especially in light of the fact he has not even tried it, and especially in light of the fact that the finasteride causes no permanent damage. It is interesting that all these "horrendous stories"never produced any conclusive outcome from the FD A or the courts or Merck. Oh that's right, the FD A are secretly covering it up with the communist aliens form outer space, I forgot.
If he don't like finasteride, he gets off it, simple. Considering the H1N1 vac will actually kill some people this year, show me a proper unbiased scientific study that shows not a theory but proof of a risk of permanent damage that has actually taken place just for trying finasteride then I will be warning people too.
Thanks so much for your replies and help! I guess I have some research to do. I have not heard of terrible side effects of finasteride. I also have not looked into it all that much until I found this site! I am using the topicals minoxidil, nism, and nizoral 1% like I said with a major shed... Just hoping in a couple months, Ill show some results? Ill post some pics soon and maybe someone could point me in the right direction? Thanks again all
davestep said:
where is the gamble?, take it, if you get sides you cant cope with urrrm dont take it again?. Its out of ur system v fast, thats why u have to take it every day.
stop talking people out of a FDA tested drug just because you read somewhere that its "dangerous". I bet you £100 i could find a online topic about apples being dangerous.
finasteride is the best chance hes got of saving his hair, then minoxidil, then nizoral, but finasteride will be vital for him if hes going to fight this.
personally finasteride saved my hair, thank u finasteride.
lil_thin said:
topicals wont solve the route problem of male pattern baldness. I went on finasteride for 8months before i started using minoxidil, this stabilised my hair preparing me for minoxidil. never shed and only had regrowth.
give it a try, if ur uncomfortable with it, go and see ur doctor, he will prescribe you propecia or proscar, (which is finasteride) and give you a non internet rundown of the risks.
whatever you do dont look online for finasteride stories, the truth is, some do get sides, but its a very small %, VERY small. the vast majority will blame everything they had from colds to cancer on finasteride, its the human way.
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Yes RU is reported here to be powerful so far, not very easy nor is it convent to use this route, but if you dead set against using finasteride then I would be trying the RU route for sure. But I just saw the other day even EL dutasteride is listing finasteride back once again as part of his topical RU + Fluridil regime.
lil_thin just remember people still go bald on just MIN alone because it is a growth stimulant for hair that is still able to wake up, it will not prevent permanent loss so eventually what happens is that MIN runs out of steam because nothing was protecting you hair from DHT except your Nizoral does to some extent but you are choosing a half *** attack ageist a powerful enemy, DHT. You are sending in the infantry without air support! They don't call it the big 3 for nothing. Good luck.
lil_thin just remember people still go bald on just MIN alone because it is a growth stimulant for hair that is still able to wake up, it will not prevent permanent loss so eventually what happens is that MIN runs out of steam because nothing was protecting you hair from DHT except your Nizoral does to some extent but you are choosing a half *** attack ageist a powerful enemy, DHT. You are sending in the infantry without air support! They don't call it the big 3 for nothing. Good luck.
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rcom440
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topicals wont solve the route problem of male pattern baldness. [/quote]
Of course they will.
RU + Fluridil + spironolactone[/quote]
What is RU. Sorry I've been off these boards for awhile.... and where can I get it[/quote]
RU - experimental drug (topical) that is very powerful DHT blacker / inhibitor. Combined with Fluridil and spironolactone in my opinion can give way better results than finasteride or dutasteride.
RU is quite expensive and you can get it only overseas (China).
Of course they will.
RU + Fluridil + spironolactone[/quote]
What is RU. Sorry I've been off these boards for awhile.... and where can I get it[/quote]
RU - experimental drug (topical) that is very powerful DHT blacker / inhibitor. Combined with Fluridil and spironolactone in my opinion can give way better results than finasteride or dutasteride.
RU is quite expensive and you can get it only overseas (China).