Hair Transplant From Other Areas, Not Just Donor Area From Behind The Head

[Spellbinder]

So recently I stumbled upon this video here

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It's basically a clinic in Tbilisi in Georgia, which does hair transplants not only from the donor area from behind your head, but also any other body parts, that have dark thick hair on it. This might be really interesting for all those like me for example, because I have a lot of thick hair on my beard and on my whole body overall (about 2-3 cm. long 60-70% of it, which I am still fine with if none of the treatment helps). The doctor claims to be able to harvest at least 1000-1500 grafts from the area where beard is growing and also harvest follicles from other parts of your body like for example chest, that way he assures, that even the strongest NV7 guy can recieve at least a lot of density. Also the doctor smartly tries to cover just slightly balding spots with the hair from body as it can make up for the missing density. We all know, that each hair is programmed to reach it's own length, which it eventually can rich before dying and regrowing again, that means, the hair from the chest won't be that long when transplanted for example, but still if you do have a lot of body hair and a lot of money, this is the way to go. Problem is only it's very pricey as I mentioned, the doctor charges 2,6 dollars per graft from your body and 1,5 from the usual donor area from back of the head.

Do you guys know any similar clinics to this? Me personally, never heard of any other. It's the first time I see this. And this makes me happy, even though it's very expensive.

 

[Norwood One]

https://www.dermhairclinic.com/body-hair-to-head-transplant-using-ugraft-fue/

Dermhair clinic in Los Angeles does such procedures. I think the reason it isn't as mainstream is most likely the cost, It apparently costs an arm and a leg.

 

[kj6723]

I am also covered in tons of long body hair, and I can grow a nice beard. Wouldn't want that sh*t anywhere near my hairline, but it is nice to know I have it as potential backup to spread around thinness on top if things ever get that desperate. Turns out this nasty body hair may be good for something after all. Lol

 

[kj6723]

I'm thinking a good long term plan for dudes with plenty of body hair to spare: Go to hairline specialist for all frontal work, using only normal donor hair from back/sides of head, then for anything beyond that, go to one of these clinics for a combo of body/beard mixed in with normal donor hair on areas on top...possibly the best way to max out results in the long run.

 

[Spellbinder]

I'm thinking a good long term plan for dudes with plenty of body hair to spare: Go to hairline specialist for all frontal work, using only normal donor hair from back/sides of head, then for anything beyond that, go to one of these clinics for a combo of body/beard mixed in with normal donor hair on areas on top...possibly the best way to max out results in the long run.

Exactly, you transplant best quality hair to the hairline first and if it still needs to be filled you can use other body hair

 

[Deadman1]

https://www.dermhairclinic.com/body-hair-to-head-transplant-using-ugraft-fue/

Dermhair clinic in Los Angeles does such procedures. I think the reason it isn't as mainstream is most likely the cost, It apparently costs an arm and a leg.

Do not go to Umar. You will spend a lot of money, get bad results, and not hear back from him when you tell him your concerns. Biggest mistake I made was going to this nutjob. He doesn't have a clue.

 

[Norwood One]

Well there you have it. An anecdotal report.

 

[GoldenMane]

Beard hair is pretty good, it grows long, is thick and straight, you could put that anywhere. Body hair could be good for adding density but needs to be mixed with head hair. Leg hair and arm hair is probably the worst, you only want to use that if you've exhausted all other hair. Only for adding density

 

[kj6723]

Beard hair is pretty good, it grows long, is thick and straight, you could put that anywhere. Body hair could be good for adding density but needs to be mixed with head hair. Leg hair and arm hair is probably the worst, you only want to use that if you've exhausted all other hair. Only for adding density

Agreed. Density should be its primary use. Unless you've got super advanced balding and very little donor, prob best not to have any significant patches made up of just body hair.

 

[Wylie]

My experience was the exact opposite. I spent a lot of money and got a result that not a single other doctor in North America could have given me, and perhaps the rest of the world. I knew of one other doctor in the U.S. who supposedly was an expert at repair (just ask him) using non scalp sources and my experience was terrible. First off, he wasted 500 precious scalp grafts, scalp grafts I did not have at my disposal. I paid over ten grand for no results with that clown.

