Fine hair vs thinning hair?

WR1981

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So I just got a haircut, and almost every time I get one, my paranoia goes into overdrive. When people talk about their "fine" hair, I get very annoyed because mine is akin to the wispy hair you see on small children. It's like cobweb so there's almost no comparison to the complainers with allegedly fine hair.

I'm 32 and I have maintained my juvenile hairline, but some hairdressers will say "you hair is thin" or "your hair is thin in the front" while others say "It's not thinning, it's just super fine with low density." I never paid attention to it this much until last year when a moron at a cheap hair cuttery misunderstood my request, turned me away from the mirror in my chair, and buzzed me clean. It essentially triggered extreme compulsive grooming and mirror peaking, etc. to see if I was in fact losing it. So all and all, I cannot tell if it's just fine or thinning. I hate looking at younger pictures because the hair *looks* fuller but it was also longer and styled differently. Additionally, when you have super fine blonde hair like mine, it is normal to see lots of scalp? Strangely enough, my hair looks 100% normal after a shower. There's no part widening or visible vertex thinning. Also, I shed very very little, there's very little in my brush. Would love a little feedback.

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talmoode

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Would you be able to post some pictures of your hair line (pulled back and combed down) and of hair on top and back for people to see if it's thinning or not?
 

WR1981

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Hi, these are the best I can do for now. 3rd one is December after it grew back. Other 2 are from early last year.

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talmoode

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If your hair has been like that since forever, then maybe that's just how your hair is. But if I saw you on the street, I would think you were balding. I guess after all you know your hair better than anyone else and it doesn't matter what others think if you don't think you are thinning/balding!
 

WR1981

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Thanks talmoode. I *think* it's always been like that. Never paid too much attention till the shearing disaster. I can't gel it or anything because it's not bulky enough and standing straight up, it's completely translucent/scalpy. I started using medicated shampoo last week to shuck up all the oil and it's looking fuller since (if I don't wash it once or even twice daily, it's absolutely disgusting).
 

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Thanks talmoode. I *think* it's always been like that. Never paid too much attention till the shearing disaster. I can't gel it or anything because it's not bulky enough and standing straight up, it's completely translucent/scalpy. I started using medicated shampoo last week to shuck up all the oil and it's looking fuller since (if I don't wash it once or even twice daily, it's absolutely disgusting).

Good to hear that your hair looks fuller now with the help with that medicated shampoo!! Actually my best friend has hair like yours. I've know him since we were 13 -14 years old and he has always had that thinning looking hair! He was the one of the most popular guys among boys and girls!
 

WR1981

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Ha, thanks Talmoode! :) It was actually stuff from a salon with mint and salicylic acid. It is the ONLY thing I've ever used that got rid of scalp shine (although I probably shouldn't use it daily because in this heat it actually causes a stinging and irritated sensation.)

Endlesswheel, I know what you mean, but I was born with two sharp edges and a fairly low dipping widow's peak. Will need to photograph my pic with the neonates so you can see. Strangely, it never budged though, not even at puberty. However, the texture is feathery and the density of the hair is low, you can't even grip it into a handful.
 

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I posted on another thread about my hair becoming very fine after I turned 50. On top of that I'm going bald but I can cover most of that up. For a long time I've worn my hair "longish" covering part of my forehead. I hate that swept back look which does not work with fine straight hair.

My suggestion would be to let it grow out and let it cover more of your forehead and it my appear thicker as it grows out.

Barbers can't cut straight fine hair without butchering and in the end it's "oops...". Unless you perm it that may be your best option.
 

WR1981

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I posted on another thread about my hair becoming very fine after I turned 50. On top of that I'm going bald but I can cover most of that up. For a long time I've worn my hair "longish" covering part of my forehead. I hate that swept back look which does not work with fine straight hair.

My suggestion would be to let it grow out and let it cover more of your forehead and it my appear thicker as it grows out.

Barbers can't cut straight fine hair without butchering and in the end it's "oops...". Unless you perm it that may be your best option.


Hi Sam,

Yes it's very hard to make my thin, fine hair look fuller. I agree having it swept back makes it look see-through. And I find most those cheap hairy cutteries make it look worse because they don't know what they're doing. "Perming" is not an option as my hair would disintegrate if I did that.

As for the thin vs "thinning" question, it's difficult for me to tell. I *think* it's been the same as it always was (I'm now 32). Nevertheless, only time will tell. My hair genetics are not good -- dad and his brother are both bald (with same color as mine) and so was their father. My mom's dad kept his hair till he passed at 83 through it was extremely wispy-fine like mine, but black. Mom's male cousins and her uncles are/were all bald or thinning.

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Here are two more quick questions on the topic -- 1. Do you find your hair looks better/fuller when wet or dry. (Strangely, mine is the former.) 2. Is early Androgenetic Alopecia necessarily accompanied by more "shedding" than normal to make you notice? I have minimal daily shedding and leave none in my comb and only a couple in the brush.
 

Sam07

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Hi Sam,

Here are two more quick questions on the topic -- 1. Do you find your hair looks better/fuller when wet or dry. (Strangely, mine is the former.) 2. Is early Androgenetic Alopecia necessarily accompanied by more "shedding" than normal to make you notice? I have minimal daily shedding and leave none in my comb and only a couple in the brush.

(1) Now that I am definitely balding my hair looks much better dry.

(2) I never noticed the hair loss because there were so many good hairs mixed in with the not so good hairs. It may not be that all the good hair turned bad but there was a mixture of good and bad and all the good strong hair fell out leaving just the not so good hair. If you have no balding areas when your hair is wet then it's probably just thin fine hair. Check for a receding hairline to be sure.
 

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Hi Sam,
Thanks fpor the reply. No my hairline is completely intact.

So you're saying that you never experienced a shedding problem? I've heard mixed responses, both yes and no. One of my best friends a few years back went on a crash diet over the summer and shed 40 lbs or so. By the fall, his hair was falling out like crazy. He thought he was balding but by the new year it completely stopped. Today, still no male pattern baldness. Still though, I think telogen effluvium is not as common in men, as the overwhelming majority of our hair loss is Androgenetic Alopecia.
 

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I went through some extreme dieting myself but it stopped more than 6 months ago, so throw that into the mix. It probably accelerated my male pattern baldness so I don't see those lost hairs coming back.

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Hi Sam,
So you're saying that you never experienced a shedding problem?

There's definitely been shedding but I only gauge that through seeing my hairs dissapearing on top but I almost never see the shedded hairs.
 
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