Has anyone here gotten PRP with Adipose Stem Cells?

[Raccooner]

Have you done PRP with Adipose Stem Cells for your hair? So if yes, what kind of specialist administered it? How many treatments did you get over what period of time? Are you satisfied with the results? Did it improve, not change or make your hair situation worse? How long did your results last? How did you decide on the specialist to use? Also what type of hair loss do you have and what do you believe caused it? How long have you had your hair loss situation and what has been the most effective solution you've found so far to deal with your type(s) of alopecia (if any)?

 

[Diffused_confidence]

Don't do it. It's a scam.

 

[Raccooner]

Don't do it. It's a scam.

You tell me, "Don't do it. It's a scam." Now based on your statement I'm wondering if you've had this procedure? Everyone has their own hair loss situation. My dermatologist voluntarily told me based on my circumstances that I should try PRP, though he said PRP alone, not with the stem cells. He told me "do it before you get to look like me" (he's a Norwood 6 or 7). He in fact called PRP "the gold standard" for dealing with hair loss. The reason it might not be a scam in my circumstance is if it can keep the follicles from shrinking further and make them thicker hopefully, they will survive, so that when a newer technology comes along there is more to work with. I am hoping that within some years the issues with hair cloning technology such as pigmentation, cycling, structure, will be worked out so this issue will be behind us (pun not intended). The next step beyond would be where we could have a way to determine aspects like hair thickness and length. I want long thick Rapunzel hair, but that's me, I'm not your typical man.

 

[Diffused_confidence]

You tell me, "Don't do it. It's a scam." Now based on your statement I'm wondering if you've had this procedure? Everyone has their own hair loss situation. My dermatologist voluntarily told me based on my circumstances that I should try PRP, though he said PRP alone, not with the stem cells. He told me "do it before you get to look like me" (he's a Norwood 6 or 7). He in fact called PRP "the gold standard" for dealing with hair loss. The reason it might not be a scam in my circumstance is if it can keep the follicles from shrinking further and make them thicker hopefully, they will survive, so that when a newer technology comes along there is more to work with. I am hoping that within some years the issues with hair cloning technology such as pigmentation, cycling, structure, will be worked out so this issue will be behind us (pun not intended). The next step beyond would be where we could have a way to determine aspects like hair thickness and length. I want long thick Rapunzel hair, but that's me, I'm not your typical man.

Maybe I was a little harsh with scam. Let me rephrase that. The procedure is not FDA approved. It's in the same category as LLLT. Both are FDA cleared but that just means the procedure won't have dangerous side effects. It doesn't mean that there is evidence that it works. PRP sessions are expensive from what I heard and people get them done monthly. Just like those 1500 dollar laser helmets people buy. It's a lot of money for a procedure that isn't proven to help.

Also, take your information from a dermatologist with a grain of salt. I asked a real hair transplant surgeon about LLLT, he said it's a scam. I didn't ask about PRP but if it actually worked then why wouldn't the FDA give it pre-market Approved status instead of FDA Cleared? There are actually two approval processes for the fda. One is PMA, which is similar to the approval process for drugs. Very stringent and requires evidence of effectiveness for its intended use and safety. FDA cleared means it is safe and as effective as another device that is also not PMA. The process is not as stringent.

PRP is unproven and expensive. Which is why I believe it is a scam.

There are hundreds of hair loss products out there that don't do anything, but men know how awful losing their hair is so they desperately try it.

 

[OfficialWater]

PRP is a scam, much more effective and cheaper options out there.

 

[Raccooner]

Well regardless I had the adipose/nanofat stem cell and platelet rich plasma transfer procedure done two days ago. Expensive it was indeed, US $8,000. It was quite unpleasant, especially getting the mini-liposuction done. I found a top dermatologist to do it for me. The stem cells really are supposed to make a difference. Someone on this forum posted a noticeable improvement to his hair but only did the stem cells. The platelet rich plasma has growth factors as well. I hope I notice a positive change within six months. The dermatologist told me she has done this procedure on 100 people roughly over two years since she started doing it and maybe about 2 men got no results from the procedure. Chances are I should respond, hopefully. If this fails there is a procedure where I can get platelet rich plasma with progesterone. Beyond this my only option is hair multiplication, assuming it ever gets the bugs worked out and goes onto the market. I won't do a hair transplant.

