GOOD NEWS FROM INTERCYTEX (MARCH 26 2009)

[ComeOnPropy]

I just looked at the photos of from balding blog and those pictures look awesome, i mean if thats almost a completely bald scalp then there is now lots of follicles forming in that area or appear to be, why such pessimissim those pictures look great to me.

 

[Blondilocks]

I rewatched the NHBC video today where Dr Washnik of Aderans and Bosley was talking about hair multiplication in 2007: and predicting its implementantion by 2010. Back then he says the fundamentals are covered, and that there a 3 groups working on it

Aderans
Adernas affiliate
Intercytex

All of whom have ties with Bosley, although his prediction wil not be plausible for commercialisation, what does interest me, is that they are waiting to assess the various different routes/procedures involved with hair multiplication.

Once assesed i they will know which route to preceed with and ultimately push Bosley funding into, so after Aderans finished phase II, this year. They will assess the different routes and go to phase III from there. Its really not a case of will a phase III happen more a case of when.

*The different methods being explored by Bosley that i am talking about can be found interestingly enough posted, i think for the first time by Dr Farjo on balding blog beneath the Intercytex scalp pictures.

On and

Pessism is the rear guard to diappointment

However making a sceptic into a believer is quite convincing:

Dr Rasmman: June 2008

Hair multiplication is most likely more than 2-3 years away. There was some talk about it at the International Society of Hair Restoration Surgery (ISHRS) conference years ago, but nothing was said this past year (not the upcoming one in September, obviously), which I take to mean that there was no advancements worthy to take through FDA type of clinical trials. It is still an elusive “cureâ€￾ far away on the horizon, but hopefully in our lifetime.

To put it in perspective, the cure for HIV/AIDS, diabetes, herpes, and even the common cold with billions of dollars invested in research is still a far distance away and may be easier to cure than balding is. I realize that the 10 year prediction seems to be a rolling number, but there is nothing out there to suggest that any breakthrough is imminent. I’m sure that statement will cause me to receive an email flood from angry fans of press releases, but show me some reproducible proof and I’ll be glad to post an update here.

Dr W Rassman: April 2009

“Hair cloning is one of the hot topics that has been brought up many times in questions posed to this blog over the past 4 years, and although this technology is not ready for commercial use, its time is coming and the advancement is very exciting.â€￾

 

[uncomfortable man]

It will come way too late, when were on our death beds and it won't matter anymore. How depressing.

 

[dimitar_berbagod]

You're annoyingly depressing!

Maybe HM is a while away but your posts about it not being viable for us are just boring. You've become so consumed by your own hair loss that you try to rub it off on others.

Give it a rest!

 

[Flavio]

[...] We are closer and closer to the finishing line. Also one psychic predicted that 2009 is going to be full of good news in finding cure for baldness. Now I believe that.

You don't have to be a psychic to know that 2009 is going to be a great year for male pattern baldness sufferers. There are so many companies trying to find a cure and investing millions, it's only a matter of time until we start to see some palpable results. Intercytex was always my favorite of the lot: their treatment won't be the definitive cure, but it will be a major improvement.

Great news, thank you for sharing this, JJMD.

 

[Flavio]

Where can we see those wonderful pictures?

 

[ComeOnPropy]

Sure Flavio pictures can be found here

http://www.baldingblog.com/2009/04/10/i ... 2-results/

 

[PersonGuy]

And once I win the lottery, that is what I will do.

If HM or Follica ever comes to market as a viable solution I will start a fundraiser in your name UC Man. If it ever happens hold me to it and I won't let you down.

 

[PersonGuy]

Oh and to answer your invisible question...I still hate it, but if I'm too vocal I get my thread locked. So sadly all those to be educated are kept in the dark to make the same mistake.

 

[uncomfortable man]

I deleted it because I wasn't sure if you would be offended by the "Dutch boy bangs" comment. I would probably need two megga sessions just to reach your pre-op level of hairloss. I don't want to live like this anymore and I want to be able to do something about it but the more research I do, the more discouraged I become as there are no real viable solutions for an nw5 to get back an acceptable head of hair. So based on your experience, you would say no to getting transplants?

 

[ThisBlows]

My sympathy is gone for you. Harden up.

 

[uncomfortable man]

So what you are saying is I should stop caring? As if I could just change the way I feel like changing a light bulb? Do you see me telling you how to feel about sh*t in your life buddy?

 

[ClayShaw]

So what you are saying is I should stop caring? As if I could just change the way I feel like changing a light bulb? Do you see me telling you how to feel about sh*t in your life buddy?

I get really sick of people on this forum telling other people what should and shouldn't bother them, especially when I read "Well, I don't let my baldness bother me...". Its just incredibly silly. If baldness doesn't bother you, why in the hell are you on an internet forum for hairloss???? It makes no sense. If you're here, it bothers you, period. To this they say, "Well, I'm only here to learn about treatments." If you're interested in treatments, you're interested in not going bald because it bothers you.
"If hair loss is your biggest problem than you're really lucky or your priorities are all messed up." Why should statements like this be true? If I have other problems, in my life, I can solve them. A few years ago, I wasn't doing so well. My life wasn't going anywhere. So I worked hard, put it in a ton of applications, and got myself a job. Problem solved. If I could do that with hair loss I wouldn't be here. I'd solve the problem and move on. But, you can't.
People who assume they know whats best for other people tend to be obnoxious.

 

[uncomfortable man]

So what you are saying is I should stop caring? As if I could just change the way I feel like changing a light bulb? Do you see me telling you how to feel about sh*t in your life buddy?

