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Hi
I have just seen your web page http://www.procerin-uk.com, and have a few questions about procerin.
First how long is the 15% discount for ?, you say it's for a limited time only and I get paid every two months (contract work on the ferries) so it will be 2 or 3 weeks before I can grab a couple of cans of this stuff.
Is it possible to pay in cash as I had my credit card taken off me ?
How long before I will start to grow my hair back onto my head ?
On your site you say that men have too much dihydrotestosterone on their scalp, if I increase my hair washing to twice a month will this wash this stuff off ?
How does this stuff arrive in the post, can it be sent in a plain bag ?
Thanks for any Help
Lester W
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Hi there - to answer your questions in order:
1 - The 15% discount will last until the end of August so you should be OK
2 - Yes - raise the order on the site as usual but choose "cheque" as
payment method - and then send cash to the address give. just send via Royal
Mail Special Delivery so that we have to sign for it and you're covered if
it goes missing.
3 - This depends on so many factors including your age, the current stage
your hair loss is in, whether you are still in the growth phase or not. Most
people who report hair re-growth do so after around 3 months.
4 - I'm afraid not no, the DHT is a hormone that reacts with Androgens in
the hair follicle - washing won't make any difference. We will be selling a
special shampoo on one of our other sites soon that will coat the hair
follicles with a special substance to stop the DHT reacting with the
Androgens - it is very expensive though. We will mail you when the site is
ready.
5 - always in plain packaging.
Thanks
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Hi there again
Cheers for the reply, good news about the 15% discount, will get paid in a couple of weeks (all in cash) so this should work out nicley. I see it is cheaper to buy six months worth, would I get a little more off if I bought a years worth (you never know if you don't try!!)
Great news that you take cash, alot of websites don't, this is very good news indeed.
When you say that growing my hair back onto my head depends on many factors - here are mine, I am self-employed (used to work for Britannia Ferries) I now work for different ferry companies (maintainance) I have had bad hair all my life (I am now 42) but about three or four years ago my wife left me and my hair went to pot!! started to get thin and itchy and has been pretty bad since. It is black hair and I normally do it in a standard mans style. Would Procerin still make it grow back?
Also when you say that I have 'ANDREGENS' in my hair, I am not sure about this, I have never suffered from anything like lice, nits etc and would probably know if there were any 'ANDREGENS' unless they were so small you can't see them? (like sand grains say)
And finally good new about the packaging, I live in a shared house with three other blokes (when not on the ferries) and if they knew I was taking hair pills they would probably think I was gay or something (idiots!!! but what can you do?)
Thanks for all you help.
Lester
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Hi Lester,
If you ordered 2 lots of 6 months this would normally be £95.98 x 2 = £
191.96. I could give you a 10% discount meaning it would be £172.76
instead.
However, what I would suggest is this:
Buy 6 months of Procerin, wait about 3/4 weeks then I will send you a link
to a new site we are building that will feature some hair loss shampoos. The
fact that you say the scalp is itchy means that your body is rejecting the
hair on your head! I know, sounds weird, but what happens is that due to
the large amount of DHT (hormone) men who suffer hair loss have - the body
reacts by attacking it - unfortunately the DHT is in the hair follicles so
it attacks the healthy hair as well!!!
Procerin inhibits DHT production, but some of the shampoos we will be
selling specifically target the body's immune system so that it doesn't
attack the hair. I think therefore that you need to combine these 2
treatments to treat your hair loss.
Androgens are chemical receptors in the hair - the DHT binds to them and
this (along with other things) causes the hair to fall out due to a
biological imbalance.
Anymore questions then give us a shout.
All the best
Andrew
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Hi Andrew
Thanks for the advice, like you say I think I will probably get the 6 month supply ( £95) for the moment (see how it goes)
Could I have a 5% discount on this price (half the discount you offered on the years supply) ??? Like I say, you don't know if you don't ask !
I don't know anything about science or any of that carry on, but this DHT stuff sounds pretty bad, is there any food that I can avoid so you don't get too much DHT like for instance eggs? I don't realy like eggs anyway so this wouldn't cause any problems, obviously I am presuming it 's eggs but I don't know it could be fish or cheese that is causing me to have so much DHT ?? what do you think ?
This new shampoo you are making, what does it say on the label, does it say anything like 'Bald Persons Shampoo' or 'For Strict use on balds only' ??? I don't want any of my house mates finding it and thinking I had gone gay (you know what I mean, not realy gay but you know soft) or is it a plain label just saying something like 'Medical Hair Shampoo' ???
