Going To Sound Crazy - But I Want To Attempt Finasteride Again At Low Dose.

buckthorn

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honestly i'm surprised that more finasteride users don't suffer from Telogen Effluvium due to the changes it makes to your hormonal profile. how did yours manifest itself Buck? was the thinning mostly on top of the scalp? the itching and burning sensation is a very strange symptom though. are you sure that was from the dht blocker?

what have you used to maintain since then? just ru and minoxidil?

I've had Telogen Effluvium three times, and every time, the exact same thing happens. I get pin point burning in the left hair line area (exact same spot every time) and get crawling in the crown. Like an ant under my scalp crawling from the middle to the right then down the side. Super f*****g mysterious. I have no idea why. I had this after my transplant. I had it after leg surgery and I had it exactly three months after starting finasteride.

I am done with RU man. I've been using it for the last year, and my hair has continued to go downhill quick. IMO, trying to elminate any bias, I think it's garbage.

Just minoxidil. I've been dermarolling with it and applying it three times a day for the last couple months. And, supplements.
 

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crazy! sounds like an awful sensation. do you think the loss of density might be largely due to a Telogen Effluvium that your body never truly recovered from?
 

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crazy! sounds like an awful sensation. do you think the loss of density might be largely due to a Telogen Effluvium that your body never truly recovered from?

yeah, I think so maybe. Perhaps I got Telogen Effluvium from starting finasteride in Feb of 2015, Then Telogen Effluvium from quitting finasteride in Feb of 2016... what a f*****g mess. I'm fucked man. It's over.
 

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Telogen Effluvium is always reversible though right?

not always, it can become chronic... also, in certain people, after it's triggered once, it can be very easily triggered again. Telogen Effluvium is a f*****g b**ch man. Me and my older bro have like IDENTICAL genetics in every way... the exact same hair loss pattern, down to the square centimeter. Well, he currently has twice as much hair as me, while three years ago I had more than him. Telogen Effluvium alone has sent my goddamn hair ten years into the future.
 

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Titration is the way to go, Bucky!

by titration, you mean gradually building it up in your system little by little and increasing dose over time? Makes sense man. I don't understand why everyone doesn't take finasteride this way.
 

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by titration, you mean gradually building it up in your system little by little and increasing dose over time? Makes sense man. I don't understand why everyone doesn't take finasteride this way.

Yes! It was the best thing I could have done to myself. And for us alcoholics, there's a plus: use a strong spirit to make your finn solution, then have another excuse for a shot ;)

I can't even imagine what would be like to start straight to normal range doses. It makes me think that guys like @antydhtor are wonders of nature!
 

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If you try this method, start really low. Like, really low. Don't underestimate your threshold. When I started I committed myself to spend about a month taking what I thought was irrationally bullshit low doses. Plot twist: 10 days later I was undoubtedly feeling it. HUGE libido spike and oily forehead. Dude, I'm already a ultra-high libido type of person. That was no joke. My girlfriend had a good extra amount of '' work'' to deal with for some weeks. My horniness was almost disturbing. Oh, watery jizz came really fast too.

Anyways, going step-by-step it's much easier to deal with sides. You got a new one, wait some days, it subsides. Then one more step. Repeat till you find your sweet spot.
 

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There is hope. It's on a show called FANTASY ISLAND. There, you can talk to
Tatoo and Mr. Rourke.



They have a great reputation restoring hair.

Just ask for Tatoo! He's right in the picture, and a former patient himself!
 

buckthorn

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If you try this method, start really low. Like, really low. Don't underestimate your threshold. When I started I committed myself to spend about a month taking what I thought was irrationally bullshit low doses. Plot twist: 10 days later I was undoubtedly feeling it. HUGE libido spike and oily forehead. Dude, I'm already a ultra-high libido type of person. That was no joke. My girlfriend had a good extra amount of '' work'' to deal with for some weeks. My horniness was almost disturbing. Oh, watery jizz came really fast too.

Anyways, going step-by-step it's much easier to deal with sides. You got a new one, wait some days, it subsides. Then one more step. Repeat till you find your sweet spot.

dude, you sound a lot like me, and my response to finasteride. Please, I need to ask you a few questions.

1) is finasteride working for you now? maintaining? regrowing?
2) Did you start off at a regular dose initially? did this cause a spike in T and how did this affect your hair?
3) what dosage are you taking now?
4) do you think you ever got Telogen Effluvium from finasteride?

Thanks for the input man. I'm dying here. the more info you can give me the better.
 

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dude, you sound a lot like me, and my response to finasteride. Please, I need to ask you a few questions.

1) is finasteride working for you now? maintaining? regrowing?
2) Did you start off at a regular dose initially? did this cause a spike in T and how did this affect your hair?
3) what dosage are you taking now?
4) do you think you ever got Telogen Effluvium from finasteride?

Thanks for the input man. I'm dying here. the more info you can give me the better.

Hey, Bucky!