I get really sick of people on this forum telling other people what should and shouldn't bother them, especially when I read "Well, I don't let my baldness bother me...". Its just incredibly silly. If baldness doesn't bother you, why in the hell are you on an internet forum for hairloss???? It makes no sense. If you're here, it bothers you, period. To this they say, "Well, I'm only here to learn about treatments." If you're interested in treatments, you're interested in not going bald because it bothers you.
"If hair loss is your biggest problem than you're really lucky or your priorities are all messed up." Why should statements like this be true? If I have other problems, in my life, I can solve them. A few years ago, I wasn't doing so well. My life wasn't going anywhere. So I worked hard, put it in a ton of applications, and got myself a job. Problem solved. If I could do that with hair loss I wouldn't be here. I'd solve the problem and move on. But, you can't.
People who assume they know whats best for other people tend to be obnoxious.

:bravo: :agree:

 

[Route66]

If I was a NW6+, and I absolutely couldn't accept it (which is understandable), I'd look at these 3 options, in this order:

1 - hair transplant - OK, you wouldn't get a full head of hair back, but a world class surgeon may be able to give you a satisfactory result, though it would, obviously, be time consuming, and expensive. Also, if you have a lot of thick body hair, you could use that as well. A hair transplant is always a risk, especially for someone with severe hair loss, but, for the moment, it's the ONLY way you can have 'real' hair again!

2 - A quality piece - This is, probably, the most realistic option, and you could consider it a temporary solution, until HM is available.

3 - A head tattoo - Yes, seriously. I don't have a link, but it is possible to have your head tattooed, so that it looks like a NW1 buzzed down to #1, or #2! In fact, someone posted a link to a company that does this somewhere on the forum, but I don't know who, or what the thread was called. There are a number of companies that do it, though. It looks surprisingly realistic, actually, lasts a few years and it's pretty cheap (a few hundred dollars). Again, you could consider this a temporary solution.

Hope this helps.

 

[Route66]

This is all assuming that meds are no longer an option, of course!

 

[uncomfortable man]

Option #3 is the Vin Diesel way I think. (talked about that in another thread) I was under the assumption that tattoos were permanent but if you think about it it would be better if it weren't as tattoos bleed over time and what at first would actually pass for stubble would eventually become a strange blob on top of your head. Post a link for that if you could. I actually like the sound of that option although I wonder if it can do long term damage that would negate future treatment. And thanks Route 666 for contributing some actual constructive input, unlike ThisBlows who you would think by his name would be a little more understanding.

 

[uncomfortable man]

Looked into option #3, lets just say it is not viable. :shakehead: But I appreciate the effort man, thanks. Look in the Vin Diesel thread if you want to know why.

 

[Route66]

Hi.. new to this sight and guess what! Im LOSING MY FREAKIN HAIR! Since the ripe old age of 16 after i bleached it.... i've had my suspicions this was the catlyst of my demise, although i am now skeptical due to all of the so called "professionals" saying its nonsince.

Ok. Its sh*t for me because i would usually be ok with change, but i just cant get my head around this. I've lived for nearly 3 fking years looking in the mirror wondering why me (who has super reinforced genetics preventing hair loss) It has just taken ownership of me. It's not that im going bald as such, its that i was previously a very humble and friendly individual whom was reasonably good looking... now im a pale ugly *** balding douche.

My hair has allways been blonde and fine, but i had alot of it... over time its just gone to sh.t.. I dont know how all my associates and firends will react... i fear it and their looks of pity. Christ i dont ask for much... but taking away a man's beauty is a real kick in the teeth.

I've only just posted beacuase it is slowly getting worse... i now see like 50 hairs drop after i wet it... Guys, i respect you all because you can empathise... Please help me... im frantic and i don't know what do do as there is no prevelent cure to this stupid, pointless uphill battle which only a minority can understand.

oh.. i'll pump out some pics soon..

My sympathy is gone for you. Harden up.

:thumbdown2:

I've found that thread. These companies don't seem unethical, to be honest!

step 1 would be to get a 'less is more' type transplant where your weak NW7 diffuse donor is sprinkled all over your head - something along the lines of this

example here: [this guy is even a norwood 8, if that exists]

http://www.hairsite.com/hair-l...time-category-2.html

step 2, would be to go to a studio such as this, where they tattoo fake stubble using micropigmentation onto men's heads; now the results are not good for these guys, IMO, because if a girl feels their head, there will not be stubble there; however, these guys havent gone through step 1, to get light stubble on their head

example of such a studio, with pics

http://www.histudio.co.uk/
http://www.smudge-free.co.uk/procedures-alopecia.html

with the combination of such a low density transplant as shown in step 1, and the micropigment tattoos underneath the thin transplant giving it a kind of a shadow as shown in step 2, it seems that it would look like a normal shaved head; you might look like a neonazi, but having that stubble underneath makes all the difference in not looking like an egghead

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i think this actually might look good, for a vin diesel type look; ive thought about it, and it sounds crazy, but why wouldnt it work? im usually too optimistic about my insane ideas though, so someone more reasonable explain to me the shortcomings

 

[powersam]

So what you are saying is I should stop caring? As if I could just change the way I feel like changing a light bulb? Do you see me telling you how to feel about sh*t in your life buddy?

not that you should stop caring, just that maybe you should re-assess your priorities. focus on appreciating what is good in your life rather than obsessing about what isn't so great. i hate the fact that i am losing my hair but i have never had the thought 'i dont want to live like this' in conjunction to hair loss....

hair loss sucks. i hate the fact that i am losing my hair. but i am still nw2ish so it is still semi concealable i suppose. who knows how i'll feel at nw5.

I still think premature baldness should be an insurance covered condition though. ie/ nw3 onward in the teens to twenties.

how old are you uncomfortable man?