Dutasteride Mesotherapy Battle Group : Homer Simpson Edition

[UberBaldaten]

Greetings hairlets,

As you may have seen this study in previous thread https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5596657/

It implies fantastical results with minor time frame which is both ( possibly ) cheap and really effective.
Thus, I decided to create this thread for brainstorming ideas from members with more knowledge and testing.

The idea of this thread is:
- Find ways to create our own Dutasteride intradermal solution
- Find ways to possibly evade side effects
- Do group testing with before and after results ( optionally including tests from SHBG, Testosterone, DHT and Estrogen)
-Pray to our lord and savior Tsuji


First step is to make an injectable solution and not have to buy over internet dutasteride bottle and get it seized by customs.


Go.

 

[br1]

What can possibly go wrong......

 

[dermrafok]

What can possibly go wrong......

Current treatments have poor results, sides...That's why people want new treatments. Easy.

 

[UberBaldaten]

What can possibly go wrong......

Less wrong than taking Dutasteride every day for 2.5mg as some did.

 

[Bensson]

As I wrote in the other thread, mix the avodart capsule with saline or purified water and inject with hydra needle 20

http://www.aboutkidshealth.ca/En/He.../Normal-Saline-Solution-How-prepare-home.aspx

start with one per month for 6 month and then every second or third month

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HYDRA-Ne...529252?hash=item33d5a28224:g:s3IAAOSwr6RZpRnr

Nonmedicinal ingredients: butylated hydroxytoluene and mono-and di-glycerides of caprilic/capric acids. Capsule shell: gelatin (from certified, BSE-free, nonporcine sources), glycerin, iron oxide yellow, lecithin, medium chain triglycerides, purified water, titanium dioxide. Edible black ink: iron oxide black, isopropyl alcohol, N-butyl alcohol, propylene glycol, and shellac.

 

[Bensson]

Found some more info

This formula is indicated for Male Pattern Baldness

6cc syringe volume
4cc Biotin 10mg/ml
2cc Dutasteride 0.1mg/ml

Alternative 2
6cc syringe volume
2cc Biotin 10mg/ml
2cc Zinc 10mg/ml
2cc Dutasteride 0.1mg/ml

Injection Depth:1 – 4mm
Injection Spacing:1cm apart
Injection Amount:0.15 – 0.2cc per injection
Total Injected Volume:6 - 8cc

Procedure:
1.Disinfect area to be treated with appropriate solution.
2.Place the patient in the sitting position.
3.Draw up the required quantity of ingredients into the syringe using an 18G x 11/2 needle.
4.As required, fit the syringe in the pistol and connect the needle to the syringe.
5.Start injecting the solution using Nappage Method.
6.Position the needle at a tangent to the skin depending on its thinness over the scalp.

Treatment Schedule: Schedule treatments once per week for 4 weeks
Maintenance Schedule:Every 4-6weeks.

https://www.moncoinsante.co.uk/biot...able-i-m-6-ampoules-de-1ml-perte-cheveux.html

 

[Bensson]

Why wouldn't this cause side effects?

see my latest post, that is the formula they use in clinics

 

[Bensson]

The link didn't show me anything regarding dutas. Maybe I missed it?

We are not talking about sides here but to make the solution for mesotherapy

Probably some will have sides, same as with oral ...but they say its less chance with injection in scalp

 

[Jonnyyy]

Wow this is very interesting, if someone could make a video demonstrating the entire process that would help a lot. lol

 

[Bensson]

Wow this is very interesting, if someone could make a video demonstrating the entire process that would help a lot. lol

We are not building rockets here,

Buy the needle, dutasteride, biotin solution and zinc solution if you want, mix as above recipe and needle your scalp with the hydra needle once a month

If you already have the dutasteride capsules then its tot 10-15$ for the needle and biotin solution in total

I will order everything and start after new year

 

[paleocapa89]

Can someone pls explain me if topical finasteride and dutaseteride go systemic, how injecting dutasteride wont go systemic?

 

[Jonnyyy]

I got side effects on propecia, is it likely I'll get the same ones off this?