Thankfully Dr. Umar was able to harvest my last remaining 1200-1500 scalp grafts and crafted a remarkable hairline, perhaps my favorite part of the repair. It looks amazing. After living with an awful, pluggy hairline for almost 20 years (from 1993 to around 2012, wearing a hat EVERYWHERE) Dr. Umar pulled off the impossible. He was able to use both scalp and nape hair to create an undetectably natural hairline.

That part of the operation was 100% Umar. All the rest of the work (beard hair extractions over three more surgeries, around 5000 beard grafts) was Umar quickly extracting the grafts, and his techs implanting them. You can pay a premium to have Umar do all the work, but as far as I'm concerned, I was already paying a premium, as my budget barely could afford the work I had done (which took me years to pay off.)

Was it worth it? Absolutely. I don't give it a second thought to go out without a hat on. My skin is pale, my hair is dark, and beard hair only goes so far in covering up all the old plugs. I'm still too self conscious to go without a hat at work, but think nothing of it anywhere else. This was simply impossible for the years leading up to my surgeries with Dr. Umar, and no one else could have done what he did, at least in the U.S.

And that is still the case today.

 

[Deadman1]

Beard hair is pretty good, it grows long, is thick and straight, you could put that anywhere. Body hair could be good for adding density but needs to be mixed with head hair. Leg hair and arm hair is probably the worst, you only want to use that if you've exhausted all other hair. Only for adding density

Actually you are wrong.. Beard hair tends to curl, you only get a single hair per graft, but it is more coarse so if you have exhausted your donor supply on your head, it is your next best option.

Leg hair and arm hair is the worst because it is so fine and doesn't grow long, You would never want to use this for density. only to soften the very front of a hairline.

 

[Deadman1]

My experience was the exact opposite. I spent a lot of money and got a result that not a single other doctor in North America could have given me, and perhaps the rest of the world. I knew of one other doctor in the U.S. who supposedly was an expert at repair (just ask him) using non scalp sources and my experience was terrible. First off, he wasted 500 precious scalp grafts, scalp grafts I did not have at my disposal. I paid over ten grand for no results with that clown.

Thankfully Dr. Umar was able to harvest my last remaining 1200-1500 scalp grafts and crafted a remarkable hairline, perhaps my favorite part of the repair. It looks amazing. After living with an awful, pluggy hairline for almost 20 years (from 1993 to around 2012, wearing a hat EVERYWHERE) Dr. Umar pulled off the impossible. He was able to use both scalp and nape hair to create an undetectably natural hairline.

That part of the operation was 100% Umar. All the rest of the work (beard hair extractions over three more surgeries, around 5000 beard grafts) was Umar quickly extracting the grafts, and his techs implanting them. You can pay a premium to have Umar do all the work, but as far as I'm concerned, I was already paying a premium, as my budget barely could afford the work I had done (which took me years to pay off.)

Was it worth it? Absolutely. I don't give it a second thought to go out without a hat on. My skin is pale, my hair is dark, and beard hair only goes so far in covering up all the old plugs. I'm still too self conscious to go without a hat at work, but think nothing of it anywhere else. This was simply impossible for the years leading up to my surgeries with Dr. Umar, and no one else could have done what he did, at least in the U.S.

And that is still the case today.

I see that was in 2012. Well back then he may have cared and done good work but now he is nut job. I had plug gaps too. Had two simple goals, one was to fill in the gaps. He botched one and failed on the other. He is far worse than even Bosley. PM me and I will give you details.

Did he take your beard grafts from your neck and under your chin where scarring wouldn't be noticeable, or did he do like me and take them from my cheeks, front chin, and upper lip leaving holes and pits in hopes of getting me back for laser resurface surgery? Did he take the beard grafts spaced out so they wouldn't be noticeable or take them all out of one close area leaving you bald spots?

Umar was the worst experience by far of my life. I am so embarrassed and ashamed, especially to have paid so much money because I couldn't risk it being done poorly. I think any other hair transplant surgeon in the US could have done a better job.

Remember everyone, I had very simple and easy goals with low expectations and Umar botched me badly. Then he didn't have the guts to respond when I told him my concerns. That right there tells you. What could he say? I have proof of the botch job.

 

[Wylie]

I see that was in 2012. Well back then he may have cared and done good work but now he is nut job. I had plug gaps too. Had two simple goals, one was to fill in the gaps. He botched one and failed on the other. He is far worse than even Bosley. PM me and I will give you details.

