hair density (2)

[Guest]

what density in hairs per cm² has the normal caucasian guy?

i know its different for black, brown, blonde haired guys, so tell me what density did they got.

 

[antonio666]

for the european male it is 220 hairs per cm2,i think orientals have the lowest amount of hairs per cm2

 

[Guest]

no 220 is too much. i know from a hair transplant specialist who measured the hair of his cousin who has brad pitt hair who got 190 hairs/cm².

so maybe thats average. but i think you need far less for a full look.

 

[Chemical J]

220 Is possible, but its extremely rare

 

[Guest]

why is this extremely rare? i thought it was common wisdom that full density on a caucasian was equivalent to 100 grafts/cm2, which, with anywhere between 2.2 and 2.4 hairs per graft, about 220 HAIRS/cm2 makes sense, no?

 

[s.a.f]

Apparantly a good surgeon can give you the illusion of normal density with as little as 35 graftspcm2. 35 -50 is the norm for hair transplant's but 75 - 90 is possible.

 

[Guest]

what density did you got , s.a.f.? and how does it look like?

anyway, i got about 35 grafts in the front, or 40 i dont know exactly. well, if its styled the right way, it looks like normal density (not exactly normal but everyone i asked said they dont see it got hairloss), though i still see the thinning and everyone who knows about male pattern baldness will see it. look my pic, then you know what im talking about.

but thats not enough, 35-40 grafts. you need more if you re young. i think like most hair transplant surgeons suggest, 50-60 grafts will look good and like coverage. you anyway only got 50-55 at your sides so it would match the sides at this density. which i think is ok. you dont need brad pitt hair.

 

[antonio666]

neo1234,

do more research,the sides have way more than 50 follicles percm2

probably nearer to 150

 

[s.a.f]

I think I got 40 - 50 but it looks very thin. My problem was that the surgeon had a large area to cover, I'm intending to go back to increase the density.

 

[Guest]

what area did you have to cover and did you cover it completley with 40-50 graftts?

 

[s.a.f]

Practicly nw6 and no I did'nt get to cover the all the crown.

 

[Guest]

ok

did it make you feel better?

 

[s.a.f]

Its literaly changed my life. I feel so much better about myself. I'm starting to live my life again rather than just existing.

 

[Bryan]

no 220 is too much. i know from a hair transplant specialist who measured the hair of his cousin who has brad pitt hair who got 190 hairs/cm².

HUH?? Look, the average starting baseline haircount of all the guys in the huge Propecia phase III trial was 876 hairs per 1-inch circle, which is 171.8 hairs per square centimeter. And those guys were BALDING (Norwood/Hamilton II vertex, III vertex, IV or V)!!

Here's a section on average haircounts from a well-known authority on hairloss, Dr. David A. Whiting, MD. This is from the excellent article he wrote a few years ago titled "Male Pattern Hair Loss: Current Understanding" (International Journal of Dermatology 1998, 37: 561-566). I've included the medical references Dr. Whiting cites at the end of the paragraph:

...Regardless of age, balding scalps have a reduced density of terminal hair follicles when compared with non-bald people of the same age. Those aged 30-90 years with normal hair have been reported to have 459 follicles per cm^2, compared with 306 in male pattern hair loss. (30) Recent data suggest that follicular counts in normal adults average 326 per cm^2, and, in Androgenetic Alopecia, 278 per cm^2. (5)

(5) Whiting DA. Diagnostic and predictive value of horizontal sections of scalp biopsy specimens in male androgenetic alopecia. J Am Acad Dermatol 1993; 28: 755-763.

(30) Giacometti L. The anatomy of the human scalp. In: Montagna W, ed. Advances in Biology of the Skin, Vol. 6. Oxford: Pergamon, 1965: 97-120.