You also say this shampoo attacks the body's immune system, this sounds dangerous is it safe, isn't that how AIDS is made ( I doubt you would sell something that was dangerous as you seem to know what you are talking about )???? Like I said above sorry if I sound a little thick but I don't know much about the science and all that, I just want my bloody hair to grow back like it us to be
Thanks for all your advice
Lester
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Hi Lester,
Go on then, we'll give you a 5% discount! Just send £90.00.
DHT is actually a by-product of having too much testosterone! That's why the
old wives-tale of bald men being more virile has a basis for truth! The
more "manly" you are the more testosterone you produce. DHT is a by-product
of too much testosterone.
No, it is not caused by diet at all - it's genetic I'm afraid.
The new shampoos - some do say they treat hair-loss and some don't - I'll
make sure I send you a link to the ones that don't! It doesn't attack the
bodies immune system - what it does is protect the hair-follicles from the
bodies immune system when it decides to attack the hair!
All the best
Andrew
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Hi Andrew
sorry for all the questions but like I said before I don't know anything about all this, not my area really (I'd be OK if you wanted your car fixed!)
£90 for 6 months would be great, I get paid soon and that will save me a bit as I plan to go to Mallorca in Spain for a week.
It's good to know that the testerosterone makes you manly, because some people think if you are bald you must be gay, this is stupid I know but it's good to hear it from someone who understands science and that kind of thing
Cheers for clearing up all the questions with DHT, Aids, Eggs, Immune System and so on, I don't really understand your answer but if it is safe then I am happy with that, and it's also good news that I don't have to change what I eat because when we are on the ferries they have only got things like egg and chips, soup, sandwhichs and so on, they don't have any of the organic rubbish you get in the supermarkets now (like that bread with nuts in).
How much will the shampoos go for ? ( I only want the one with the label that doesn't say anthing about baldness) could you give me a similar discount as for the Procerin stuff ? Also does the bottle look like a ladies shampoo or more like a mans shampoo ?
Also I read on the internet about Porpecia, it's also for baldness as well like Procerin, is it the same?, which one would grow the hair back onto the head faster ?
Can't wait to see the wifes face (ex-wife) when she sees me looking good again with good hair and a moustache, I will have a good laugh then I tell you !!!!
Thank you for all your help Andrew.
Lester (the new improved not bald Lester!!!!!)
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Hi there,
The shampoos vary in price - I'll send you a link once the site is up and
running.
Propecia is a prescription drug so you would have to go to your doctor and
then see a specialist and then they might prescribe it to you. Also it has
some nasty side-effects - like impotence and lack of sex drive. However, it
is clinically proven to work for many men (around 70% I believe).
All the best
Andrew
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Hi Andrew
cheers for the reply, just got in from a bloody 26 hour shift !! ( it's now 3.30 in the morning, these people treat me like a bastard )
The post office are going to charge me bloody well near £11 to send you £90 by registered post !! Bloody rip off, lazy bastards, but if I don't register it they will steal it and spend it on drugs!!!!!
I will have a look at your hair shampoos when you finish printing up the web pages, sounds good to me, specially if they are not in womans packages (you know pink or light purple with women on the label and so on) anything that is going to help 'upstairs' has got to be good (do they do any bottle that are black and have more 'manly' things on like an eagle or a formula 1 car ??? you know the kind of thing I'm sure.
I know I asked before but I have to ask again as I didn't get a reply, but, could you give me a similar discount for these special shampoos as for the Procerin stuff ?
This propecia drug sounds pretty bad if you have to go to your doctor and ask for it and also go to a bloody specialist !!, I am not going to bother with all that carry on, no way am I having my doctor laugh at me and call me bald, and these speacialists usually tend to be students who are just in the job for a laugh (at us bald people). AND it practically turns you into a gay, ( no offense to gays, I don't have a problem with them, there is a guy who works with us in Passenger Relations who is a bender and we all get on great with him, he goes for a bit of drink up with us and has a laugh, good bloke ) I have also heard that it can give you womens breasts, I am not sure if this is true but it just is not worth the bloody risk !!!!!!
so this is what I think I am going to get >>> Procerin for 6 months (see how it goes) and the shampoo that attacks the immune system (maybe 6 months worth as well???)
what do you think???
cheers for your help Andrew, sorry if I sound a little ratty but just a bloody long day on the tub.
Lester
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The black text are their replies.
All emails un-edited.
