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FullAgain

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Hi everyone,

I've noticed thinning hair the last few years, and I've tried to ignore it. About 13 months ago, I finally decided to do something about it. I had thinning in the front, and a bald spot developing in the back. I had general thinning throughout my scalp as well, although my hairline remained in tact.

So 13 months ago, I started the regimen of Rogaine Foam twice a day, Proscar 1mg/day, and Nizoral Shampoo 3 times week. The bald spot has filled in, and my hair is much thicker than it was 13 months ago. If I maintained what I have the rest of my life, I would be extremely happy.

I haven't noticed any side effects so far while on this treatment. But I am worried about the Proscar. My family, some of which have thinning hair as well, told me that Proscar can make men infertile or cause birth defects. I'm 30 years old, and plan on having kids in the next few years.

I did research on Proscar and infertility, but there's so much varying opinions that I don't know what to think. Can Proscar cause infertility or birth defects? I'm very happy with my results, but the infertility/birth defect issues have me seriously considering getting off Proscar...

If I get off Proscar, but stay with Rogaine/Nizoral, will I still lose what I've regained?

Thanks for any help/input.
 

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Millions of men have had kids on finasteride, the only risk is if the woman ingests the tablets.
 

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You should be fine to have kids on finasteride from what I've read. I have read about some people with fertility issues which rectified once off the drug but I think that is a minority.

Personally, if it were me, I would come off finasteride while trying to conceive and hope that i was only off it for a very short time. I think the risk is quite low but I wouldn't be able to forgive myself in the case that a birth defect was caused. I think to myself, 'imagine telling your son that the reason his genitals didn't form properly was because you wanted nicer hair'.

out of interest have you got any pics of your hair before and after? your hair loss sounds similiar to mine. Did you have any side effects too?
 

FullAgain

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Thanks for the reply guys. Sound like I will be okay staying on the finasteride at 1mg, but when I'm ready to have kids, I'll get off the finasteride 3 months prior.

I never did take before pics, but I wish I had taken a few to track progress. My friends and stylist have noticed a big difference though.

I haven't experienced any side effects from the finasteride 1mg/rogaine/nizoral. From what I read about the finasteride sexual side effects, I felt like some of it was partly mental. They're subconsciously worried about the finasteride effects and that leads to sexual problems. This isn't the case for all, but I think it plays a role for some men. That was part of the reason I never took before pics. I wanted the regimen to feel like it wasn't a big deal and just a part of my daily routine, like taking a daily vitamin or brushing my teeth.

I'm active in the gym, so I was slightly worried about gaining weight, as I read that was a side effect. Luckily this hasn't been a problem. I'm actually in better shape now, than I was a year ago. I've been able to tone down my body, and keep my body fat low.

Since I've reached a point where I'm not trying to regrow hair, but just maintain.. should I change anything in my regimen? Such as dropping the rogaine, or lowering the finasteride 1mg/day?
 

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No infertility, but honestly I'm somewhat glad to have a reduced sex-drive. Helps me keep my priorities in check!

and I can still get it up whenever, I just don't have it on the mind all of the time. Good thing too because I'm recently single. :whistle:
 

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Merck baldness drugs destroy sperm, cause infertility and ejaculation disorders, even after you stop using them

by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, NaturalNews Editor

(NaturalNews) Hey, men! Looking for a way to ruin your sex life and become infertile? Try Propecia or Proscar, two drugs from the vaccine giant Merck, whose top vaccine scientist Dr. Maurice Hilleman already admitted that Merck's vaccines contained "stealth viruses" that cause cancer (http://www.naturalnews.com/033584_Dr_Ma ... _SV40.html).

Now, the FDA is finally -- after years of delays and denials -- calling for new warnings on the labels of male baldness drugs made by Merck. According to the FDA, Propecia and Proscar are now linked to:

• Ejaculation disorders (oops!)
• Libido disorders (not tonight, honey)
• Orgasm disorders (still nothing?)
• Erectile dysfunction (life is hard, but you're not)
• Male infertility (you're firing blanks, dude...)

And the best part about these male baldness drugs? These effects continue even after you stop using the drugs!


