I'm confused, Replicel's procedure doesn't seem like it is actually in the "hair cloning/multiplication" field at all. It seem similar to what HairClone is doing in the UK, where DP cells are cultivated with stem cells and injected back into the scalp to supplement existing follicles DP cell base and reverse miniaturization of existing hair.It sounds like it since they compare it to a hair transplant and say that this procedure will take half as long. If they are just culturing DP cells and injecting them like Replicel then it shouldn't take even that long to do the procedure. However, all they mention is DP cells which wouldn't form new hairs by themselves. Stemson is also using keratinocytes and including the different cell types in a scaffold to approximate the layers of the hair matrix over the DP. The size of the hair shaft is determined by the size of the DP, but the Matrix is what produces the hair shaft. If all you do is implant DP cells then where is the hair shaft going to come from? All Replicel's DP injections do migrate to an existing DP to enlarge it so that the keratinocytes begin producing thicker and longer hair shafts again. The efficacy of that seems to be limited, and it certainly doesn't produce new hairs like Stemson does. Considering the cost of Stemson's procedure and the fact that they only mentioned DP cells, I'm leaning towards their procedure being more like Replicel's than Stemson's.
Exactly. Replicel at one time promised new hair too. I'm skeptical that they are actually going to provide new hair. If DP cells are all that they are using then they won't.I'm confused, Replicel's procedure doesn't seem like it is actually in the "hair cloning/multiplication" field at all. It seem similar to what HairClone is doing in the UK, where DP cells are cultivated with stem cells and injected back into the scalp to supplement existing follicles DP cell base and reverse miniaturization of existing hair.
This procedure is promising new hair.
Got it. Either way, another thing to keep an eye on.Exactly. Replicel at one time promised new hair too. I'm skeptical that they are actually going to provide new hair. If DP cells are all that they are using then they won't.
Got it. Either way, another thing to keep an eye on.
I would instantly put more stock into this company then Replicel though, they're tiny.
Yeah, and depending on the level of pharmacological intervention required that's defiantly the cleaner route. Even with unlimited follicles, surgical replacement outcomes are still going to vary heavily depending on the skill of the doctor preforming the placement.At this point I'd put more stock in Bargain Bob's Hairloss Cures than in Replicel. Either way this could be worthwhile. We don't actually need new hairs, we just need to make the ones we have function again. Theoretically that could be done with DP cells, it just hasn't been figured out yet. Maybe they came up with a way to make them proliferate after injection, or to at least keep more of them alive.
It's a new company doing it so more competition, which is great.This isn't new, hairclone are doing DP cell multiplication. Aderans done it in the past.
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What they're doing is non-comparable to what stemson is doing.
Edit: also replicel use dermal sheath cups iirc, not dp cells.
Lack of $$$$.the problem is that none of these companies actually start studies. They just talk a lot.
Unfortunate but thickening up some thinner hairs and sideless maintenance would be pretty sweet.The patent confirms this isn't real hair multiplication. This won't give you a full head of hair. We'll have to wait for the trial to see if they can get more regrowth than Replicel. At least they sound intent on actually marketing the treatment.
US20180177716A1 - Transplantation implant for promoting hair growth - Google Patents
The present disclosure relates to a transplantation implant that includes stem cells having an ability of secreting a cytokine that having a hair-growing function.patents.google.com
True, but by the time it's available hopefully there will be better optionsUnfortunate but thickening up some thinner hairs and sideless maintenance would be pretty sweet.
I believe this is from a different company called inscobee, not the method used by Han BioThe patent confirms this isn't real hair multiplication. This won't give you a full head of hair. We'll have to wait for the trial to see if they can get more regrowth than Replicel. At least they sound intent on actually marketing the treatment.
US20180177716A1 - Transplantation implant for promoting hair growth - Google Patents
The present disclosure relates to a transplantation implant that includes stem cells having an ability of secreting a cytokine that having a hair-growing function.patents.google.com
I read this in so many threads. I sometimes read through threads from 2012 (including German ones) and everyone has always said that. Take care my friend.
Yes you're right. I didn't even look at the name, just skimmed it after the HLC admin posted it. I thought he was posting Han's patent. So inscobee is just injecting stem cells, but we still don't know about Han for certainI believe this is from a different company called inscobee, not the method used by Han Bio
Yes you're right. I didn't even look at the name, just skimmed it after the HLC admin posted it. I thought he was posting Han's patent. So inscobee is just injecting stem cells, but we still don't know about Han for certain
maybe a bit different, I've only skimmed the inscobee patent but they seem to be talking about a polyurethane capsule full of stem cells that secrete cytokines.Yes you're right. I didn't even look at the name, just skimmed it after the HLC admin posted it. I thought he was posting Han's patent. So inscobee is just injecting stem cells, but we still don't know about Han for certain
Yeah, Wnts, bFGF, PDGF. I can see it working, but by 2025 I expect to be curedI'll attempt to find
maybe a bit different, I've only skimmed the inscobee patent but they seem to be talking about a polyurethane capsule full of stem cells that secrete cytokines.
Through something commercialized or on your own?Yeah, Wnts, bFGF, PDGF. I can see it working, but by 2025 I expect to be cured
Through HMI-115+small transplant or hair multiplication. Then again maybe on my own with smi+ky+recombinant r-spondin injectionsThrough something commercialized or on your own?