 

[UberBaldaten]

Can someone pls explain me if topical finasteride and dutaseteride go systemic, how injecting dutasteride wont go systemic?

I assume because Dutasteride has easier time reaching the tissue with 5ar enzyme, that most of it hits it in local tissue before reaching blood stream. The rest that does reach bloodstream, loses it's efficacy. Plus once in 3 months is low since Dutasteride has high lhalf life. And when it's already working on enzymes in scalp there's no need to shoot it more times than it is with finasteride.
With one dose there is no accumulation like you would have to do with finasteride either.
That's my theory.

 

[Bensson]

Ok, back to topic

Found some ready made solutions for mesotherapy that could be mixed with dutasteride

Hairloss ready mix:Biotin (vitamin B8),Thiamine Nitrate (vitamin B1),Riboflavin (vitamin B2),Niacin (vitamin B3),Dexpanthenol (vitamin B5),Pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B9),Folic acid (vitamin B9),Inositol (vitamin I)

http://www.mesoestetic.co.uk/mesohyal-biotin/

http://www.fillermarket.com/en/accueil/10574-mesohyal-biotin.html (62€)

https://www.allpara.com/buy/mesohyal-biotin/ (75€)

Biotin
https://buymesotherapy.eu/en/products/bcn-classics/biotin

Contains: Zinc, Selenium, Copper, Manganese and Chrom.
https://buymesotherapy.eu/en/products/bcn-classics/trace-elements

Peptides
https://buymesotherapy.eu/en/products/bcn-advanced/bcn-capillum-peptides

No prices in the shops so I dont know if we can buy as private person

From Ebay there is

D-Panthenol,Caffeine,Copper Peptides,VEGF, BFGF,IGF 1
https://www.ebay.com/itm/MESOTHERAP...394910?hash=item1a36ac0d1e:g:QNcAAOSwQm9Zxqje

Hyaluronic Acid , D-Panthenol , vitamin B5
https://www.ebay.com/itm/DermclarHa...hash=item2a8a8764ad:m:mT_UwaaVELsBBYhx0AOZiog

Biotinyl-GHK with a flavonoid from citrus, and oleanic acid from olive trees
https://www.ebay.com/itm/STRONG-hai...hash=item3f54d29d43:m:mKcC1Grbd67o4f-GN-RkFLw

Biotin,Vitamin B6,Trisaccharides,Follicussan, Cegaba
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mesoesteti...824883?hash=item1c5f2c53f3:g:wcwAAOSwJkJWiVsZ

 

[Jonnyyy]

Ok, back to topic

Found some ready made solutions for mesotherapy that could be mixed with dutasteride

Hairloss ready mix:Biotin (vitamin B8),Thiamine Nitrate (vitamin B1),Riboflavin (vitamin B2),Niacin (vitamin B3),Dexpanthenol (vitamin B5),Pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B9),Folic acid (vitamin B9),Inositol (vitamin I)

http://www.mesoestetic.co.uk/mesohyal-biotin/

http://www.fillermarket.com/en/accueil/10574-mesohyal-biotin.html (62€)

https://www.allpara.com/buy/mesohyal-biotin/ (75€)

Biotin
https://buymesotherapy.eu/en/products/bcn-classics/biotin

Contains: Zinc, Selenium, Copper, Manganese and Chrom.
https://buymesotherapy.eu/en/products/bcn-classics/trace-elements

Peptides
https://buymesotherapy.eu/en/products/bcn-advanced/bcn-capillum-peptides

No prices in the shops so I dont know if we can buy as private person

From Ebay there is

D-Panthenol,Caffeine,Copper Peptides,VEGF, BFGF,IGF 1
https://www.ebay.com/itm/MESOTHERAP...394910?hash=item1a36ac0d1e:g:QNcAAOSwQm9Zxqje

Hyaluronic Acid , D-Panthenol , vitamin B5
https://www.ebay.com/itm/DermclarHa...hash=item2a8a8764ad:m:mT_UwaaVELsBBYhx0AOZiog

Biotinyl-GHK with a flavonoid from citrus, and oleanic acid from olive trees
https://www.ebay.com/itm/STRONG-hai...hash=item3f54d29d43:m:mKcC1Grbd67o4f-GN-RkFLw

Biotin,Vitamin B6,Trisaccharides,Follicussan, Cegaba
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mesoesteti...824883?hash=item1c5f2c53f3:g:wcwAAOSwJkJWiVsZ

Do you know which one would resemble the closest to what is used in Spain?

