Experiment with my Dad...

[WS6-TA]

Hi,

I am fighting hair loss that i have inheirited from my father. I am 22 and my father is 46, we share many similitaries, like, same hair texture, colour and balding pattern. He is about a norwood 4. I am maintaing a NW2.

He has never considered any type of hair restoration remedy. I want to get him on a regimen, so i can guage how successful i will be. Without propecia what would be the best all topical regimen.
i am thinking of giving him:

-minoxidil 5% (2x daily)
-spironolactone 5% (2x daily)
-nizoral
-Some type of copper peptides

I think this will help me out. I am only using finasteride/nizoral/and spironolactone right now. But if i see improvenments on my father i will try out minoxidil in the future.

This will also be able to provide some info as to how much can be restored when starting an completly bals skin. I am hoping to see improvements in the vertex and rear od the head. Frontal hair is much to hard to regrow.

I am still trying to convince him. But if this goes through i will be taking monthly photos to gauge success.

Just an idea i though could help us young guys...

Any suggestions?

 

[Follically Challenged]

My advice is to use minoxidil because who cares if it works on your dad or not....It works!

I'd like to see you try spironolactone on him.

 

[WS6-TA]

i am happy maintaing right now. If i see a great increase on my father with minoxidil, i will feel alot better if/when my situation worsens. im saving the monox as a last resort. Also i might have a hair transplant done on the hairline/temples. Seeing what can be re-grown will help dertemine how aggressive i will go.

 

[CCS]

good luck getting your father to start. I highly doubt anyone can get a parent to start a regimen, unless he just got divorced.

 

[mvpsoft]

Keep in mind that any hair lost more than three years ago will not be regrown by any known regimen.

 

[Solo]

Punish the old guy!!!


Make him drink the minoxidil!!
:lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[beaner]

Keep in mind that any hair lost more than three years ago will not be regrown by any known regimen.

I would have to strongly disagree with that statement. I'm currently regrowing temple hair I lost about 7-8 years ago, and hair on my crown I lost maybe 5 years ago....and everything is still coming in nicely. I think when I reach the pinnacle of what my regimen can do for me, I will be back where I was 10 years ago or better.

 

[techprof]

you can do this for your dad.
apply azelaic acid and see what happens. We will know if what Dr. Lee claims is true.

 

[CCS]

yeah! test the azelaic acid for us! maybe just apply it to once side of your head, whichever one of you does not use minoxidil, so we know it did not just increase minoxidil absorption.

 

[mvpsoft]

Keep in mind that any hair lost more than three years ago will not be regrown by any known regimen.

I would have to strongly disagree with that statement. I'm currently regrowing temple hair I lost about 7-8 years ago, and hair on my crown I lost maybe 5 years ago....and everything is still coming in nicely. I think when I reach the pinnacle of what my regimen can do for me, I will be back where I was 10 years ago or better.

Fibrosis sets in at about three years, there is currently no treatment other than a transplant that will grow hair post-fibrosis. The hair you are growing was not lost 7-8 years ago. It might be on an area on which you lost hair 7-8 years ago, but the hairs that are regrowing from that area was lost much later than that. The area has not been slick bald for 7-8 years.

 

[CCS]

do we know how soon fibrosis sets in? is it known that it is 3 years? 3 years after being slick bald?

 

[tembo]

I never understood this fibrosis business.

minoxidil causes vellous body hair to turn terminal.

Why can't vellous scalp hair become terminal even if it has been vellous as a result of balding for 20 years?!

Or does fibrosis mean something even worse than hair turning vellous from being terminal?

 

[CCS]

Loreal says fibrosis happens constantly while the follicle shrinks. Other conservative definitions say fibrosis permenantly kills the follicle after the skin has been slick 3 years, though beaner says he regrow hair from scalp that was slick 6 years.

Minoxidil makes vellus hairs grow to terminal size, but if you stop, they can fall out in weeks and come back at their old vellus size. SODs actually reverse the damage, so that you actually get terminal hairs, and androgen inhibitors can actually maintain them (I think). Unlike with minoxidil, you can cut back on SODs later when the damage is repaired, according to Dr Proctor. But even his best SODs might not regrow hair from slick scalp on many people. SODs are the most powerful allie to bald men who want to regrow, but they still have some needed improvement to be made. To completely stop futher thinning, and get some easy regrowth, you need topical 5ar blockers and topical androgen receptor blockers, in addition to internal 5ar blockers.