Does High Stress Can Produce Diffuse Thinning Or Miniaturization?

michel sapin

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just wanted to know if stress could produce diffuse thinning or miniaturization . Or this is 100% dht related ?
 

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just wanted to know if stress could produce diffuse thinning or miniaturization . Or this is 100% dht related ?

I am a firm believer that stress, if severe enough can definitely lead to increased hair loss, or even Telogen Effluvium. Obviously, this will only permanently effect people with Androgenetic Alopecia. Anything that causes severe physiological trauma can induce Telogen Effluvium. Severe stress can definitely cause physiological trauma.
 

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Extreme stress can cause Telogen Effluvium (hair falling out, but growing back) but I'm pretty sure only Androgenetic Alopecia causes miniaturization
 

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I've never anyone losing some hair that grew back afterwards.

If you type Telogen Effluvium on Google, you'll see that pretty much all cases are actually androgenetic alopecia.

To me, Telogen Effluvium is just a cope even among doctors.

"A woman can't be balding, has to be Telogen Effluvium!"

dude, I've had it three times. Diagnosed by scalp biopsy once as well. 45% of my hair was in TELOGEN. This is NOT normal male pattern baldness, especially for a guy who had decently thick hair for 32 years. How can you say Telogen Effluvium doesn't exist when it's thoroughly documented. It also makes perfect sense - I had intense leg surgery. My system transitioned hair ALL over my body into telogen so it could supply more blood to the leg.
 

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That's all how my hair loss started. Under severe stress, my entire head I lost about 50% density. It triggered something in my body to severely start balding and my body hasn't looked past since. Most cases telogen effluvium in men especially triggers adrogenetic alopecia. Severe stress raises cortisol levels which is bad for hair, in addition to that it changes your hormonal makeup, if you're lucky it's temprory but for me it's just a precursor. I'm looking at being completely bald in the next 18 months, from a NW1 to a NW6 in about 36 months.

Take it from me, don't let life stress you out too much. Your hair might literally fall out and never come back. Take care of your mind along with your body. Don't go bald completely in a matter of 2 years.
 

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dude, I've had it three times. Diagnosed by scalp biopsy once as well. 45% of my hair was in TELOGEN. This is NOT normal male pattern baldness, especially for a guy who had decently thick hair for 32 years. How can you say Telogen Effluvium doesn't exist when it's thoroughly documented. It also makes perfect sense - I had intense leg surgery. My system transitioned hair ALL over my body into telogen so it could supply more blood to the leg.
Yup that's exactly what your body does in the situation you mentioned. Under severe stress your body goes in a fight or flight mode, your hair is one of the last areas your body will pump blood and nutrients if you're lacking due to insufficient diet (from lack of eating properly due to stress for example) or a shock to the body such as surgery.
 

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Yeah I'm sure that if we cut your scalp at the time, no blood would have come out.

I never said it completely shut off every vessel to my entire scalp tissue! haha... I am saying, it is a mechanism that sends FOLLICLES into telogen, so SOME MORE blood can be redirected to the area of injury.
 

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When my cousin told me stress caused his alopecia areata, my first reaction was:

"What stress? You have a comfy undemanding job and spend all your time at home playing video games."

Have you considered that it might be a really difficult video game?
 

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I'm talking extreme psychological stress. Not your day to day normal sh*t, I can only speak from my own personal experience on what happened to me. I agree though we don't know what exactly triggers telogem effluvium, I personally don't believe it's caused by day to day stress because then everyone would be bald.
 

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Did you want to kill yourself because the psychological pain and the extreme stress had become unbearable?

If the answer is no, then I guess your stress was not as extreme as you thought.

Intense panic attack, several days in a row with little to no sleep and... more hair (from minoxidil) a few months after.

It's just my personal experience but I really thought I was killing my hair and my body at the time.

I think we underestimate the resiliency of the human body.

My cousin also thought a "shock" was the cause of his alopecia areata.

What shock? The partner of his father died suddenly and it made him think about how his mother could also die suddenly.

Shock, lol.
Yes.
 

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i'm noticing that the ratio of balding is higher in immigrants than their original countries.
i bet my life on this.
 

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Definitely extreme stress causes me to shed and thin out like crazy. However I tend to recover eventually, whether is speeds up male pattern baldness is another question which im not too sure about
 

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I am a firm believer that stress, if severe enough can definitely lead to increased hair loss, or even Telogen Effluvium. Obviously, this will only permanently effect people with Androgenetic Alopecia. Anything that causes severe physiological trauma can induce Telogen Effluvium. Severe stress can definitely cause physiological trauma.

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Stress causes an influx in stress hormones (cortisol, etc) which can directly affect androgen levels and speed up hair loss
 

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i am not talking about the stress from work or daily life . But the fact of being stress about your hair . does the fact of being worry about your hair , each second of your life can cause baldness? i have obsesssive thought about my hair and being bald since i am 17 . and i wanted to know if it could trigger the gene or increase the rate of genetic hairlosss ?
 

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thanks fred . so according to you someone with the balding gene , if he is worrying constantly about his hair , it can't speed up his hairloss ? the stress has got no impact ?
i could understand for someone with no balding gene But for someone with the gene it could have an impact ?
 
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