CURE REQUIRES BALLS~!

[plusryan]

i think avodart doesnt work, people that are retards are saying it no work?

why oh why, i think im gonna die.


my hair is falling out? OH MY GOD f*** the bull sh*t jesus h f*****g christ dick suck.

 

[bubka]

To let people know that there is an alternative to using these drugs,chemicals,transplants and head carpets. I found that the only people on these forums were people like Jayman that sit around and push drugs and FEAR instead of someone pushing acceptance and an alternative to these body and mind damaging regimens.

what is this jealous retard even talking about?? mind damaging??? you are the one who will have an increase risk of skin cancer on your NW10,000

put some sunblock on baldy :freaked2:

 

[Guest]

[quote="haunted-ballroom":6d007]

I'm a norwood 1,000,000, get it right. Slick and Smooth just like the ladies like it. I'm happy,liberated,stress-free and loving life. Jayman, how many hours did you spend in the mirror today counting those 3 new hairs? :lol:

Then what you doing here?

To let people know that there is an alternative to using these drugs,chemicals,transplants and head carpets. I found that the only people on these forums were people like Jayman that sit around and push drugs and FEAR instead of someone pushing acceptance and an alternative to these body and mind damaging regimens.

Well I tried to accept that I was losing my hair at first...but my confidence took a huge hit so I got on treatments.

clearly another paranoid loser. just accept your fate, go bald, and shave. maybe you'll get lucky and find a woman who likes to eat ranch dressing off your shaved horseshoe, just like justshaveit did.

huh? im on treatments so I dont go bald, how does that make me a paranoid loser?[/quote:6d007]

dude i was joking, knocking you just like justshaveit does. ive been following your good progress on the drugs haha.

 

[JustShaveIt]

You wasn't joking, You was just showing your true self. Also where did i "knock" haunted in this thread? Quit trying to cover yourself with lies. Its you and bubka that keep attacking me and other people on this board who don't tow your BS line about using these drugs.

 

[bubka]

what the f*** do you have against drugs, seriosly, are you one of these wackos who would let their children die if they had to take a medication or needed a surgery that was anything scientifically more advanced than shaving your head

seriosly, why are you here??? quit trying to delude yourself into your self choice of being a horseshoe, nobody here cares, nobody here even knows why you are here besides to troll

 

[kalbo]

DUTASTERIDE

FOAM

NIZORAL


You want hair? Cut the bull-$#iT regimens and man-up.

I have ZERO absolutely zero SIDE f****ing EFFECTS. I don't come on here very often, wanna know why? MY ENTIRE HAIR LINE IS RESTORED.


PERIOD. END OF DISCUSSION. YOU PEOPLE ALL WANT HAIR? LISTEN TO ME. And EVERYONE ELSE THAT USES THIS REGIMEN.

I can't tell if you're joking or not... but if you're serious, then have you considered long term side effects? Sure you have no sides now, but who knows what's going to happen 20 years from now.

I can understand the frustration with the fear mongers, but let's not pretend that these drugs are completely safe.

 

[bubka]

I can understand the frustration with the fear mongers, but let's not pretend that these drugs are completely safe.

finasteride has been in public use for nearly 20 years now, it has one of the safest drug profiles of any out there

 

[plusryan]

I can't tell if you're joking or not... but if you're serious, then have you considered long term side effects? Sure you have no sides now, but who knows what's going to happen 20 years from now.

I can understand the frustration with the fear mongers, but let's not pretend that these drugs are completely safe.

The drug has been tested. It wouldn't be on the market if it wasn't safe. Do some damn home-work. Later alligator.

besides your whole argument is irrelevant because once you stop the pills, the sides go "POOF".

please.

OR,

you can shave your Q-ball head everyday. wanna?

 

[Nick4441]

For those that treatments work and get no sides they think everyone else is a wuss if it doesn't work or they get sides.

Everyone is different and treatments are not working for some of us and some get really bad sides.

There is NO guarantee you can slow hairloss with any of this stuff but those of us it doesn't work we keep trying..those it does work then great we are well please for you as that why we are all here to try and find an answer for all of us to find something that works.

Some seem to think dutasteride is a guarantee you won't lose hair. Well the Propecia web site make similar claim for Propecia and myself and a few others its just made things worse...not something we expected with all these wonderful claims. Sometimes I wish I had not started down this hormone changing route as I have got lines on my face and tirednes also that I did not have 6 months ago and I recon Propecia helped cause that too...wouldn't be so bad if it had given me great hair but it hasn't.

 

[haunted-ballroom]

[quote="haunted-ballroom":1e0e4]

[quote="JustShaveIt":1e0e4]I'm a norwood 1,000,000, get it right. Slick and Smooth just like the ladies like it. I'm happy,liberated,stress-free and loving life. Jayman, how many hours did you spend in the mirror today counting those 3 new hairs? :lol:

Then what you doing here?

To let people know that there is an alternative to using these drugs,chemicals,transplants and head carpets. I found that the only people on these forums were people like Jayman that sit around and push drugs and FEAR instead of someone pushing acceptance and an alternative to these body and mind damaging regimens.