The downward spiral of going soft on life
So let's see: A guy starts to go bald and thinks his male virility is slowly slipping away, but at least he can still get erections without pills, he thinks to himself. So he reaches for Propecia or Proscar to solve his male baldness problem. But a month later, he might have another tuft of hair on his head, but his manhood has gone soft. And five months down the road, he's got so much hair that "chicks are digging me!" but in bed he's softer than a baseball bat made of Jell-O.

Ah, but wait -- there's another pill for that, too! So the guy starts popping v**** to give himself an erection which barely even works because blood flow to his member has been reduced by his baldness drug.

So now just to "get laid" as some guys like to crudely describe it, he's got to pop one pill to have hair, another pill to have an erection, and the thought of it all makes him so depressed that he soon finds himself popping SSRI antidepressant drugs just to keep from crying like a baby during his morning shower. So now he's a total pill freak who doesn't realize the real root of the problem is not his biochemistry but far more likely his personality and priorities.


There's a better way: Toss the pills and restore your manhood naturally
I could do a whole series of articles on how to keep your male hormones and "performance" at peak levels no matter what your age. Healthy men and women have sex well into the 60's (and beyond). Healthy men in their 30's and 40's do not "go limp" unless something's seriously wrong with their health. In fact, just to be open and honest about basic male biology, if you're not waking up with a "stiffy" several mornings a week, something's probably not right with your nutrition and cardiovascular health. Healthy men experience frequent morning erections, plain and simple. (What, I can't say that on the internet? Just be glad we're not posting videos!)

Now, for hair loss there's not much you can do about that. It's the same story with hair color: Hair is "programmed" to go grey at a certain age as a sign of seniority. You see it in gorillas as well with the silverback hair pattern that signifies experience and seniority. Some guys are just flat-out programmed to lose their hair (it truly is genetic in most cases), and about the only thing you can do about that is practice anti-aging nutritional strategies to slow the biological clock of aging. This is done through four primary strategies:

• Engaging in regular strengthening exercise
• Consuming superfoods and raw vegetable juices
• Avoiding processed dead foods, fried foods
• Avoiding medications and vaccines

To generate your own sex hormones for free, the best strategy is to engage in regular strenuous exercise with something like kettlebells.

Avoiding junk food and medications is key to protecting your manhood and preventing "premature aging," which is technically what's hitting a lot of guys in their 20's and 30's these days. A huge number of prescription drugs interfere with healthy hormone levels and turn you into a flaccid pill-popping eunuch. This is especially true of cholesterol drugs and heart medications.

If you're in that boat right now, you can turn it around by making better choices on your day-to-day diet and activities.


Losing your hair? Real women like authentic, confident men more than they like hair
Sure, losing your hair is depressing and downright cruel. Do women judge you by your looks? You bet they do, especially when they're younger. But if you're losing your hair at age 35, you probably shouldn't be dating 20-year-olds anyway.

Mature women are far more interested in who you are as a human being rather than solely what you look like. If you are authentic and confident in who you are and what you bring to a potential relationship, the male pattern baldness issue quickly becomes irrelevant. After all, there are lots of guys with plenty of hair who treat women like crap, and women are tired of that routine. What women really want is someone who sees them for who they are; who values them as human beings and life partners; and who is committed to a loving relationship.

If you're chasing after women who aren't into quality relationships, you're probably chasing the wrong women, hair or no hair. Because, remember, a full head of hair doesn't compensate for being a prick.

And if you're popping pills to try to override your biochemistry, you're probably looking for love in all the wrong places, as the song goes. Maybe you should focus on yourself for a change: Your listening skills, your ethics, and your appetite for sharing the fun moments in life with someone you love. Maybe the problem isn't your lack of prescription medications as much as it's just YOU!

Looking in the mirror and manning up to that fact isn't easy, as we all can probably agree. I've had my own moments of awakening that took courage to face as well. But if you really want to be attractive to the opposite sex, happy with who you are as a person, and confident in moving through the world with purpose, you'll need nutrition, regular exercise, and a dedication to living by a set of ethical principles. And as far as I know, you can't pop pills to get principles. Those have to come from your inner drive to be a better human being.