Did he take your beard grafts from your neck and under your chin where scarring wouldn't be noticeable, or did he do like me and take them from my cheeks, front chin, and upper lip leaving holes and pits in hopes of getting me back for laser resurface surgery? Did he take the beard grafts spaced out so they wouldn't be noticeable or take them all out of one close area leaving you bald spots?

Umar was the worst experience by far of my life. I am so embarrassed and ashamed, especially to have paid so much money because I couldn't risk it being done poorly. I think any other hair transplant surgeon in the US could have done a better job.

Remember everyone, I had very simple and easy goals with low expectations and Umar botched me badly. Then he didn't have the guts to respond when I told him my concerns. That right there tells you. What could he say? I have proof of the botch job.

Wow, I'm really sorry to hear this, when one is already disfigured from botched procedures, and then a repair specialist either botches or fails in fixing the damage, its being screwed twice. Cole screwed me in my first repair attempt, but Umar was a lifesaver. However, to be completely honest here, I think he could have worked slower and more carefully in extracting the beard grafts, as he worked as rapidly as possible, and handed it off to his techs.

As far as extractions go, all of them were under the chin. I have to almost never shave under my chin, and I made sure that none were taken from above the jaw line. That area is last resort territory, and sadly, I'm at that stage if I want further work. As good as Umar did using beard hair (and a stellar job of creating a new hairline) I don't have any confidence in my hair being under close scrutiny. I don't really blame Umar for that, beard hair only will provide medium coverage at best. You need to dense pack scalp grafts in for something that withstands close scrutiny, so I had SMP done. While SMP certainly lessened to contrast between pale skin and dark hair, it was an overall failure, because my scalp has seen so much work over the years (first the disfigurements, then the repairs) that the ink "pooled" in some of the depressions in my scalp. As bad as that sounds, I'm still glad I did it. I needed that to lessen the contrast and it did quite well. The beard hair and the SMP into the strip scars was an overall win. Scars are nice and flat, and the ink took very well. That part came out very well.

What are your repair plans moving forward? You might want to consider SMP. I did the Milena Lardi SMP, which is not permanent and will disappear in a few years. When this does, I'm not sure what my next step will be. I might move on to concealers. It's all a daily battle, but this is the best I've looked in 20 years for sure.

 

[Deadman1]

You need to dense pack scalp grafts in for something that withstands close scrutiny, so I had SMP done. While SMP certainly lessened to contrast between pale skin and dark hair, it was an overall failure, because my scalp has seen so much work over the years (first the disfigurements, then the repairs) that the ink "pooled" in some of the depressions in my scalp. As bad as that sounds, I'm still glad I did it. I needed that to lessen the contrast and it did quite well. The beard hair and the SMP into the strip scars was an overall win. Scars are nice and flat, and the ink took very well. That part came out very well.

Did Umar do the SMP? One thing I learned from him is never go to an hair transplant surgeon who also does SMP or laser face resurfacing if he uses beard grafts as he will make sure both a are needed.

What are your repair plans moving forward? You might want to consider SMP. I did the Milena Lardi SMP, which is not permanent and will disappear in a few years. When this does, I'm not sure what my next step will be. I might move on to concealers. It's all a daily battle, but this is the best I've looked in 20 years for sure.

What repair plans? I had one shot to get this right. I paid $36,000 to a "world renowned" hair transplant surgeon because I couldn't take a chance of getting it messed up and he botched me badly. How can I trust anyone else? I lost my job over this for a year with tens of thousands of dollars in credit card debt for the procedures. I contacted 8 other hair transplant surgeons and no one will even attempt the repair.

I have a new job at substantial less pay but am under enormous stress every day because it takes me 1.5 to 2.5 hours using concealers to try to cover his botch job and it looks horrible and completely unnatural. Three days last week I almost quit my job because I couldn't get my hairline to look anything close to decent. Every day I wake up with the stress of wondering if this is the day I will have to quit my job. How would you like to wake up day after day, month after month, wondering if this is the day you may lose your job (sort of like hearing that there are going to be lay offs but not sure when or if you are on the list).

