do you lose short hair?

[Sir_LagaLot]

do you lose short hair with male pattern baldness ? firstly, i just got over with my exams, i changed my shampoo which i'd been using consistently since ages. i've heard shampoo changes contribute somewhat to sheds too. cant figure out whether this shed is due to stress, shampoo change, or seasonal change. i always seem to lose more in summers. i am on no medication.

anyway, i've noticed i lose more short hair than long. when i wash my hair i see short hair in the sink and a few long. i have hair till my eyebrows with a side parting. but the hair i lose in the sink are half the size or even sometimes the size of my eyelashes. its basically hair that was in the growth phase.

do you guys lose short hair too?.. the hair i lose isnt weak or anything, its the same as the rest just shorter.

 

[not me!]

I actually have hypothesized that "summer sheds" are a result of some ancient gene in our DNA that tells our hair to shed due to warm weather. This may be very far off from the truth but it crossed my mind.

 

[Sir_LagaLot]

hehe ..that may be so... i remember even last summer i was losing more hair than the rest of the year around. at this rate, i'm gonna shed every summer till i dont have a hair remaining on my head. do you lose short hair like i do cause majority of the hair i lose are half the length as the rest of the hair , sometimes shorter.

anybody else losing short hair?

 

[arjun17]

Yes I do lose a few short hairs....

.... and all are from an area which cannot be affected by male pattern baldness (the sides of the head in front of the ears) I think these are broken hairs caused by too vigorous scrubbing ripping out some part of weak hairs. But why are these hairs from an male pattern baldness-resistant area, I don't know.
Cheers,
Arjun

 

[Sir_LagaLot]

hmm...that would make sense i suppose, the short hair you mean are probably from the rest of the head, sides and back, ..i dont know, i seem to be losing more short hair than long and thinning is becoming visable slightly on the frontal right side of my head. my M shape is really weird too...the left side of the M seems fine, but the right side..the slope from the middle of the forehead to the right temple is alot longer, and the right temple has receded more.

dont experiance any itching or flaking .

 

[vade]

hey krush, im having the same situation as you.. i lose short hairs compared to the length of hair in my head ... sometimes those hairs are very small its like theyre starting to grow !! but i dont think its from the sides or the back though. but no idea why ?! :S , me too im not on any med.

 

[Sir_LagaLot]

hey vade

..i dont think the short hair i'm losing are from the back or sides of the head either, plus i cant seem to spot the bulb at the end of the short hair i lose. are you thinning at the temples and sides too? ...any history of baldness in your family?

 

[vade]

yes only on my temples.. on other places i have loads of hair, but im losing the temples :S ..and yeh there is male pattern baldness in the family ofcourse

 

[Guest]

These are likely to be hairs that are being affected by DHT thus shortening their anagen phase.

This means they will grow slower than non-male pattern baldness hair and will fall out more quickly due to a much shorter life-cycle.

 

[Sir_LagaLot]

thats the sad part when it comes to me, my dad has hair, mom has hair...grandparents had hair..sigh..only unc from moms side...but then again..hereditary hairloss is known to skip generations even...


my right temple has receded more than the left. and my foreheads shape is weird, starting from the left its like one small wave, then a big one


i've got a stress problem too, i dont know if losing all this short hair is a good sign of regrowth or just male pattern baldness kicking in will full force right now instead of the four years that i've been thinning

plus , the hair i'm losing, the bulb at the end is too small, you can just make out a tiny bump at the end. wonder what that means

 

[arjun17]

to krush...

are the short hairs u lose from one particular area , or from many places? If they are from one particular place like say , your right temple, then it MAY mean that DHT is shortening the anagen phase. But this shortening due to DHT is always accompanied by thinning of the individual hairs as well. So if the hairs seem reasonably healthy and thick, I don't think there's much to worry about. My hair is medium length right now (about 3 inches) so I'll come to know easily when I'm about to recede, which does'nt seem to be anytime soon. All the hairs at my temples grow as long as the midline ,which is a kind of "reference point", as the midline is affected considerably later than the temples.I have no recession or thinning at the temples (or anywhere else) as of now, but am worried that I may go bald cause my maternal granddad is NW6, and uncle is also heading there.
Cheers,
Arjun

