Does anyone else think that we might start seeing a lot of hair research teams pushing hard to cure hair loss fast now that it looks like Dr. Tsuji may be very close to a real breakthrough treatment? Does this put other teams under major pressure to get the lead out?
Could Dr. Tsuji Being Near Success Push Follica And Other Research Teams.
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it likely will not make a difference as you need to overcome a set of obstacles before marketing your product or service. Specially in areas of medicine you have the follow the usual protocol (phase 1, phase 2, phase 3, fda approval etc). As much as I hope it'd would speed things up, I think it's unlikely it will have any effect.
Lots of people can afford traveling to Japan and I think the people who can afford to travel to Japan would do it.
I think they all think of each other as competition and I think research teams pay attention to the competition.
I wasn't really talking about Histogen or Replicel because they already have their timeline.
I was thinking more about Jahoda and other cell based researchers like Christiano, and perhaps Follica.
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I think Tsuji must know that he has competition. Jahoda and Christiano were cloning hair back in 2013. In 7 lab tests where human cells were injected into skin grafted on the backs of mice, hairs grew in 2 or 3 cases.Jahoda said it was an important hurdle to overcome but that technical challenges remain. And then there is Sanford Burnam in California working on a similar technique, and Shiseido.
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Shiseido and Tsuji Riken would put the others out of business, the others only have a shot if they're early or cheap. I would be wary, if I was an investor, investing in any technology right now because if Tsuji does what he says he's going to, its game over for the competition. If Tsuji succeeds then the others have until about 2025 to make their money, then they all go out of business
I used to say the same, but I'm not sure I agree anymore.
Tsuji's method is great, but Follica and Histogen would be available in the west long before Organ Tech. The thing to remember about Tsuji's method is that it's most practical for high-grade NWs. Follica's treatment and assumingly Shiseido's as well would've dropped significantly in price by that time while Tsuji's would remain quite high.
If I could use conventional treatments and maintain and Follica works out, something like that would no doubt be a much more practical, cheaper solution. With Tsuji, you're going to have to find a way to maintain anyway unless you want to keep shelling out the $ for repeat treatments for years and years. Not to mention, the hair behind the new stuff will continue to thin and make your hair look like crap in general.
In the immediate future, for me, FIDIA's mixture, Histogen, Shiseido and Follica have my faith. Except for maybe Histogen, I think all of these would have their place post-Tsuji revolution.
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There's still Kythera and Samumed to look forward to. Lot's of options around the corner.
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You could get all your vulnerable hairs lasered off. My only problem is the labour cost of getting someone to put in 50,000+ hairs into your head. From what I've seen so far with the automated tattoo-bot, and the mass produced pluripotent stem cells it does sound like we have the technology to automate the entire process.
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Fidia I expect to be the new minoxidil at best, don't expect much improvement over finasteride and minoxidil, but possibly an alternative for those who can't use finasteride.
Follica I have no hope for, it's just wounding and minoxidil isn't it?
Histogen results are highly suspect and only last about 2 years supposedly.
Samumed could be interesting.
I'm thinking Shiseido technology should be able to restore hair follicles, then maintain with anti androgens, use hair transplants to fix existing damage.
Tsuji is an option for higher Norwood who don't have enough hair to transplant for good coverage or for lower NWs as a hair transplant like option if you don't want to touch your donor area.
If Shiseido and Tsuji/Riken don't work out then the timeline once again shifts, a cure to hair loss by 2030.
Follica I have no hope for, it's just wounding and minoxidil isn't it?
Histogen results are highly suspect and only last about 2 years supposedly.
Samumed could be interesting.
I'm thinking Shiseido technology should be able to restore hair follicles, then maintain with anti androgens, use hair transplants to fix existing damage.
Tsuji is an option for higher Norwood who don't have enough hair to transplant for good coverage or for lower NWs as a hair transplant like option if you don't want to touch your donor area.
If Shiseido and Tsuji/Riken don't work out then the timeline once again shifts, a cure to hair loss by 2030.
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You are in Japan? have you tried to contact the companies to get on future trials there?
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I think the safety+results+ease of use will make the market be pretty open to anything that works well
I can say as a woman there are many ways to treat aging skin...there is dermabrasion, there is chemical peels, acid peels, botox, restalyn/fillers, thermage, lasers, as well as good old fashioned face lifts (even in that there are many different approaches) ....they all do relatively same thing at different levels and there is still a market for all.
I think hair loss IF all these treatments work it will be somewhat similar.
I think there is room for all.
Rest assured that if or when it becomes a commercialised technology, someone else will develop a similar procedure not long afterwards or perhaps around the same time even. Other biotechs wouldn't dream of letting Tsuji corner the market with a procedure worth billions. This is at least a few years away maybe longer.
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Of course if hair > everything, there's always the antydhtor route, get your hair back, live with feminisation...
I've had a hair transplant, I'm on finasteride, dutasteride and minoxidil and I'm not willing to quit those treatments so they wouldn't accept me for a trial. I'll just wait for the commercial version.
and see, that's an issue.
We're all willing to say we'd pay any amount of money or take out loans etc. if it meant you could get all your hair back, but I think that in reality, when actually faced with this, most people will pull a U-turn.
They said in the interview that Organ Tech initially expects their tech to be quite expensive. There is absolutely no way this would be cheaper than the average hair transplant for several years post release. They could easily charge twice what conventional transplants cost.
Then there is the matter of traveling and staying in Japan, which is literally the most expensive country in the world. I'm calling it now, anyone much above NW2 who could travel to Japan in a few years to get this done is looking at around a 100k pricetag for the total package. I'd like to say that no price is too high, but realistically, I doubt I'd be able to just spend that kind of money and I certainly wouldn't go into that much debt.
I believe Tsuji has the holy grail of hair loss treatments, but I think people would be most wise to support Follica, Histogen and Shiseido's endeavours.
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They know that it's working, but they have not yet figured out how to produce large numbers of the cells they need to grow hair.