____________________________________________________
Hi
I have just seen your web page http://www.procerin-uk.com, and have a few questions about procerin.
First how long is the 15% discount for ?, you say it's for a limited time only and I get paid every two months (contract work on the ferries) so it will be 2 or 3 weeks before I can grab a couple of cans of this stuff.
Is it possible to pay in cash as I had my credit card taken off me ?
How long before I will start to grow my hair back onto my head ?
On your site you say that men have too much dihydrotestosterone on their scalp, if I increase my hair washing to twice a month will this wash this stuff off ?
How does this stuff arrive in the post, can it be sent in a plain bag ?
Thanks for any Help
Lester W
____________________________________________________
Hi there - to answer your questions in order:
1 - The 15% discount will last until the end of August so you should be OK
2 - Yes - raise the order on the site as usual but choose "cheque" as
payment method - and then send cash to the address give. just send via Royal
Mail Special Delivery so that we have to sign for it and you're covered if
it goes missing.
3 - This depends on so many factors including your age, the current stage
your hair loss is in, whether you are still in the growth phase or not. Most
people who report hair re-growth do so after around 3 months.
4 - I'm afraid not no, the DHT is a hormone that reacts with Androgens in
the hair follicle - washing won't make any difference. We will be selling a
special shampoo on one of our other sites soon that will coat the hair
follicles with a special substance to stop the DHT reacting with the
Androgens - it is very expensive though. We will mail you when the site is
ready.
5 - always in plain packaging.
Thanks
____________________________________________________
Hi there again
Cheers for the reply, good news about the 15% discount, will get paid in a couple of weeks (all in cash) so this should work out nicley. I see it is cheaper to buy six months worth, would I get a little more off if I bought a years worth (you never know if you don't try!!)
Great news that you take cash, alot of websites don't, this is very good news indeed.
When you say that growing my hair back onto my head depends on many factors - here are mine, I am self-employed (used to work for Britannia Ferries) I now work for different ferry companies (maintainance) I have had bad hair all my life (I am now 42) but about three or four years ago my wife left me and my hair went to pot!! started to get thin and itchy and has been pretty bad since. It is black hair and I normally do it in a standard mans style. Would Procerin still make it grow back?
Also when you say that I have 'ANDREGENS' in my hair, I am not sure about this, I have never suffered from anything like lice, nits etc and would probably know if there were any 'ANDREGENS' unless they were so small you can't see them? (like sand grains say)
And finally good new about the packaging, I live in a shared house with three other blokes (when not on the ferries) and if they knew I was taking hair pills they would probably think I was gay or something (idiots!!! but what can you do?)
Thanks for all you help.
Lester
____________________________________________________
Hi Lester,
If you ordered 2 lots of 6 months this would normally be £95.98 x 2 = £
191.96. I could give you a 10% discount meaning it would be £172.76
instead.
However, what I would suggest is this:
Buy 6 months of Procerin, wait about 3/4 weeks then I will send you a link
to a new site we are building that will feature some hair loss shampoos. The
fact that you say the scalp is itchy means that your body is rejecting the
hair on your head! I know, sounds weird, but what happens is that due to
the large amount of DHT (hormone) men who suffer hair loss have - the body
reacts by attacking it - unfortunately the DHT is in the hair follicles so
it attacks the healthy hair as well!!!
Procerin inhibits DHT production, but some of the shampoos we will be
selling specifically target the body's immune system so that it doesn't
attack the hair. I think therefore that you need to combine these 2
treatments to treat your hair loss.
Androgens are chemical receptors in the hair - the DHT binds to them and
this (along with other things) causes the hair to fall out due to a
biological imbalance.
Anymore questions then give us a shout.
All the best
Andrew
____________________________________________________
Hi Andrew
Thanks for the advice, like you say I think I will probably get the 6 month supply ( £95) for the moment (see how it goes)
Could I have a 5% discount on this price (half the discount you offered on the years supply) ??? Like I say, you don't know if you don't ask !
I don't know anything about science or any of that carry on, but this DHT stuff sounds pretty bad, is there any food that I can avoid so you don't get too much DHT like for instance eggs? I don't realy like eggs anyway so this wouldn't cause any problems, obviously I am presuming it 's eggs but I don't know it could be fish or cheese that is causing me to have so much DHT ?? what do you think ?
This new shampoo you are making, what does it say on the label, does it say anything like 'Bald Persons Shampoo' or 'For Strict use on balds only' ??? I don't want any of my house mates finding it and thinking I had gone gay (you know what I mean, not realy gay but you know soft) or is it a plain label just saying something like 'Medical Hair Shampoo' ???