That's the true path to not only a happy relationship with your partner, but also just being able to live with yourself.

Sources include:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/ ... L2E8FCD4...
 

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The could possibly me a very small isolated cases where it hindered a man's ability to impregnate a woman...but those are very few, and very far between.

I wouldn't worry about it, and you shouldn't need to get off finasteride at all when you decide to start a family.
 

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No, finasteride won't cause pregnancy defects. finasteride does not transfer in sperm. And don't listen to that bullshit by The Natural. Chances of it turning into cancer is extremely slim. Better never have fast food either. Jesus.
 

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The Natural, you keep taking your teaspoons of curcumen a day and watch yourself going balder and balder.

Trying to scare people off taking finasteride just because you don't take it is wrong.
 

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Not everyone is disturbed by the prospect of losing hair. But for those that do contemplate the onset of hair loss with dread there are a number of viable treatments. This article outlines some of the most popular and effective baldness solutions currently available.
 
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IrishFella said:
The Natural, you keep taking your teaspoons of curcumen a day and watch yourself going balder and balder.

Trying to scare people off taking finasteride just because you don't take it is wrong.
:agree:
 

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Thanks for your opinions guys. Most of your feedback is in support of continuing finasteride, without fertility or birth defect problems.. except in extremely rare cases.

The Natural, instead of giving your opinion, your post seemed more like a rant. It didn't feel genuine. Also, your link to your sources article didn't work.

As someone stated, finasteride doesn't tranfer to sperm. Does that mean it's okay if my girlfriend swallows during oral sex? (too much info, but I'm curious lol)
 

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IrishFella said:
The Natural, you keep taking your teaspoons of curcumen a day and watch yourself going balder and balder.

Trying to scare people off taking finasteride just because you don't take it is wrong.

Look Ronald McDonald, if it pains you to confront these hard facts about drug-use, then perhaps you should re-evaluate whether or not its consumption is worth the risk.

Love your spelling of curcumin, by the way, "curcumen." It is appropriate. I shall stay a virile man while taking curcumin and aged garlic extract. Forums are full of propecia-users who wish they could state the same.

Oh, and tell your girlfriend, Kirby, that I recommend a medical screening every six to eight months.
 

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FullAgain said:
Thanks for your opinions guys. Most of your feedback is in support of continuing finasteride, without fertility or birth defect problems.. except in extremely rare cases.

The Natural, instead of giving your opinion, your post seemed more like a rant. It didn't feel genuine. Also, your link to your sources article didn't work.

As someone stated, finasteride doesn't tranfer to sperm. Does that mean it's okay if my girlfriend swallows during oral sex? (too much info, but I'm curious lol)

You came here for support of your drug use. And lo and behold, you received some from (guess who?) drug users. No surprise there.

But what you, and others like you, need is objectivity (hence, my cut and paste from Natural News), not reassurances from other drug users. You need to know that there is a possibility that you may encounter adverse side effects because of your drug use, irrespective of how my post "felt" to you.

Look at the facts. Search this forum for others who have had problems with this drug. They are not hard to find.
 

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The Natural said:
IrishFella said:
The Natural, you keep taking your teaspoons of curcumen a day and watch yourself going balder and balder.

Trying to scare people off taking finasteride just because you don't take it is wrong.

Look Ronald McDonald, if it pains you to confront these hard facts about drug-use, then perhaps you should re-evaluate whether or not its consumption is worth the risk.

Love your spelling of curcumin, by the way, "curcumen." It is appropriate. I shall stay a virile man while taking curcumin and aged garlic extract. Forums are full of propecia-users who wish they could state the same.

Oh, and tell your girlfriend, Kirby, that I recommend a medical screening every six to eight months.

Dawwhh, how cute, might I suggest rosemary and thyme just to mix things up? I may have touched a nerve with that last post because you know it's true.

Natural supplements will do nada, zilch. Good luck with your herbs and spices .....

:)

EDIT: OK, I'm not going to edit my post but add to it, I came here for information and NOT to argue, I get you're totally against drugs, while I'm not, we'll agree to disagree and I'm leaving it at that whether you reply or not.
 
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