Dermroller + minoxidil - headaches anyone?

[casperz]

I just tied this together, I've been having low grade headaches since starting rolling. Anyone else
experiencing this?

I may need to lower my minoxidil dosage.

 

[Jlyncher]

Not me. In fact I waited an hour to apply minoxidil after the last three sessions, as opposed to my usual 12 hour window. No issues to report, but of course that may not apply to everybody.

 

[benjt]

I was one of the few unlucky to suffer from major minoxidil sides. After a lot of research I concluded that I had significant systemic absoprtion, and minor headaches were part of the symptoms I had. You should watch out if they happen to you, cause side effects from system absorption of minoxidil are not funny at all, to say the least. You may want to check this paper on what can happen in extreme cases:

Significant disfiguring changes occur as a result of bone, cartilage, and soft tissue hypertrophy, including the thickening of the skin, coarsening of facial features, and cutis verticis gyrata. [...] We present a patient with pseudoacromegaly that resulted from the long-term use of minoxidil at an unusually high dose.

I also got the thickening of the skin and coarsening of facial features. In my case, fortunately, they are slowly reversing. Been off of minoxidil for a little bit over 4 months now. The reason for these effects seems to be that minoxidil reportedly inhibits collagen synthesis. While this is a good thing on our scalps, as minoxidil thus inhibitis the formation of fibrotic collagen too, minoxidil spreading systemically is not desirable. The effect of collagen breakdown in your facial skin leads to wrinkles, dark eye circles, and premature facial skin aging.

Anyway, if you get headaches, reduce your dose. Your dose may not be too high per se, but more of it is absorbed into your body because of the derma rolling creating "channels" of very soft and new tissue which can be easily penetrated by minoxidil.

While the effects I described above are pretty scary (and, to be honest, are one of the worst things that can happen to your looks), they will not happen if your dose is not too high (in my case, I still don't know why the dose was too high, cause I stuck with the prescribed dose). Most people (and with most I mean more than 98%) never ever get these side effects. Reduce your dose by a little and observe your headaches. If you dont get any headaches, the minoxidil doesnt go systemic anymore. Don't discontinue minoxidil, just lower the dose. I will probably get on minoxidil again - though at much lower doses - when (and if) I recover fully from the side effects.

 

[casperz]

Thanks, I had some adverse symptoms when using 15% minoxidil but they did not include headaches. I agree with your theory that we are getting better absorption with Dermarolling.

 

[saintsfan92344]

I just started rolling Wednesday, doing it 1x a week, minoxidil every other day because of sides, using nizoral and miconozol 2% every other day also plus supps, I get light headaches when I do it that's why I do it every other, I may up it if I feel I am getting used to it

 

[vladut50]

I use Lipogaine (minoxidil 5%) twice a day, and the needle roller before, every time I apply it. I used to have headaches, low sexual desire and tiredness, but I used more than 1 ml each time. Now I derma roll only once a day or once every two days, I reduced the dose to 1 ml (sometimes I still use 1.5ml) and my headaches, tiredness and low sexual desire are gone.

Rolling, definitively increases absorption, as the scalp dries instantly if I masssage a little, so maybe this causes the heacaches.

I will cut my hair short so that Lipogaine applies better and 1 ml of solution is enough. I want to avoid possible side effects of long term usage. Cutting your hair short definitively makes more minoxidil touch your scalp.

 

[Pbot64]

Do not use Min the same day you roll.

 

[vladut50]

Does anyone know how much time I can interrupt minoxidil treatment without loosing hair again? I read an article that claimed you can interrupt for 2 weeks without starting to lose hair. I want to let a small swelling in my scalp heal. I scratched my head too hard once, and the bruise has a hard time healing and I think it is because of minoxidil.


I tried to avoid the small swelling when I apply minoxidil, but the same article says that minoxidil is stored in the the deep layers of the epiderma and affects the skin some good centimeters arund, so I think I should stom minoxidil for some time to allow it to heal.
What do you think?

 

[benjt]

I completely dropped minoxidil and only started to loose hair after more than one month.

 

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