Does DHT really "CAUSE" male pattern baldness

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Like I said, you should read very carefully before you debate.

The author said hunter-gatherer societies undisturbed by modern influences.

I think I see a car behind those men. AND THEY ARE WEARING GLASSES.

They're posing for pictures for tourists.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androgenic_alopecia#Hair_loss_and_lifestyle

 

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I think the wikipedia section speaks for the author. Like I said read!!. The author is an epidemiologists.

 

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So?? What if he is both? Those are related sciences. Did you research?

 

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Question and answer

A man who could not pay his loan to a kingpin was shot and killed. What killed him?

0. brain hemmorage
1. bullet
2. gun
3. assasin
4. kingpin

 

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My point is, if I stop any of those five factors, I will be able to prevent his death. But which one is the right one to stop?

But since I AM a pseudoscience maniac, we'll stop right here. But when you debate, be sure to be ready with your facts. Sorry for the unsolicited advice.

I can't? I not even arguing, YET!

 

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All of the above? That kind of approach is called the 'shot gun' approach. Pharmaceuticals like that kind of stuff.

Wrong answer. It's 3 and 4.

 

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Wow, I didn't know you had it in you!!. Do you believe that male pattern baldness is a symptom?

 

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Ok mister riddler here : 's one for you.

How far can you walk into the woods?

I would say half way the other half you would be walking out.

 

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Is male pattern baldness a symptom or male characteristc or a disease?

 

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So you mean male pattern baldness is a male characteristic or genetic trait.

Well, it's like saying the bald men are genetically more prone to CVDs regardless of what they do.

That's where you split with the the author. He thinks male pattern baldness is a symptom of conditions that are not akin to male physiological adaptation.

That's why he used the term 'Physiological Countermeasures" in my regimen.

The term 'androgenetic' is a term used by biomedical profesionals who work for pharmaceuticals.

 

[Bryan]

Yes, a symptom, of the cause, which is- having a genetic predisposition to androgen receptors on the scalp wich are programmed for apoptosis!

A small but important point: androgen receptors aren't "programmed" for apoptosis. Cells are programmed for apoptosis. All androgen receptors do is transmit androgenic stimulation to cells. What the cells do with it afterwards is another matter entirely.

 

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Wife-beating is a male psychological condition. So don't beat your wife

 

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Scalp hair follicles don't have androgen receptors.

 

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why are you shouting?

That's what mainstream "experts" believe. Their evidence is impirical. Do you know what that means?

 

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Good at least you'd done research before answering

Empirical evidence is NOT always hard evidence.

The process of biology cannot always be observed by looking at the biochemicals. It is too complex to come up with hard evidence which is why they rely on empirical evidence.

They think that the assasin was behind the killing and the kingpin got away.

 

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Empirical evidence is results based conclusion.

Yes theories are less supported by evidence BUT once they get results, they become facts.

We'll see if this author has that to offer in, say, four months? For now, I don't have hair fall anymore

I don't believe DHT is the assasin or the kingpin. So i'm still looking for both. This author thinks he has.

 

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It doesn't matter to me whether you believe it or not. It only matters to me.

Affiliated? We exchanged emails. Nice fella.

Do you even know that the claim DHT 'causes' hair follicles to miniaturize is a theory?

 

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Did you already forget the proverbial "who'd done the killing"

I hope your memory is not that short for someone at your age.

here add this to you research
http://www.propecia.com/finasteride...ern-hair-loss/role_dht_hair_loss.jsp?WT.svl=2

I don't know why you and the pundits here keep saying that DHT minituarizes hair follicles or kills them.

finasteride prevents the effects of DHT. That is a fact. It doesn't mean DHT minituarizes hair follicles.

Remember the proverbial "who'd done the killing"

 

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idontwanttobebalding, Yes, in real life situations you are right but you still have to get 3 and 4.

The purpose here is to prevent further killings.
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Ok. mr. finasteride, like I said, everything you just repeated is based on empirical evidence - stronger than theories.

Let me just remind you that it took decades before they found out they were wrong about antioxidants, vitamin supplements. Just to think that their studies were based on empirical evidence.

Good luck with you new treatment.

 

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Clinical trials are done to get positive results.

Do I get positive results if I take the gun and the bullets?

Wake up to the realities of the medical research!

Good night!