Determining Effectiveness

rtg313s

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If you starty to experience some sides w/ finasteride, does that mean the medicine is actually working for you? I've been on it for about 2.5 weeks and I initially noticed some testicle pain. Now, my nipple is irritated. I know these sides aren't a good thing, but does that usually indicate that the meds will help stop MBP? Thank You
 

jeffsss

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well it means it's affecting you somehow..

I know if i get any signs of gyno i'm going to get off finasteride.

there are other options like topical..
 

rtg313s

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Yeah, but from what I've read...finasteride is the best option. I find it hard to believe that Gyno is even a possible side. It doesn't even list it under side effects. i think people who previously had it, like to attribute it to the finasteride...mainly cause they feel a slight nipple irritation
 

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Hi. Side effects just after you start finasteride show that they DHT levels in your body have been affected and body is adjusting the new hormonal imbalance. It shows that the drug is being efffectively absorbed and distributed in your body, so yes in theory the drug should work for you.
 

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rtg313s, how much finasteride are you taking? I assume that since you didn't mention it, it is 1mg. If I were experiencing the same effects as you right now, I would lower my dosage a little and see what happens. I have done a lot of searching on this forum and others, and I can confidently tell you that nipple irritation is not a positive sign. Of course, I could be wrong, but usually I see that this is the first sign of developing gyno.
 

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trentender said:
It shows that the drug is being efffectively absorbed and distributed in your body, so yes in theory the drug should work for you.
This is erroneous logic. Just because he has side effects does not in any way, shape, or form imply that he will have results with his hair loss. There have been countless studies done on Finasteride and in no cases has anyone ever demonstrated that side effects equate to increased chance of results. MANY people get side effects from Saw Palmetto and I don't know a single person or a single study where it was shown effective *in the scalp*. As a medical professional you should be fully aware of the difference between systemic reactions and treatment of conditions.

Your chances of results remain at 83%, side effects or not. The only thing side effects can accurately tell you is that your body is indeed responding to hormonal changes. As anyone with a 1st grade level understanding of medicine knows however, side effects have absolutely no correlation to % chance of effectiveness.

Please stop making comments that are not backed by facts. You declare opinions that contradict known data and declare them as facts. It is my job as owner of this site to correct misinformation, and you are making my job doubly hard.

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rtg313s

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Great than as the owner and operator of this site, would you concur that my nippleirritation is most likely as sign of Gyno? I'm on 1 mg
 

Britannia

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HairlossTalk said:
trentender said:
It shows that the drug is being efffectively absorbed and distributed in your body, so yes in theory the drug should work for you.
This is erroneous logic. Just because he has side effects does not in any way, shape, or form imply that he will have results with his hair loss. There have been countless studies done on Finasteride and in no cases has anyone ever demonstrated that side effects equate to increased chance of results. MANY people get side effects from Saw Palmetto and I don't know a single person or a single study where it was shown effective *in the scalp*. As a medical professional you should be fully aware of the difference between systemic reactions and treatment of conditions.

Your chances of results remain at 83%, side effects or not. The only thing side effects can accurately tell you is that your body is indeed responding to hormonal changes. As anyone with a 1st grade level understanding of medicine knows however, side effects have absolutely no correlation to % chance of effectiveness.

Please stop making comments that are not backed by facts. You declare opinions that contradict known data and declare them as facts. It is my job as owner of this site to correct misinformation, and you are making my job doubly hard.

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HairLossTalk.com I simply will not get into another argument with you on this thread, Im still licking the wounds from the last one. In my opinion one reason finasteride may not work for some people could be due to the fact that the drug is not absorbed or metabolised correctly. As he is getting sides from the drug I am assuming the drug has been aborbed and broken down. I am sorry if it came across that I was saying this as a matter of fact and not simply my theory. I would like to make that clear to rtg313 that me suggesting that finasteride is more likely to work if you getting sides is my opinion and there is no data to back this up.
 

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trentender said:
In my opinion one reason finasteride may not work for some people could be due to the fact that the drug is not absorbed or metabolised correctly. As he is getting sides from the drug I am assuming the drug has been aborbed and broken down. I am sorry if it came across that I was saying this as a matter of fact and not simply my theory.

This is so out of thin air. It could be your theory, but congratulating people for possibly having gyno is really too much.
 

Britannia

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I didnt congratulate him at all for having gyno! Its very unlikely he has gyno, but if he has only a Dr and an estrogen test will say for sure.
 

HairlossTalk

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trentender said:
HairLossTalk.com I simply will not get into another argument with you
Why don't you do what Petchsky said and learn from the corrections in your "opinions" that people give you, instead of taking it as an argument? You are gaining a reputation on this forum for relaying inaccurate information. Its not an issue of whether you want to engage me in an argument. Your information is just wrong.

As he is getting sides from the drug I am assuming the drug has been aborbed and broken down.
It sure is. Nobody disagreed with you on that did they. The problem came when you stated that absorption equals increased chance of effectiveness and results. The answer to the original posters question is "No, side effects do not necessarily mean greater chance of results". You said the opposite. Ergo - erroneous information.

I am sorry if it came across that I was saying this as a matter of fact and not simply my theory.
Even your theory is erroneous. So it still would have been corrected. Why is it that you believe everything is okay to say, as long as its an opinion? Further, for the issues which do have solid data and proof, why do you feel constantly expressing a conflicting "opinion" is a logical thing to do?

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