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thinstinks

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is dying your hair bad for us male pattern baldness fuckas

do you recommend a certain dye??

thanks
 

Jyn

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I remember reading an article that said it wasn't too good for hair. The HairLossTalk.com stlying article recommends dying the tips though to make the roots appear thicker.
 

hopewas

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yes it's bad for you "male pattern baldness fuckas". it helps conceal your thinning if you dye it light, but it accelerates your hair loss. it's not good for your hair. at all. you're putting chemicals in your hair. if alcohol based gels are bad for your hair.. you can only imagine what putting chemicals in your hair does....blowdrying your hair on hot, using alcohol based gels, hair spray, hair dye, etc.. are all bad for your hair.
 

Stingray

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" if alcohol based gels are bad for your hair.. "

Ahh, but isn't most minoxidil products ALSO alcohol based?

Hummmmm. It's no worse for thinning hair than it is for non-thinning hair.
 

hopewas

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totally different. minoxidil goes on your scalp..not your hair..and everyone knows that alcohol based gel is bad for your hair. quit trying to sound like you have a point
 

The Gardener

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Nobody said it is GOOD for hair, hopewas. Dying hair is generally not good for your hair. BUT, I have not heard anything saying that the damage hair dye does to hair has any effect on the mechanics of the male pattern baldness process in particular.

I agree with Sting. It is no worse for an male pattern baldness sufferer than it is for a normal person.
 

hopewas

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it makes your hair weaker which accelerates hair loss. male pattern baldness makes your hair weaker and weaker until it is non visible. all i said is that it accelerates it. whatever though.
 

Thinning Sucks

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hopewas said:
it makes your hair weaker which accelerates hair loss. male pattern baldness makes your hair weaker and weaker until it is non visible. all i said is that it accelerates it. whatever though.

I LOVE how thick mine looks after coloring....makes me feel like I had another transplant.
 

hopewas

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ooh..just wait a while.. mwah ha ha. someone who knows that they're thinning and dyes their hair is almost as dumb as someone doing rasta on their hair while they're thinning. in a few months you'll be bitching on this board
 

NilesTilden

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Welp, for this hair loss fricker, when I tried dying my haair a couple times 10 years ago, I had a mega shed over the next couple days. That's when my thinning first became noticable. I used dyes that sit on the scalp fer several minutes. I don't know why dyes that don't touch the scalp would be any trouble. May effect hair quality but not loss.

This subject has come up several times in the past here, so I know others have had bad sheds after dye jobs.

Hair Warriors beware!
 

DANOBLASTER

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I had my very first shed after after dying my hair back when i was 17. I know it's natural for hair to be damaged and break after dying, but most of the shed hair never grew back. ever since then, i've been aware of my receding hairline. I do not care what anyone says, it will accelerate hairloss.
 

THOR

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hopewas said:
it makes your hair weaker which accelerates hair loss. male pattern baldness makes your hair weaker and weaker until it is non visible. all i said is that it accelerates it. whatever though.

I’m with Niles… as long as you don’t “sautéâ€￾ your scalp with chemicals, dying your hair will not accelerate your hair loss. E.g if you high-light your hair you will only affect the hair shaft and not the actual hair root. It’s true that the chemicals can f*** up the quality of your hair, and make it wiry etc. However, that is a completely unrelated to the miniaturization of your hair shaft that you talk about. //Thor
 

The Gardener

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Firsthand experience here

I dye my hair every 4-8 weeks to wash out the grey hairs. From my personal experience, dying ones hair does damage the hairs. I've done some research on this, and chemically what is going on is that the peroxide in the hair dyes that is the solvent for the coloring does damage to the grown and mature hair shafts that are being dyed. The damage is part and parcel of the dying process, in order for the dye to set within the hair shaft, it needs to perforate the hairs so to speak to give the dye a place within to rest and leave its much wanted coloring agents.

The peroxide effectively damages the shafts, tearing open the intertwined keratin structures. Thus, dying thin hairs can theoretically make them more susceptible to breakage.

However, damaging the mature and grown surface hairs with the effect of adding pigment to them is far different chemically than any supposed claim that they add to the DHT/miniturazation process that causes male pattern baldness. In effect, from my personal experience, I stand very firmly behind the claim that the effect of peroxide in making hair look more pigmented has no documented effect in terms of adding to the process under the skin level that DHT is playing to make the hair growth that one has more minaturized. One can shave his hair completely, the ultimate in damage to one's surface hair, and yet still the DHT under the skin will continue to reap its damage to the hairlines of susceptible males suffering male pattern baldness.

My conclusion has been that good nutrition and good occasional conditioning will keep even dyed hair in excellent shape. Despite the occational dying of my hair, my regime of minoxidil, spironolactone, and Nizoral still continue to give me excellent results and reduction in my balding areas despite it. Just my two cents.

And if hair dye were so counterproductive to the effects of minoxidil, then why would they include coupons for Just for Men hair dye inside the packaging for Rogaine? If Just for Men hair dye counteracted the effects of Rogaine in any way, one would think that they would not only NOT include such coupons, but advise against the use of hair dye to enhance the supposed efficacy of their drug, Minoxidil, so they ensure more repeat business.
 
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