Duration of side effects on finasteride

treeshrew

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please don't call finasteride a poison just because it didn't work for you. it's been pretty much a miracle drug for me as far as stopping my hair loss.

i can recall my first time having sex long ago, and boy was i nervous. i had trouble getting it up, and when i did it all went very quickly.

this is to say: the mind is a powerful force.

my test has always been solo pleasure. if you can do it alone (without any pressure) there is absolutely no reason you shouldn't be able to do it with proper company :punk:

can you truly not even get it going by yourself? if not, i'd agree there is cause for concern.
 

timbo

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I have trouble believing that you had 3 days of morning wood and spontaneous erections after quitting the drug and now you can't get it up. It looks to me like the signs are pointing to performance anxiety.

Also, how are you classifying one day of low libido as a "turn for the worse?"
 

Venom34

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Frankly, I'm insulted by the insinuation that this is in my head. These side effects are acknowledged by Merck (the same company involved in the Vioxx saga no less) and my experience is very similar, if not identical, to a number of people who have suffered an adverse reaction to using this drug. Sorry, but the suggestion that I would get performance anxiety in my own company when I had experienced a period of improvement which had led me to believe this would soon be properly behind me is farcical. Nor does anxiety explain my inability to even register interest in attractive girls (in other words, looking at hot girls, knowing I should be instantly attracted and yet feeling somehow disconnected from my member and like I'm looking at an inanimate object) or to get an erection by myself (to answer your question, Threeshew, it stays completely flaccid). For the record, my libido was non-existent for two weeks, showed signs of recovering over the last 3 days (days 14-16 since I took my last pill), and has flatlined again today.

Threeshew - my reference to this drug as 'poison' isn't to do with the fact that it keeps your hair. I don't dispute that many people - perhaps the majority of finasteride users - have good results in that department. I believe this drug is poisonous for a significant number of users because of the hormonal alterations that take place. The conclusion that the drug is safe because you haven't experienced side effects personally is about as sensible as a lifetime smoker declaring cigarettes safe because they personally haven't yet suffered lung cancer.

Furthermore, I understand the thought process involved in writing off my experience (and the experience of many other users) as being in our collective minds. By being dismissive and marginalising those who suffer side effects, you're effectively reassuring yourself that you'll be fine, which allows you to take the tablet with a clear mind. I'm not trying to be self-righteous here - as I said in my initial post, I've read this forum for 12+ months and I went through the same process myself when I started on finasteride (though I basically ignored the side-effects sub-forum). I was always convincing myself that the users who cited the FDA stats and the official Merck line whenever someone posted a bad side-effects story were right, and that the people complaining of sides were hypochondriacs because that is how they were received by the majority.

Again, I'm hopeful that everything will come good and I understand it is still very early in the piece, but it is very disconcerting nonetheless.
 

timbo

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What I said was not meant to be offensive, rather something that you should think about (or perhaps something you shouldn't over-think) in regards to getting an erection.

The fact is, finasteride has made you paranoid (perhaps rightly so) of permanent side effects. So logically, you will be nervous every time you even think about sex or masturbation. This is the definition of performance anxiety, which can be a major factor in sexual dysfunction.
 

follicle84

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Venom34 said:
Follicle84 - did you have many ups and downs as you recovered, or was it a linear trajectory? My biggest concern is that nearly everybody who reports long-term sides seems to have a short period of 'phantom recovery' before deteriorating, whereas most people who recover properly don't seem to go backwards once they're getting better.

Yes my hormones where out of wack. Some days i felt i was getting better and others still the same as when i was on finasteride. It took at least 4/5 weeks to truly start recovering to the point i knew i was getting better.
 

Shma

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treeshrew said:
my test has always been solo pleasure. if you can do it alone (without any pressure) there is absolutely no reason you shouldn't be able to do it with proper company :punk:
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I wouldn't say that... If you get use to that after years of excessive masturbation, you could have serious trouble when doing the "real thing".
 

timbo

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Shma said:
treeshrew said:
my test has always been solo pleasure. if you can do it alone (without any pressure) there is absolutely no reason you shouldn't be able to do it with proper company :punk:
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I wouldn't say that... If you get use to that after years of excessive masturbation, you could have serious trouble when doing the "real thing".

I don't understand how this is so complicated.

If you are physically able to masturbate, but you can't achieve an erection for intercourse, then the problem is most likely psychological.
 

treeshrew

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Hello? I said in the last part of my post "if you truly cannot get it up by yourself there is cause for concern". So I AM agreeing that there could be something wrong.

I know for a FACT finasteride can be extremely dangerous and cause irreversible damage for a very small minority of people. I think Merck should do more to acknowledge/compensate these people.

But for the far majority finasteride works fine with no side effects (myself included).
 

dougfunny

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DIM Extract :jackit:

Just get an Rx for Cialis, use it for a couple of months and then see if you are over it.
 

dougfunny

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monty1978 said:
dougfunny said:
DIM Extract :jackit:

Just get an Rx for Cialis, use it for a couple of months and then see if you are over it.

Why am I a tosser for recomending an herbal extract?

I honestly think that those that get sides from finasteride and duts do so because of elevated estrogen.

I have read numerous reports from people saying their sides were lessened by DIM!

Heh sorry I wasn't trying to call you a wanker.. just rolling my eyes (that was as close as there was).

I can't find a single web site that has any empirical evidence suggesting DIM does anything. I mean if it works you would think they could at least run a couple of blood tests to prove it. It does not get much easier than that.

But if you can find anything by all means please share! I would be all over that.
 

Belmondo

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Venom34 said:
Frankly, I'm insulted by the insinuation that this is in my head. [...]

You shouldn't be.

Anxiety and depression can have a drastic impact on a man's sexual performance. Erections start in the brain and if the brain isn't working properly, sexual problems may occur.

I'm not saying that this is 'all in the head' and finasteride didn't cause this. All I'm saying is that it's still too early to draw any conclusions.

I suggest you consult a urologist, do some tests and then follow the doctor's instructions. Don't try any herbal treatments (most of them are useless and can do you more harm than good) and don't panic. ED is, in fact, easily treatable.
 
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