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So long Hair

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HairLossTalk.com,

After reading the announcement topic entitled "Everybody Check This Out" at the top of this message board, I can't help but ask you this- How much are they paying you?
 

HairlossTalk

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Oh look! Someone's mommy never taught them tact! :D

Ask your boss how much he or she makes next time you see them. Tell me what they say.

I have a feeling it will start with "None" and end with "business".

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misterium

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LMAO

Ask a random lady on the street how old she is.

:D
 

Temples

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IwantMyhair, who's that in your avatar? I want to hump little green-haired fairies too!
 

misterium

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I don't know who it is..

I think it's green haired fairy.
 

Temples

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She's hot. Does she have a boyfriend?
 

HairlossTalk

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So long said:
I think you both know what I was implying.
Well be a man and say what you're implying then. Don't hide it. Or are you afraid to be completely drilled into the ground and told how ridiculous your assumption is?

Be sure to read up on "Being Paid to Provide a Service 101" before you do... And when you get to work, make sure you tell your boss you don't think its ethical that you be compensated for providing good solid hard work that helps people.

Then you can explain what you're implying above without looking inconsistent. :)

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bombscience

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Hey have you ever thought of Google Adsense as a revenue generating system for this site? It works suprisingly well and you can make some serioius money with it. I'm pretty sure you could filter any of the avacor links that advertisers might pay for. Either way I know people that are making over $1000 a day on free content just using adsense.
 

HairlossTalk

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bombscience said:
Hey have you ever thought of Google Adsense as a revenue generating system for this site? It works suprisingly well and you can make some serioius money with it. I'm pretty sure you could filter any of the avacor links that advertisers might pay for. Either way I know people that are making over $1000 a day on free content just using adsense.
Yea we had that running on these very forums for a month or so. Also on the regular site. Same problem you run into with everyone, and this actually responds, indirectly, do ding dong above with his off-color comment :)

... the Google Adwords system is full of snake oil ads. When you filter them out, you're left with ... surprise... Propecia ads.

There just plain are not any advertisers in this industry that we can use as sponsors. The only two potentials are Propecia and Rogaine. Everyone else is advertising something we don't think works for hair loss. So I can't ethically let it be on this site. I need to be consistent with my standards.

When we had it running, 2 out of every 3 ads was Procerin, Hair Genesis, Avacor, or buy Propecia for $200 per month. Same old junk. People trying to sell stuff that does not work, or trying to rip people off. I love humanity. They have a filter option to filter out unwanted ads, and mine ended up being litearlly 50 URL's long. That left me with... you guessed it ... Propecia ads. When you've got 9,000 propecia ads running simultaneously on the site with no variation in them, people just stop clicking.

So we're back to square one. There just aren't enough NON-CROOKS in this industry to sustain an information site on advertising alone. Even Bosley, which is now doing good quality hair transplants still has a stigma from the past, and if we were to advertise them, people would roar in opposition. So we're left with Merck/Propecia. And Rogaine ... but they're not spending any money to advertise these days.

Sometimes I do wish I ran a site like ... a DVD authoring site ... or electronics. Then there would be millions of possible sponsors. Sony, Toshiba, Samsung, etc. We could build the site up a million times faster because the income would be coming in to pay for programmers and designers to do it. Not the case with hair loss, unfortunately.

The only alternative is providing exposure to private practice Transplant doctors, and you've got sites like the Hair Transplant Network and Spencer's duplication of it that are already bleeding all the money out of them for that very thing.

That is why Merck is our only current sponsor. Not whatever ding dong above was going to try and imply.

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So long Hair

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HairlossTalk said:
So long said:
I think you both know what I was implying.
Well be a man and say what you're implying then. Don't hide it. Or are you afraid to be completely drilled into the ground and told how ridiculous your assumption is?

Be sure to read up on "Being Paid to Provide a Service 101" before you do... And when you get to work, make sure you tell your boss you don't think its ethical that you be compensated for providing good solid hard work that helps people.

Then you can explain what you're implying above without looking inconsistent. :)

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Okay, I'll be frank. In the "Who want to be a Moderator" thread, one of the required skills you state is "to be able to detect an advertisement for a product even if it looks like a legitimate post".
Then, in the thread direcly below, this required skill is not only completely ignored, but completely ignored by the person who stated it......You. Seems a little hypocritical, don't you think?

So my assumption is that you may very well be getting paid to advetise Propecia and I just think that makes your high regards for the drug highly questionable.
 

Axon

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So why is his high regard for a proven treatment questionable, in your opinion?

HairLossTalk.com dissuades ads like Avacor, Procerin and RK 19. We frequently talk about the FDA approved drugs, as well as some of the "end-user" proven ones, like spironolactone, Revivogen, Nizoral...

There's nothing hypocritical about HairLossTalk.com. The guy could make a killing on this site with all the hits it gets. It's what, #1, #2 of the hair loss forums? He chooses not to. He chooses to support the products that are proven and that he believes in.

So if you're trying to say that we're a little more bias towards the "big three" than the usual internet whiny board, yeah, that's accurate. If you said that we come across as holier-than-thou whenever we hear someone claiming that rubbing beer and olive oil into their head grows hair, yeah, that's the tone of this board.

But hypocritical? Can't agree. HairLossTalk.com makes no bones about what products he supports and recommends and what products he does not. As for who, if any, pays him for ad space, that's something I'll leave to him for commentary on.
 

HairlossTalk

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So long said:
Okay, I'll be frank.
I'd rather you be intelligent.

So long said:
In the "Who want to be a Moderator" thread, one of the required skills you state is "to be able to detect an advertisement for a product even if it looks like a legitimate post".
This is in regards to the membership agreement that nobody owning a website, and seeking to get free advertising, is allowed to post here to promote their own product. External business owners seeking to illigitimately advertise, lie about their identity, and try to get free plugs for their product or service. This is what its referring to.

Did you bother reading my post above in regards to Google ads? You seem to have completely glazed over it. The answer to all your questions exists right there.

solonghair said:
Then, in the thread direcly below, this required skill is not only completely ignored, but completely ignored by the person who stated it......You. Seems a little hypocritical, don't you think?
Again, this is referring to external advertisers. Obviously, if we have a sponsor on the site, we will promote them, because we believe in their product.

I have turned down more money than you have made in the last 10 years, because I did not believe in the products. You don't think Avacor, Hair Genesis, Fabao, and literally 70 others are banging down my door, BEGGING to be on this site, and offering me $1,000 a month to do so? Tomorrow I could increase my personal income by over $30,000 a month. Tomorrow! But I turn it all down because I don't believe their products have any science backing them. In fact I loathe these companies because I believe they harm consumers.

Tell me ... do you have the integrity to turn down that much money based solely on your principles?

You have a 500 page website full of proof that I don't sell out to anyone. Read it, and then leave. Please.

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