 

[Sir_LagaLot]

hey arjun.. yeah the short here i'm losing i've noticed is mostly from my right side..towards the temple...i so much as just massage the area with shampoo and a couple of short hair fall out right away.. i have a middle parting..and when the hair is wet..the hair on the right side just falls flat while the hair on the left side still is bouncy and doesnt look so bad... i'm getting a sick mickey mouse kinda hairline and it came in just 3 - 4 days...

are you on any medication?

this sucks..almost every friend of mine who's balding has either a bald parent or grandparent and i have neither. then again..this bastard mbp is known to skip generations when attacking.

i'm thinking of giving ZIX a go with minoxidil. dunno if it'll work. i'm really not in favour of starting medication and its lifelong commitment.

 

[arjun17]

no I'm not on any medication as of now. I'm just waiting to see whose genes have I got when it comes to hairloss. I will recede sometime in the future , I know that.... the question is , whether it will continue or stop after some time. My dad had his mature hairline by about 26 (which has not moved ever since, 25 years later) while my maternal granddad and uncle were past the mature hairline by about 30. Thankfully, the only male pattern baldness which is present in my family is pretty goddamn slow (it took around 35 years to go from NW2 to NW6) so maybe it'll be easier to stop with finasteride , if I do get it later on. And another thing, my hair just is'nt that great to begin with, bcoz its naturally fine and flat. Its quite bad compared to that of most other guys my age (late teens) but my dad's hair is quite good compared to many guys his age (early 50's).
OK, enough about me. Its quite a good idea to try other treatments, as your temple is receding rapidly. And keep checking to see if any more short hairs fall. Do one thing... try growing your hair a bit longer while on the new treatments. If they work, you should see less and less short hairs after several months of treatment.
Best of luck,
Arjun

 

[Sir_LagaLot]

just washed hair...the ratio of long hair to short is almost 1:4 , all the hair i'm losing is half the length as the rest of the hair on my head. i dont believe its hair that is just giving in to DHT...if it were that way the other hair would fall just as much. and why just the right side?.. i've been losing hair since 4 years now and clogging the sink. only now is my hairline turned into an M...and i'm losing just short hair..i dont get it.

 

[Verb]

Hello Arjun,

Could you describe your dads mature hairline - preferrably in detail. I'm still doubting if I'm just developing one myself.

Thanks

 

[SE-freak]

The most important part is if these hairs have a pointed tip.
that could mean short-cycling.

In a much more optimistic scenario it could mean that they are falling to be replaced by healthier hairs due to a successful regimen but sadly the first one is more probable.

 

[arjun17]

To Verb......

The mature hairline of my dad (like that of most other people) involves the middle portion of the hairline sitting at its old teenage location. As you move some way towards the temples, however , there is a point at which the straight line starts sloping slightly upwards, the highest point of the slope being right at the corner where the front hairline meets the side hair, slightly more than 1/2" higher than it was in adolescence. i.e. the corner recedes anywhere from 1/4" to 1" higher than the adolescent corners. This happens in nearly EVERY man, and in the non-balding man, the corners reach this position by (or before) early 30's, stay at this position and do not recede any further.
So if your corners are receding a little and you are in the late teens to early 20s, there is no reason to worry. You should start worrying only if there is a major recession (over 1" higher than the adolescent position) or if the hairline starts thinning.
Cheers,
Arjun

 

[thylax]

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I lose this kind of hair for about 18 months now. They are very small hair and I dont lose my original hair. Its probably hair grown up by minoxidil which cant afford the dht attack or the minimalization of their follicles and die quickly... the mother fuckers!

 

[dead]

....i am on no medication....

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1/5 Generic Proscar 1x
1 ml Generic 5% minoxidil 1x (night)
1 Centrium Multivitamin 1x
No itching/flaking so no Nizoral
T/gel 3x a week.

the_Krush has it crossed your mind that this shed may infact be a result of the medication you started last month, not because you have changed shampoo.