1) I'm hitting the 4 month mark today, so it's a bit early for that assessment. But let me tell you: I started getting optimistic a few days/weeks ago because of some impressions. I realized a smoother feeling when touching my scalp with my fingertips. I realized the same thing in the bare areas of my temples, and it seems like the population of small, miniaturizing hairs are being able to kind of....''catch a breath''. I don't want to anticipate myself, but I'm thinking that I'm really starting to get some response from those. Besides that, my last itching episode was right after starting finn. For me, the itch always came in waves. It's weird, but I feel like my scalp is more....peaceful lol . Anyways, let's wait some more months. It's obviously wiser to wait some more before answering that question!

2) I made a 1% solution and started taking only some drops a day. Like homeopathic-bullshit doses. My intention was to desensitize unconscious bias, tame anxiety... I wasn't really expecting nothing when I realized I was definitely feeling initial effects, which was a BIG surprise for me. That sh*t is active in very low doses, and note that I'm very very very far from being hypochondriac or especially susceptible to drug-induced sides. I mean, I'm a veteran of recreational drug (ab)use and the kind of guy that really isn't prone to psychological side effects and sh*t. As I said, after 10 days I was uncontrollably horny, f*****g like a meth-fueled rabbit, my forehead got oily and my jizz watery. Besides that, I didn't get hair effects.

3) Now I'm oscillating between 0.2 - 0.25 mg ED. It's amazing the difference that 0.05mg do for me. At 0.25 I'm getting some tingling in my left nipple, which I do not get at 0.2 mg.

4) No T.E for me.

I'm waiting a bit more before opening a log here, but I promise I'll give a very detailed account. I have much more to say about my experience so far!


Please don't change your avatar, no matter what you do.

In fact, I want to be known as the human vagina, from now on.

Hahahah thanks man, rest assured! Although we have some grumpy humorless bitter egg-heads here that feel offended by that humble little blood-stained creature :p
 

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Hey, Bucky!

1) I'm hitting the 4 month mark today, so it's a bit early for that assessment. But let me tell you: I started getting optimistic a few days/weeks ago because of some impressions. I realized a smoother feeling when touching my scalp with my fingertips. I realized the same thing in the bare areas of my temples, and it seems like the population of small, miniaturizing hairs are being able to kind of....''catch a breath''. I don't want to anticipate myself, but I'm thinking that I'm really starting to get some response from those. Besides that, my last itching episode was right after starting finn. For me, the itch always came in waves. It's weird, but I feel like my scalp is more....peaceful lol . Anyways, let's wait some more months. It's obviously wiser to wait some more before answering that question!

2) I made a 1% solution and started taking only some drops a day. Like homeopathic-bullshit doses. My intention was to desensitize unconscious bias, tame anxiety... I wasn't really expecting nothing when I realized I was definitely feeling initial effects, which was a BIG surprise for me. That sh*t is active in very low doses, and note that I'm very very very far from being hypochondriac or especially susceptible to drug-induced sides. I mean, I'm a veteran of recreational drug (ab)use and the kind of guy that really isn't prone to psychological side effects and sh*t. As I said, after 10 days I was uncontrollably horny, f*****g like a meth-fueled rabbit, my forehead got oily and my jizz watery. Besides that, I didn't get hair effects.

3) Now I'm oscillating between 0.2 - 0.25 mg ED. It's amazing the difference that 0.05mg do for me. At 0.25 I'm getting some tingling in my left nipple, which I do not get at 0.2 mg.

4) No T.E for me.

I'm waiting a bit more before opening a log here, but I promise I'll give a very detailed account. I have much more to say about my experience so far!




Hahahah thanks man, rest assured! Although we have some grumpy humorless bitter egg-heads here that feel offended by that humble little blood-stained creature :p

I'm worried already man. I just started like .1mg eod just four days ago... and I am already getting the oily forehead back. also tingling in my crown again. Goddamnit man, I am so sensitive to this sh*t. Should I just give it up for good? I think I am just going to attempt even less. :/
 

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I'm worried already man. I just started like .1mg eod just four days ago... and I am already getting the oily forehead back. also tingling in my crown again. Goddamnit man, I am so sensitive to this sh*t. Should I just give it up for good? I think I am just going to attempt even less. :/

Cut the dose below the saturation point, which is around 0.06 mg.

Try 0.01 and 0.03 mg.
 

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Cut the dose below the saturation point, which is around 0.06 mg.

Try 0.01 and 0.03 mg.

Exactly. I totally agree. No need to take hasty decisions, Bucky. You already had an awful experience with finasteride, take it easy. I think you should stay at the range David suggested for some weeks first. Maybe some months. You'll be doing something, it's much better than doing nothing. Think about flying the lowest possible and monitor sides, and only increase dose after they subside.
 

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I'm worried already man. I just started like .1mg eod just four days ago... and I am already getting the oily forehead back. also tingling in my crown again. Goddamnit man, I am so sensitive to this sh*t. Should I just give it up for good? I think I am just going to attempt even less. :/

Think you should stick with it. Why not? If you are already losing a lot of ground, it probably can't hurt.

Unless you think you're gonna have some serious side effects.

Do you think you'll have any gains?
 

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Just take 1 mg of finasteride and put it in 50ml of vodka and now every ml of solution is .01ml of finasteride. Play with the doses. Crush the pill then mix in solution.
 
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