Dr Lee: Shedding is indication that Propecia is not working

chewbaca

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Red Rose said:
Dr Lee:

3rd Myth: Shedding is an indication that Propecia is working

It is not normal for Propecia to cause shedding at any time during its use. Binding the type 2 5-alpha reductase does not cause a shift from anagen to telogen, so no shedding would be expected to occur. If shedding does occur, it is not a sign that finasteride is working.

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what's this?....Who is this DR LEE?
 

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Re: Dr Lee: Shedding is indication that Propecia is not work

chewbaca said:
Red Rose said:
Dr Lee:

3rd Myth: Shedding is an indication that Propecia is working

It is not normal for Propecia to cause shedding at any time during its use. Binding the type 2 5-alpha reductase does not cause a shift from anagen to telogen, so no shedding would be expected to occur. If shedding does occur, it is not a sign that finasteride is working.

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what's this?....Who is this DR LEE?
You're reading it wrong. You can't make an reverse conclusion. He's just saying that it's not a sign that Propecia is working if you shed. Neither is it necessarily a sign that it's NOT working. He simply says that if you shed it can be due to the normal shifting through anagen and telogen phases, shedding due to other factors such as weather, season or stress OR it could be due to male pattern baldness.

Nevertheless, I'd say that he is not completely right on this one. It's kind of logic that thin or vellus hair need to fall out in order to give place for stronger hair. This goes for all products that regrow hair.

Of course if you're one of those guys that simply maintain while on Propecia, then he's right.
 

goingoinbutnotgone

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It makes sense.

The normal growing period is a few years. The resting stage is a few months.

Shedding is the result of LOSING hair, not keeping it. I suppose it could speed up the growth cycle, thus causing a hair to eject early, but if the hair loss cycle was slowing down, you should see LESS shedding, no?
 

The Gardener

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goingoinbutnotgone said:
if the hair loss cycle was slowing down, you should see LESS shedding, no?

No.

Non-male pattern baldness people go through sheds too, they even have terrible sheds! The difference between them and us is that when their hair regrows, it comes in at the same thickness as the shed hair.

Remember, its NOT about how much you shed. All humans shed hairs! It is about how thick the hairs are that come in to replace the shed hairs.
 
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The Gardener said:
goingoinbutnotgone said:
if the hair loss cycle was slowing down, you should see LESS shedding, no?

No.

Non-male pattern baldness people go through sheds too, they even have terrible sheds! The difference between them and us is that when their hair regrows, it comes in at the same thickness as the shed hair.

Remember, its NOT about how much you shed. All humans shed hairs! It is about how thick the hairs are that come in to replace the shed hairs.

Give that man a banana!

Remember that 'hair loss' is not strictly the best explanation for what we go through.

It's actually hair minaturisation that evenually leads to dormancy in the hair follicle.
 

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This is what hairlosstlak SAID about shedding, repeat SAID about shedding as its a few years old:

'SHEDDING: Our hair naturally goes through growth and resting cycles. Each hair has its own cycle, and at any given time, a large % of follicles are "resting" while the remainder are "growing" as hair on the scalp. When Propecia enters the system, the sudden removal of DHT from the follicles can sometimes shock a large number of follicles to enter into the resting phase at the same time. Its known as a synchronization of the hair cycle. To the layman, it's frequently known as the "shedding sh*ts". Panic can set in as the person who sought to stop their hair loss, suddenly see's it get worse right before their eyes. The change is typically not noticeable to anyone but the one on the treatment, but its enough to cause many to freak out and lose their stability. We are here to inform you to NOT worry about shedding. If you are shedding, this means you are responding to the treatment. A larger number of hairs have entered into dormancy so that they can rest, and rejuvenate in 2 or 3 months free of any DHT affliction. It's as simple as that. Shedding rarely lasts more than 4 months, and typically results in a sudden "awakening" of large numbers of hairs'.

I bloody hope their right!!!!!!
 

mannyFJ

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i know this thread is old but i'm almost going into the 9 months on finasteride and i read from actually doctors saying that finasteride should not cause hair loss and or shedding itself....my hair was fine before finasteride as I was just using minoxidil but after starting finasteride to now I look like i'm suffering male pattern baldness at top and thinning diffusing horribly....should i quit before it gets worst????

anyone of you out there, if you hair is fine by just using minoxidil. just keep doing that as I wanted to replace minoxidil for finasteride and now i look terrible.
 

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My doctor had also said hair should not get worse on finasteride, at no point, and that it hardly works on anyone. If your hair loss has not stopped, or slowed to an INSIGNIFICANT level by 3-6 months, then finasteride did not work. It will not start working after that. That's why the true response of finasteride is not 86%, more like 20%. Everyone says "oh but imagine how much worse it wold be if I didn't take finasteride." No, you can't know that. If you can notice a 1 year-over-year loss, then the drug did not do its job as advertised, and you are a non-responder. I fell for this nonsense and am afraid I left it too late now moving onto a more dangerous regimen.
 

mannyFJ

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My doctor had also said hair should not get worse on finasteride, at no point, and that it hardly works on anyone. If your hair loss has not stopped, or slowed to an INSIGNIFICANT level by 3-6 months, then finasteride did not work. It will not start working after that. That's why the true response of finasteride is not 86%, more like 20%. Everyone says "oh but imagine how much worse it wold be if I didn't take finasteride." No, you can't know that. If you can notice a 1 year-over-year loss, then the drug did not do its job as advertised, and you are a non-responder. I fell for this nonsense and am afraid I left it too late now moving onto a more dangerous regimen.
So are you off finasteride and what is the dangerous regimen you are on?

Dude should I quit going on 9 months on finasteride and significantly more hair loss prior to using finasteride? I don't have really a receding hairline just diffusing and crown was slightly less dense than other surrounding but when i used minoxidil and it kept my hair and scalp coverage/density was good and now it looks like sh.t...really diffusing at top and crown is bad and even the sides of my front hairline is bad...this never was the case before.

i quit minoxidil not soon after using finasteride but it really started going down hill at 7 months on finasteride with hair loss so minoxidil been out of my system by then (read up to 6 months for it to be out of system).
 
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