 

[Raccooner]

Maybe I was a little harsh with scam. Let me rephrase that. The procedure is not FDA approved. It's in the same category as LLLT. Both are FDA cleared but that just means the procedure won't have dangerous side effects. It doesn't mean that there is evidence that it works. PRP sessions are expensive from what I heard and people get them done monthly. Just like those 1500 dollar laser helmets people buy. It's a lot of money for a procedure that isn't proven to help.

Also, take your information from a dermatologist with a grain of salt. I asked a real hair transplant surgeon about LLLT, he said it's a scam. I didn't ask about PRP but if it actually worked then why wouldn't the FDA give it pre-market Approved status instead of FDA Cleared? There are actually two approval processes for the fda. One is PMA, which is similar to the approval process for drugs. Very stringent and requires evidence of effectiveness for its intended use and safety. FDA cleared means it is safe and as effective as another device that is also not PMA. The process is not as stringent.

PRP is unproven and expensive. Which is why I believe it is a scam.

There are hundreds of hair loss products out there that don't do anything, but men know how awful losing their hair is so they desperately try it.

Why do you have such confidence in the FDA?

 

[edh38]

Why do you have such confidence in the FDA?

Do you have any results? Considering doing nanofat (for 900USD tho in EE).

 

[Raccooner]

Do you have any results? Considering doing nanofat (for 900USD tho in EE).

Just now I am noticing my hair is looking thicker and the bald spots are becoming less visible. It is a matter of time. I did PRP/adipose stem cells on August 17th, 2021, took Nutrafol Men for 3 months, did low level laser therapy for 2 months and have been taking a variety of supplements long before that. I am seeing progress and it is helping me relax finally, which will really boost the health of my hair now. I was having a lot of hair fall before and breakouts on my scalp due to stress over my bad hair. My family tells me they're seeing less gray hair too on me. I wear my hair long, in a ponytail. I can't wait for it to thicken up come the summer and hopefully it will grow longer. I'd love hair I can sit on, but that's a stretch. I doubt being a male at 42 that this is likely. I am possibly seeing the temples looking perhaps better but still have the male "M" shaped recession there. I might try to microneedle the area with a 1.5 mm derma pen, hopefully to purchase in the coming months. On trichoscopy the hairs are still alive in my temples but severely miniaturized. If I can get some blood flow to the area, maybe with luck some vellus hairs will appear and can get a female or youthful hairline back and then work towards getting terminal hairs. Instead of Finasteride or Dutasteride, I am taking reishi mushroom to combat DHT and am scalp massaging.

 

[Raccooner]

Do you have any results? Considering doing nanofat (for 900USD tho in EE).

What is "EE"? Nanofat costs closer to $9000 USD where I am, not $900. If you can get it for $900, that's an incredible deal, assuming you're using a good practitioner. I paid $8000 USD for mine but have unlimited follow ups to evaluate my hair growing progress. Every three months I come in.

 

[edh38]

What is "EE"? Nanofat costs closer to $9000 USD where I am, not $900. If you can get it for $900, that's an incredible deal, assuming you're using a good practitioner. I paid $8000 USD for mine but have unlimited follow ups to evaluate my hair growing progress. Every three months I come in.

Eastern Europe, in Western Europe it's about 4.5k USD...

BTW I can also recommend non-ablative ER-Yag laser treatment (google "er-yag hairestart").
Yea I guess when one is seeing progress that's an ease of mind, nice for you!!

 

[User707]

Hi there. I'm new on here. Just wondering is anyone here has tried IPRF which is the latest version of PRP. With PRP it is difficult make and lot of clinics get the procedure wrong which why I think some people don't get results. IPRF similiar to PRP is a very simple procedure to make and has 5x the concentration of PRP. I just did my first session.