Does creatine cause hairloss?

[mr_anderson]

Although my hair was never great and I have always had issues with it since high school, I had at the age of 24 I was confortable with it because my friends were balding a lot faster then me, and they had great hair in high school. My hair line was actually the same these last 6 years, and it wasn't even that thiner than in high school.

I started taking creatine to elevate my workout performance... and after a month I started noticing major hair loss Really thinning. And am feeling really crappy, because maybe i accelerated my natural hair loss process.

Does anybody know anything about this or has experienced something like this? Is the hair loss temporary... or did I **** up once again? :cry:

 

[Maxpwr]

Yeah, good question... I've often wondered that myself. I used to take creatine as well but I never got back on it after I started visibly losing hair.

I cannot answer this one myself - I haven't the knowledge or facts.

What I can say is that when I went for my consultation at Ashley & Martin last year I was told that supplementing for muscle gain can be risky as far as hair loss is concerned. Any supplement that increases the body's production of testosterone can also increase the rate of hair loss.

That definitely cuts out the use of steroids. It also makes you a bit iffy about using Tribulus complexes, horny goat weed and other muscle / libido enhancers, but I'm not sure how things like creatine and glutamine would affect it. It would be interesting to know.

Again though, I am only passing on information that I have heard. I can't guarantee the validity of this information, but it's scared me out of using creatine again.... (despite its many positive benefits)

Can someone else help out with this question??

 

[bcapop]

Creatine actually protects your hair since it reduces caspase 3. Caspase 3 is activated by DHT to cause celdeath.

 

[docj077]

Creatine actually protects your hair since it reduces caspase 3. Caspase 3 is activated by DHT to cause celdeath.

I've never heard this before. Do you have link to a study that demonstrates this phenomenon?

Another important thing to remember is that Caspase 3 is only one of many effector caspases involved in apoptosis.

Lastly, increasing the duration and strain associated with workouts does many things internally to the human body. I would not be surprised if overlifting caused your hair to T.E. due to the stress on the body.

 

[bcapop]

Here: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entre ... =iconabstr

And here: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.bald ... 25da703b29

Caspase 3 is the most important for us hairloss sufferers. Caspase 8 and 9 are also activited around the hairfollicle, but to a lesser extend. Pomegranate actually reduce those 2 caspases.

 

[abcdefg]

I dont think creatine makes you lose hair, but it depends on a lot of things. I took creatine in high school and I had the thickest hair in the world but at that time I know most of my hair wasnt vulnerable to dht I guess i was to young still pre puberty I guess. A little hair at the very most temples was very very slowly miniaturizing but creatine didnt change anything.

 

[RaginDemon]

I dont think creatine makes you lose hair, but it depends on a lot of things. I took creatine in high school and I had the thickest hair in the world but at that time I know most of my hair wasnt vulnerable to dht I guess i was to young still pre puberty I guess. A little hair at the very most temples was very very slowly miniaturizing but creatine didnt change anything.

I used to take creatine as well and my hair was great at that time. It might as well be just coincidence.

 

[Beethoven]

Pomegranate actually reduce those 2 caspases.

Pomegranate also has allegic acid which is also very good for hair according to other link you gave in another thread. Maybe I'll buy pomegranate extract and make a topical from them.
Since I can't use anything that touches hormones, I'm looking for treatments that are directed to those molecules that were mentioned(and also tfg, pkc, etc...). Do you have any idea if pomegrante has any hormonal effect?

Edit: I googled it, and saw that pomegranate increases estrogen levels. Maybe as topical it will still be good for me... anyone knows if pomegranate also inhibit 5ar?

 

[abcdefg]

I was saying creatine didnt do anything I had a little hairloss but it was just coicidence. Creatine didnt seem to cause hairloss but again maybe in someone it does.

 

[RaginDemon]

I noticed my hair started shedding like no tomorrow after I sank into a major depression. I never had any problem with training suppliments whatsoever.

 

[bcapop]

Pomegranate actually reduce those 2 caspases.

Pomegranate also has allegic acid which is also very good for hair according to other link you gave in another thread. Maybe I'll buy pomegranate extract and make a topical from them.
Since I can't use anything that touches hormones, I'm looking for treatments that are directed to those molecules that were mentioned(and also tfg, pkc, etc...). Do you have any idea if pomegrante has any hormonal effect?

Edit: I googled it, and saw that pomegranate increases estrogen levels. Maybe as topical it will still be good for me... anyone knows if pomegranate also inhibit 5ar?

Pomegranate doesn't inhibit 5AR and I've never heard of pomegranate increasing estrogen. It does counteract TGF-b, caspase 8,9 and MMP 2/8 I think. Topically would be the way to go.

 

[Beethoven]

Pomegranate actually reduce those 2 caspases.

Pomegranate also has allegic acid which is also very good for hair according to other link you gave in another thread. Maybe I'll buy pomegranate extract and make a topical from them.
Since I can't use anything that touches hormones, I'm looking for treatments that are directed to those molecules that were mentioned(and also tfg, pkc, etc...). Do you have any idea if pomegrante has any hormonal effect?

Edit: I googled it, and saw that pomegranate increases estrogen levels. Maybe as topical it will still be good for me... anyone knows if pomegranate also inhibit 5ar?

Pomegranate doesn't inhibit 5AR and I've never heard of pomegranate increasing estrogen. It does counteract TGF-b, caspase 8,9 and MMP 2/8 I think. Topically would be the way to go.

Here are two example from google scholar search of "pomegranate" and "estrogen":

http://sciencelinks.jp/j-east/article/200110/000020011001A0337114.php

another good example:

http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/reprint/71/5/1062
take a look at page 1062, right column, bottom paragraph:
"Dried pomegranate seeds contain the steroid estrogen
estrone (26, 27), the isoflavone phytoestrogens genistein and
daidzein, and the phytoestrogen coumestrol (28)."

If you'll run the same search with the ordinary google, you'll get many products of pomegranate extract sold as estrogen supplements.

I'm very interested to find stuff that do exactly what you said (counteract TGF-b, caspase 8,9 and MMP 2/8), but I'm looking for minimum hormonal effect, since my experience with finasteride, topical spironolactone and fluridil was bad. I still might try pomegranate topically.

 

[RaginDemon]

too scientifical for me lol