dutasteride study here

[Dogs3]

anyone who hasnt seen this should take a look, Bryan posted this study showing how during clinical trials the frontal hair BENEFITED from dutasteride. so any conspiracy theories that dutasteride trials were stopped for frontal loss reasons can be put to rest.


http://www.hairlosshelp.com/forums/...&threadid=65200&FTVAR_MSGDBTABLE=&STARTPAGE=2

 

[OverMachoGrande]

Thanks, I never saw that one.

 

[Dogs3]

yeah no problem. It really should put any fears that dutasteride ruins the front to rest. On the contrary, it helped quite a bit...Im glad i found it too, I just started taking dutasteride today. Im going with EOD in combo with 1mg finasteride ED.

By the way, has avodart done anything for you skin one way or the other? Or no real effect?

 

[OverMachoGrande]

I have been alternating the two for 6 month's now. My skin is more dry than when I started but not sure if it is the dutasteride or not. I just started noticing my hair is a little more brittle though.

 

[Dogs3]

i see all those people who claim dutasteride "ATE MY HAIRLINE!!" aren't responding to this one. Now i guess those people will have to shut their mouths. This is solid proof that dutasteride worked BETTER than propecia in the front of the head. And increased hair counts.

If you lost hair while on dutasteride its obvious you would have anyway and dutasteride prbably simply slowed it down.

 

[OverMachoGrande]

I agree. Im my case I did lose some hair but now it's growing in on the hairline thicker than before. Great find Dogs3. Hopefully others will post here as well. Continued success to you.

 

[Dogs3]

hey man, you too. Plus its still really early for you so it should thicken even more, good luck

 

[el_duterino]

dutasteride reduces DHT overall and works for the hairline too, but the front is where the most DHT sensitive follicules are, so it might not be enough if the hair loss is very aggressive.
I would add FLUTAGEL (Flutamide topical) for the front. My sense is that reducing 90 or 95% of serum DHT and 50% (or more) scalp DHT might not be sufficient for all areas although it is a good "base" for diffuse thinning.

I am using dutasteride and Flutagel and have seen good success sor far.
I have taken some pics of the hairline that shows improvement, which is thickening of exisiting hair. No new hair will grow though.

El Duternio

 

[Cassin]

interesting

 

[medmax84]

i see all those people who claim dutasteride "ATE MY HAIRLINE!!" aren't responding to this one. Now i guess those people will have to shut their mouths. This is solid proof that dutasteride worked BETTER than propecia in the front of the head. And increased hair counts.

If you lost hair while on dutasteride its obvious you would have anyway and dutasteride prbably simply slowed it down.

This is faulty logic. You can't possibly be arrogant enough to think that your results disprove others. Even though the vast majority of finasteride users responded well to treatment, there was still a significant minority of non-responders and an even smaller group that had finasteride exacerbate their hair loss.

Do you think that dutasteride doesn't fall prey to the same normal bell curve of responders and non-responders?

 

[Bryan]

Even though the vast majority of finasteride users responded well to treatment, there was still a significant minority of non-responders and an even smaller group that had finasteride exacerbate their hair loss.

Are you saying that there were SCIENTIFIC STUDIES that found that finasteride supposedly exacerbated the hair loss in some users?? If so, name one of them. I've never seen a single one make such a claim. Sure, there were finasteride users who got worse, but those would all fall into the category of "non-responders".

 

[medmax84]

Even though the vast majority of finasteride users responded well to treatment, there was still a significant minority of non-responders and an even smaller group that had finasteride exacerbate their hair loss.

Are you saying that there were SCIENTIFIC STUDIES that found that finasteride supposedly exacerbated the hair loss in some users?? If so, name one of them. I've never seen a single one make such a claim. Sure, there were finasteride users who got worse, but those would all fall into the category of "non-responders".

Would they? Have you seen all of the non-responders? Can't reflex hyperandrogenicity contribute to hairloss?

 

[Bryan]

Sure, we hear a lot about non-responders on hairloss forums like this one, but those guys tend to be more vociferous than the majority who respond favorably to the drug!

 

[Timi]

a new Report is in German Speak
http://www.haarerkrankungen.de/aktuelle ... d=20080806

Mittags folgte schließlich noch eine Sitzung zum Thema androgenetische Alopezie. Hier stellte Mike Philpott sehr interessante Untersuchungen zur vorzeitigen Alterung der dermalen Papille bei Männern mit Glatzenbildung vor. Es folgte Dominique van Neste aus Belgien, der beeindruckende Fotoserien zur guten Wirksamkeit der oralen Finasterid 1 mg Medikation bei männlicher Glatzenbildung vorstellte.

Asiatische Daten von Chang-Hun Huh zu Dutasterid und männlicher Glatzenbildung wurden sehr kontrovers diskutiert. Es gibt angesichts der guten Wirksamkeit von Finasterid 1 mg (Propecia®) keinen Grund, auf das nicht zugelassene und potenziell nebenwirkungsreichere Dutasterid auszuweichen. Schließlich folgten einige Beobachtungen von Carmen Cantisani zu der Langzeitwirkung von Finasterid bei Männern mit Glatzenbildung. Ihre 10 Jahresverläufe bestätigen auch eigene Beobachtungen, dass Finasterid 1 mg auch über 10 Jahre hinweg ohne Nebenwirkungen mit sehr gutem Ergebnis eingenommen werden kann

 

[medmax84]

Sure, we hear a lot about non-responders on hairloss forums like this one, but those guys tend to be more vociferous than the majority who respond favorably to the drug!

Absolutely! I just wanted to acknowledge that results may vary.

 

[Dogs3]

ok, yeah results may vary...but im not talking about my results..these are from a study showing that dutasteride did a better job than finasteride in haircounts in the front of the head...besides, i think you missed my point, im not saying that there arent non responders, im just sick of people saying that avodart wrecked their hairline when in fact avodart may simply not have helped, but most likely did not CAUSE their hair loss...its always the same posters anyway, they are a very vocal minority, i just thought id bring up some positive results to show them that avodart may not be at fault for their hair loss...thats a ridiculous statement, but some of these people need to hear it.

 

[medmax84]

ok, yeah results may vary...but im not talking about my results..these are from a study showing that dutasteride did a better job than finasteride in haircounts in the front of the head...besides, i think you missed my point, im not saying that there arent non responders, im just sick of people saying that avodart wrecked their hairline when in fact avodart may simply not have helped, but most likely did not CAUSE their hair loss...its always the same posters anyway, they are a very vocal minority, i just thought id bring up some positive results to show them that avodart may not be at fault for their hair loss...thats a ridiculous statement, but some of these people need to hear it.

I can understand your angle. I feel the same way about some of the reported sides that have nothing to do with finasteride's mode of action...