Great news for future hairloss treatment ASC-J9!!

[phish]

recently i emailed the makers of ASC-J9(http://www.androscience.com/product.htm) those not familiar with the product read up on it. anyways i was curious how the development was coming a long and the ceo responded to my email.

Currently, the acne cream using ASC-J9 is on Phase
2
clinical trial this study started in September and patients' enrollment at this site
may
have already completed, but you can call to find out whether you can
still
participate. If you miss this trial, there will be a Phase 3 sometimes
next
year, we can notify you when and where this may take place.

As for the alopecia drug, we already have a new formulation developed
and
that formulation is in a "foam" (similar to the "Rogane" foam product).
We
are doing some final tests of this product right now before submitting
to
FDA for a IND permission to run Clinical study in men (hopefully
sometime in
2008). Again, thank you for your interest in our products.

Best Regards
Charles

Charles Shih, PhD
President & CEO
AndroScience Corporation

I think this stuff is the real deal and now that their useing foam style technolgy im even more confident this is going to a blockbuster anti androgen in the near future.

 

[cal]

I also have a lot of hope for this stuff. Long-term prevention without side effects will do practically as much good as HM if you catch the situation early.

 

[barcafan]

How long will this all take provided everything goes smooth? 5 years?

 

[cal]

We can probably use the acne-formulated stuff in some way as soon as it hits. A few years. Probably around the same time that HM really starts getting within our reach.

 

[bubka]

I have news for you guys, this "HM" is probably at least 10 year off until it will be practiced and affordable to the general public

as for this product... i don't see much promise

 

[hairsucks]

I have news for you guys, this "HM" is probably at least 10 year off until it will be practiced and affordable to the general public

as for this product... i don't see much promise

Why do you say 10 years? where are you geting this 10 year timescale?

and why say you don't see much promise in this new treatment? do you know something others don't?

 

[bubka]

yeah i do, firstly it is common sense, we are talking about a medical procedure that involves cloning human cells which is STILL in its infancy, at least 5 years to get that done, then 5 years for approval, I mean do you actually think you can go into a Dr's office next year and get this done... keep dreaming

as for the, "ASC-J9," the 1998 web designed website is very telling, not to mention that it is laced with "natural" all over, which is a lame marketing term which pulls in clues consumers but any real chemist or person who understand basic chemistry knows there is NO difference between a chemical that is made by a living organism, or by a human in a lab

 

[hairsucks]

yeah i do, firstly it is common sense, we are talking about a medical procedure that involves cloning human cells which is STILL in its infancy, at least 5 years to get that done, then 5 years for approval, I mean do you actually think you can go into a Dr's office next year and get this done... keep dreaming

No, I don't think you can get this done next year, I was asking why you think 10 years?

as for the, "ASC-J9," the 1998 web designed website is very telling, not to mention that it is laced with "natural" all over, which is a lame marketing term which pulls in clues consumers but any real chemist or person who understand basic chemistry knows there is NO difference between a chemical that is made by a living organism, or by a human in a lab

So you’re basing this on a poorly designed website? surely it has some promise or they would not put it through the FDA trial? Is that not a very lengthy, pricey process?

 

[bubka]

No, I don't think you can get this done next year, I was asking why you think 10 years?

yep, and I explained it

So you’re basing this on a poorly designed website? surely it has some promise or they would not put it through the FDA trial? Is that not a very lengthy, pricey process?

Yes, expensive, and lengthy, they say that have raised ONLY 7 million dollars, and "planned" FDA trials, they are are in "pre-clinical"

do you guys even read the information provided or just jump to conclusions based on hopes and dreams, the information is RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU, USE IT

 

[hairsucks]

who jumped to conclusions? did I say anything about this being the new cure or something , I simply asked you to explain where your getting your 10 year time frame from for HM and why you didn't see any promise in this new treatment? :jackit:

 

[bubka]

I did, and also proved you cannot read too

 

[cal]

Check Bubka's history of past posts, Hairsucks. You're arguing with a Propecia shill.

 

[bubka]

"Propecia shill"

a drug that works on 90% of the people who take it, how DARE I suggest it to anyone, pathetic

women should not handle broken propecia tablets

 

[evildude]

what does "laced with natural" mean and why is that automatically a bad thing? as far as i know, asc-j9 is based on a natural substance, but highly altered, to produce almost an entirely new product. it is said to attack the androgen receptors themselves.

 

[Newbaldy84]

damn bubka do you have to be pesimistic about every new product that shows some promise and gives us all hope?. I think this is huge and with that foam technology it can be really effective. For those of us that still have most of our hair we can stop further balding cold forever. I thing that's huge.

 

[michael barry]

This is good news and I hope for a great trial result



They wouldn't be going to a trial if they didnt have high hopes. The hopes may or may not be misfounded, but I wish everybody luck. IT would be wonderful if a side-effect free topical that could stop baldness was out there. Am all for it. Hope they have success. Thats what tests and trials are for.

 

[abcdefg]

Just because ascj 9 is derived from some natural product doesnt mean anything. We could easily start arguing on what natural means, but instead we know curcumin has powerful properties but the substance has problems like absorption among others. We dont know much until its done and able to be used really, but like any treatment it holds promise to be safer then propecia and so being an improvement what else would you want?

 

[cal]

Natural, shmatural. Cyanide is "naturally-occurring" too.

I take Finasteride myself. I sometimes slam it depending on the subject/thread and that's because Merck is not telling the whole story on it. But finasteride is not evil. It's not God-sent either. It's just another substance that can be good or bad depending on a lot of things.


ASC-J9 seems like there's A LOT to like about it and very little not to like about it. If it comes out, I may take it in addition to finasteride or I may drop the finasteride entirely. Just depends on who well this new stuff turns out to work.