Ok this was worthy of its own thread.. Basic rundown... was on S5 cream + minoxidil + nizoral for 10 years (and other things off and on), maintaining well. Stopped S5 because they stopped making it, bought the "alternative" water spray. Started shedding bad. Chinese S5 cream came out, bought that, never stopped shedding after 8 grueling months. Switched to essengen 6 2x a day from minoxidil max (topical finasteride + minoxidil). Shedding stopped within a couple weeks, and regrew everything from the previous 8 month shed. I keep looking at pics from last Summer until Christmas, and there is no doubt now, my hair was really bad, and now it looks freaking awesome. The wife and barber even noticed. She grabbed a handful of hair and said "your hair feels THICK." Check it out. Looking like 2009 up in here. Doesn't even look like the same head! Going on 35... noticed at 22 and thought I would be NW7 by now. Check out my other threads if you want to see how my regimen has evolved over the years and how I was basically a human experiment. 12 years in now, doing great so far.