You also say this shampoo attacks the body's immune system, this sounds dangerous is it safe, isn't that how AIDS is made ( I doubt you would sell something that was dangerous as you seem to know what you are talking about )???? Like I said above sorry if I sound a little thick but I don't know much about the science and all that, I just want my bloody hair to grow back like it us to be
Thanks for all your advice
Lester
____________________________________________________
Hi Lester,
Go on then, we'll give you a 5% discount! Just send £90.00.
DHT is actually a by-product of having too much testosterone! That's why the
old wives-tale of bald men being more virile has a basis for truth! The
more "manly" you are the more testosterone you produce. DHT is a by-product
of too much testosterone.
No, it is not caused by diet at all - it's genetic I'm afraid.
The new shampoos - some do say they treat hair-loss and some don't - I'll
make sure I send you a link to the ones that don't! It doesn't attack the
bodies immune system - what it does is protect the hair-follicles from the
bodies immune system when it decides to attack the hair!
All the best
Andrew
__________________________________________
Hi Andrew
sorry for all the questions but like I said before I don't know anything about all this, not my area really (I'd be OK if you wanted your car fixed!)
£90 for 6 months would be great, I get paid soon and that will save me a bit as I plan to go to Mallorca in Spain for a week.
It's good to know that the testerosterone makes you manly, because some people think if you are bald you must be gay, this is stupid I know but it's good to hear it from someone who understands science and that kind of thing
Cheers for clearing up all the questions with DHT, Aids, Eggs, Immune System and so on, I don't really understand your answer but if it is safe then I am happy with that, and it's also good news that I don't have to change what I eat because when we are on the ferries they have only got things like egg and chips, soup, sandwhichs and so on, they don't have any of the organic rubbish you get in the supermarkets now (like that bread with nuts in).
How much will the shampoos go for ? ( I only want the one with the label that doesn't say anthing about baldness) could you give me a similar discount as for the Procerin stuff ? Also does the bottle look like a ladies shampoo or more like a mans shampoo ?
Also I read on the internet about Porpecia, it's also for baldness as well like Procerin, is it the same?, which one would grow the hair back onto the head faster ?
Can't wait to see the wifes face (ex-wife) when she sees me looking good again with good hair and a moustache, I will have a good laugh then I tell you !!!!
Thank you for all your help Andrew.
Lester (the new improved not bald Lester!!!!!)
____________________________________________________
Hi there,
The shampoos vary in price - I'll send you a link once the site is up and
running.
Propecia is a prescription drug so you would have to go to your doctor and
then see a specialist and then they might prescribe it to you. Also it has
some nasty side-effects - like impotence and lack of sex drive. However, it
is clinically proven to work for many men (around 70% I believe).
All the best
Andrew
____________________________________________________
Hi Andrew
cheers for the reply, just got in from a bloody 26 hour shift !! ( it's now 3.30 in the morning, these people treat me like a bastard )
The post office are going to charge me bloody well near £11 to send you £90 by registered post !! Bloody rip off, lazy bastards, but if I don't register it they will steal it and spend it on drugs!!!!!
I will have a look at your hair shampoos when you finish printing up the web pages, sounds good to me, specially if they are not in womans packages (you know pink or light purple with women on the label and so on) anything that is going to help 'upstairs' has got to be good (do they do any bottle that are black and have more 'manly' things on like an eagle or a formula 1 car ??? you know the kind of thing I'm sure.
I know I asked before but I have to ask again as I didn't get a reply, but, could you give me a similar discount for these special shampoos as for the Procerin stuff ?
This propecia drug sounds pretty bad if you have to go to your doctor and ask for it and also go to a bloody specialist !!, I am not going to bother with all that carry on, no way am I having my doctor laugh at me and call me bald, and these speacialists usually tend to be students who are just in the job for a laugh (at us bald people). AND it practically turns you into a gay, ( no offense to gays, I don't have a problem with them, there is a guy who works with us in Passenger Relations who is a bender and we all get on great with him, he goes for a bit of drink up with us and has a laugh, good bloke ) I have also heard that it can give you womens breasts, I am not sure if this is true but it just is not worth the bloody risk !!!!!!
so this is what I think I am going to get >>> Procerin for 6 months (see how it goes) and the shampoo that attacks the immune system (maybe 6 months worth as well???)
what do you think???
cheers for your help Andrew, sorry if I sound a little ratty but just a bloody long day on the tub.
Lester
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