 

[Balding curse]

How are you going to inject duta like divide the scap into four areas like frot, back, vertics?

And how do you know that the drug is going to cover all the affected area?

 

[BaldyBalderBald]

How do you are going to inject duta like divide the scap into four areas like frot, back, vertics?

And how do you know that the drug is going to cover all the affected area?

That's why this kind of procedure needs a trained practitioner my friend

 

[Bensson]

Do you know which one would resemble the closest to what is used in Spain?

I will order this mix and start after new year

http://www.fillermarket.com/en/accueil/10574-mesohyal-biotin.html

You get many good ingredients for hairloss in that mix which I think can give a good boost together with duasteride

Biotin (vitamin B8),Thiamine Nitrate (vitamin B1),Riboflavin (vitamin B2),Niacin (vitamin B3),Dexpanthenol (vitamin B5),Pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B9),Folic acid (vitamin B9),Inositol (vitamin I)

20 Ampoules of 2ml will give you 20 treatments

Mix 1 ampoule of biotin 2 ml + 2 ml dutasteride from capsules

Inject in scalp with hydra needle

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HYDRA-Ne...529252?hash=item33d5a28224:g:s3IAAOSwr6RZpRnr

Will do one per month first 6 months and then every second or third month as recommended by clinics

Total cost : 87€ (62€ Biotin mix + 5€ needle + 20€ dutasteride)

 

[dermrafok]

I will order this mix and start after new year

http://www.fillermarket.com/en/accueil/10574-mesohyal-biotin.html

You get many good ingredients for hairloss in that mix which I think can give a good boost together with duasteride

Biotin (vitamin B8),Thiamine Nitrate (vitamin B1),Riboflavin (vitamin B2),Niacin (vitamin B3),Dexpanthenol (vitamin B5),Pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B9),Folic acid (vitamin B9),Inositol (vitamin I)

20 Ampoules of 2ml will give you 20 treatments

Mix 1 ampoule of biotin 2 ml + 2 ml dutasteride from capsules

Inject in scalp with hydra needle

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HYDRA-Ne...529252?hash=item33d5a28224:g:s3IAAOSwr6RZpRnr

Will do one per month first 6 months and then every second or third month as recommended by clinics

Total cost : 87€ (62€ Biotin mix + 5€ needle + 20€ dutasteride)

That would be applicable to the concept of Follica (RAIN)? Really new treatments are necessary.

 

[UberBaldaten]

I will order this mix and start after new year

http://www.fillermarket.com/en/accueil/10574-mesohyal-biotin.html

You get many good ingredients for hairloss in that mix which I think can give a good boost together with duasteride

Biotin (vitamin B8),Thiamine Nitrate (vitamin B1),Riboflavin (vitamin B2),Niacin (vitamin B3),Dexpanthenol (vitamin B5),Pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B9),Folic acid (vitamin B9),Inositol (vitamin I)

20 Ampoules of 2ml will give you 20 treatments

Mix 1 ampoule of biotin 2 ml + 2 ml dutasteride from capsules

Inject in scalp with hydra needle

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HYDRA-Ne...529252?hash=item33d5a28224:g:s3IAAOSwr6RZpRnr

Will do one per month first 6 months and then every second or third month as recommended by clinics

Total cost : 87€ (62€ Biotin mix + 5€ needle + 20€ dutasteride)

Keep us updated please.

Why do you think biotin will be beneficial, considering it's most expensive out of all 3?

Also why not use subdermal injection rather than hydra. Hydra somehow seems it can't penetratie skin well.