Well I tried to accept that I was losing my hair at first...but my confidence took a huge hit so I got on treatments.

clearly another paranoid loser. just accept your fate, go bald, and shave. maybe you'll get lucky and find a woman who likes to eat ranch dressing off your shaved horseshoe, just like justshaveit did.

huh? im on treatments so I dont go bald, how does that make me a paranoid loser?[/quote:1e0e4]

dude i was joking, knocking you just like justshaveit does. ive been following your good progress on the drugs haha. [/quote:1e0e4]

Oh right lol! Im a bit slow :lol:

 

[kalbo]

The drug has been tested. It wouldn't be on the market if it wasn't safe. Do some d*** home-work. Later alligator.

Me do the homework? Research on Vioxx and Baycol my friend.

I'm not saying that finasteride/dutasteride is just as dangerous as those... just saying that there are no guarantees with drugs on the market.

besides your whole argument is irrelevant because once you stop the pills, the sides go "POOF".

please.

Majority of sides do go away after the discontinuation of use, yes. But there are cases of permanent side effects. They are rare, but you still need to be aware that it's possible to get those.

OR,

you can shave your Q-ball head everyday. wanna?

I'd prefer not to do that of course, seeing how I'm on the meds right now. But I'm not taking these pills with the mindset that there are no risks involved and that future complications are not possible. We're talking about taking a hormone altering drug everyday... it's naive to assume that it would be completely safe.

If people feel they would much rather go bald than to screw around with their hormones, then let them. And besides, some of you are acting like these drugs will work for a lifetime. They could work for decades or they could work for only a few years. It's perfectly fine if people would much rather stay completely healthy than to save their hair for only a few years.

 

[Pondle]

There is a biological model for the effects of finasteride... men with 5AR2 deficiency. Except for the associated urogenital defects present at birth, no other clinical abnormalities related to this deficiency have been observed in these individuals. These men have a small prostate gland throughout life, and do not develop BPH, male pattern baldness or prostate cancer.

 

[kalbo]

I don't think it's fair to compare us with those born with 5AR2 deficiency. They were naturally born without it, while we're beating our bodies to produce a smaller amount of it through the use of a man-made drug.

But it is fair to note that the body doesn't really need 5AR2.

 

[hair today gone tomorrow]

I don't think it's fair to compare us with those born with 5AR2 deficiency. They were naturally born without it, while we're beating our bodies to produce a smaller amount of it through the use of a man-made drug.

But it is fair to note that the body doesn't really need 5AR2.

The body after puberty doesnt need DHT...nevermind 5ar2

 

[docj077]

The drug has been tested. It wouldn't be on the market if it wasn't safe. Do some d*** home-work. Later alligator.

Me do the homework? Research on Vioxx and Baycol my friend.

Actually, you need to do the research on those drugs. Read the studies. Those drugs were pulled off the market for no good reason. When you compare sick people taking a drug to non-sick people not taking a drug, you're going to have adverse reactions. Afterall, those people were sick to begin with.

COX-2 inhibitors increase thromboxane A2 levels because of their very mechanism of action. However, that effect will only cause problem in people who already have pre-existing heart disease. Now, we have doctors and patients who are pissed off because those type of drugs were all that worked for their arthritis.

The same thing just happened with Zelnorm and another drug for IBS. It's a mistake, because the studies have been interpreted wrong and everybody, but the general public knowns that. Now, we have thousands of people that can't treat their disease, because somebody in some study hadn't taken care of themselves for 50 years and when toe up when they took a drug. That's bullshit.

So, don't you come on here and lecture people about drug safety when you probably never even read the studies.

 

[Guest]

agree with Doctor. discussed this with my dad and other doctors and vioxx being taken off the market is a real shame for patients and for the doctors that want to treat them. now we have the same fear mongering about propecia from people like justshaveit and rambo.

 

[bubka]

wow, people still got heart attacks from a drug that is trying to treat severely unhealthy people with related causing conditions

i agree, total shame about these drugs

 

[Guest]

it's sad how many stupid and uninformed americans there are about issues like this. people who scream about vioxx and other drugs and how because the drugs were taken off the market, it must mean that the drugs kill everyone. i guess it's easier to just turn on the telly and listen to news anchors instead of doing research for yourself.

the fda kept beta blockers out of us pharmacies for years, even while they were stocked in other countries. thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people died as a result of the fda doing that.

 

[kalbo]

So, don't you come on here and lecture people about drug safety when you probably never even read the studies.

Admittedly, I haven't read much on Vioxx other than the media reports, but I was really just disagreeing with plusryan's argument that a drug is completely safe due to the fact that it's on the market (Fen-Phen was fda approved and put out on the market too right). And is it really the right message to tell everyone to go ahead and pop the pill and disregard any future complications b/c they're not possible?

Look, I'm not trying to fear monger here b/c look at my regimen, I've been using finasteride for a year now and I don't plan on stopping anytime soon. I even advised people to get on the pills and have my own thread in the Success Stories section. I just think that some people are doing a huge disservice by telling others that these drugs won't cause any problems either in the short term or long term. Yes, the severity of the side effects are overstated a lot around here, but I think it's just as bad to force people to use these drugs and tell them to not consider any future complications. And I read testimonies of people being advised by their doctors to drop propecia after 5+ years of use (with no problems during the first few months), so long term problems are indeed possible.

Is it really that wrong to tell people to use these drugs, but be aware of ALL the risks involved?

 

[Guest]

but I think it's just as bad to force people to use these drugs and tell them to not consider any future complications.

stop right there kid. no one is forcing anyone to do anything. i'm not holding someone's mouth open and forcing propecia down their throat. i'm advocating for its usage just like some people on here advocate against its usage.