One concealer I have to use besides hair fibers is Couvre which is a colored lotion you put on. Just using it tends to tangle your hair and when you comb through it the comb pulls out more hair. I lose about 25 hairs every day doing this so as you can imagine, things are getting worse. Three days last week I almost quit my job because I couldn't get my hairline to look anything close to half way decent.

So right now I am suicidal. I have fought this for so long and my last hope was eliminated at the 13th month point when I saw this in never going to get better. Once I lose my job it's all over.

 

[Wylie]

Did Umar do the SMP? One thing I learned from him is never go to an hair transplant surgeon who also does SMP or laser face resurfacing if he uses beard grafts as he will make sure both a are needed.



What repair plans? I had one shot to get this right. I paid $36,000 to a "world renowned" hair transplant surgeon because I couldn't take a chance of getting it messed up and he botched me badly. How can I trust anyone else? I lost my job over this for a year with tens of thousands of dollars in credit card debt for the procedures. I contacted 8 other hair transplant surgeons and no one will even attempt the repair.

I have a new job at substantial less pay but am under enormous stress every day because it takes me 1.5 to 2.5 hours using concealers to try to cover his botch job and it looks horrible and completely unnatural. Three days last week I almost quit my job because I couldn't get my hairline to look anything close to decent. Every day I wake up with the stress of wondering if this is the day I will have to quit my job. How would you like to wake up day after day, month after month, wondering if this is the day you may lose your job (sort of like hearing that there are going to be lay offs but not sure when or if you are on the list).

One concealer I have to use besides hair fibers is Couvre which is a colored lotion you put on. Just using it tends to tangle your hair and when you comb through it the comb pulls out more hair. I lose about 25 hairs every day doing this so as you can imagine, things are getting worse. Three days last week I almost quit my job because I couldn't get my hairline to look anything close to half way decent.

So right now I am suicidal. I have fought this for so long and my last hope was eliminated at the 13th month point when I saw this in never going to get better. Once I lose my job it's all over.

I am sorry to hear about your situation, I sincerely am. I'm not at all dismissing your problems, because I was disfigured for a long time. However, I'd bet money my disfigurement was far worse than yours is. You clearly are obsessing over your condition, and you are taking this to the far end of the extreme. Let me blunt: Your condition is NOT nearly as bad as you are making it! I know that you are nowhere near as grossly disfigured from your surgery with Dr. Umar as I was from my plug jobs of the 90's. You may be extremely unhappy, and you might have the right to be (I don't know, I've seen no evidence of any of it) but I can tell from what you have written above that you have turned a surgical result you are unhappy with into a life destroying event. It isn't! Again, I've been there, done that, and I had a large bald spot, around 10 strip scars, and half a head full of see thru plugs, so I'm guessing my condition was far worse than anything you've seen (and if you were relatively happy before you saw Umar, then I know this to be true)

As far as you taking so much time to prepare your hair every morning, that is completely irrational. Even spending a half hour getting it "looking normal" is more than enough every morning, and you are spending 1.5 hours to 2.5 hours? This shows an extremely unhealthy level of obsession. Also stating that you "may to have to quit your job" is strange, why would you have to quit your job? You don't have to quit your job. But you believe you have to, which is just wrong.

You are not gonna want to hear this, but the doctor you need to be seeing is a licensed clinical psychologist, someone who will help retrain your mind into thinking about things in the correct way. Please don't take this suggestion lightly. I've done it before myself and it truly helps, but you have to want to help yourself first before you can hope to see a positive outcome. I know of one person who had a scalp lift on both sides of his head. Front of his scalp is covered with scar tissue, scars running all around the back of his head. Has to wear a hat everywhere. He in no way is as worried about his condition as you are, and his attitude is the reason why. He has told me "I know a lot of people are far worse off than I am" and he is not talking about people who had a bad hair transplant, because you can't get a more disfiguring result than this guy has. It's the worst of the worst.

One thing that might be helpful to remember: Everyone has their own issues they are worried about. As much as you might think people are constantly worrying about your hair, the truth is they don't give a damn about it. It's not something they think about, they have more important things to worry about.

If I'm wrong about my observations, feel free to post pictures to show that I'm mistaken and I'll reassess your condition. Otherwise, I suggest you sincerely look into fixing how you are reacting to your experience with Umar. Sometimes you have to put in hard work to bring about a positive change. I wish you the best of luck in your journey.