Conflicting reports on the inflammation theory

[chewbaca]

The tingling that hair transplants is experiencing and the hot scalp of Daver might be due to inflammation. The given wisdom among dermatologists is that the hair follicles of male pattern baldness patients are not inflamed, and that inflammation does not play a role in male pattern baldness as it does in alopecia areata.

I think there is a subclinical inflammation in the follicles of some people with male pattern baldness. This subclinical inflammation causes the tingling sensation and the scalp tissue heat. Inflammed scalp tissue is not a good environment for hair follicles.

I wish there were some stats telling us what percentage of people with male pattern baldness experience tingling and heat in the scalp - and does this have any relation to BSS (burning scalp syndrome).

http://www.hairloss-reversible.com/disc ... 9/764.html



Anyone knows that is he talking about?

 

[SE-freak]

Tom rocks.

I experience some "tingling" in the male pattern baldness areas but after starting the SE it is considerably limited.

 

[HairlossTalk]

Inflammation plays a role but that has been long known. Its not some new miraculous discovery.

You can be intelligent and wise about it and simply use the incredibly common products out there sold for scalp inflammation and sebborheah like Nizoral shampoo ... or you can be weird about it and use wacky chemicals that aren't that safe or well studied, to accomplish the same goal.

For over 6 years we have been advising users to use Nizoral shampoo to deal with the inflammation, itching, redness, and soreness associated with Male pattern baldness. It has worked well for nearly everyone. For those that it doesn't work well, they try things like Aloe lotion, folligen lotion, or emu oil and usually have success. You just want to calm down the environment. Thats all.

End of issue really.

Its just important that you don't ignore it if you have it because of course ... it will excascerbate your hair loss. However... stopping it does not equal "cure to hair loss" by any stretch of the imagination. You're only treating an associated condition by doing this ... not the condition of hair loss itself. Very commonly known for many years.

HairLossTalk.com

 

[Chujgcha]

People may call for my assasination for saying this, but I think inflammation is the root cause of male pattern baldness, not DHT. It has been shown in at least one study that androgens are responsible for modulating (alter a function or status of something in response to a stimulant) the tissues local inflammatory response to "whatever" stimulant.

So basically 5AR inhibitors and antiandrogens indirectly act as anti-inflammatories by blocking the bodies local response. If you could block 100% of AR inside the horse pattern we would stop hairloss because we would completely stop the inflammation. Same goes for castration.

I recommend reading this study:

http://www.jci.org/cgi/content/full/110/5/615

 

[The Gardener]

I disagree, I don't think that androgens are tasked with modulating irritation. Just as our scalp hair gets more thin with age, as a result of the androgens, our back hair, body hair, and beard all get more THICK with age as a result of these same androgens and there is no irritation involved in these processes.

 

[sublime]

:mrgreen:

 

[Chujgcha]

I don't think that androgens are tasked with modulating irritation.

This study suggests that:

http://www.jci.org/cgi/content/full/110/5/615

If it is true that androgens play a role in modulating the bodies response to inflammation, I wonder if DHT has a more potent inflammatory response than T?

Just as our scalp hair gets more thin with age, as a result of the androgens, our back hair, body hair, and beard all get more THICK with age as a result of these same androgens and there is no irritation involved in these processes.

Why don't the sides of your scalp thin out? That hair was there before puberty.

Just the fact the hairloss advances in a pattern (norwoods) I think would point to a localized "system" as the root cause.

I bet if you were to stick splinters in your back in the shape of a horseshoe, inflammation would set in those localized areas and over time the body hair would miniaturize until finally fibrosis would leave the area slick.

 

[Petchsky]

I too think that inflammation plays a bigger part in hairloss than most people would acknowledge. I don't read most of the studies because i find them boring, but from my own experience my hairloss did not improve intil i cleared up my seb derm, which led to most of my hairloss imo.

No fire here. nfire:

 

[Jacob]

Inflamil is another excellent product for inflammation. I think even topicals such as EquiClear and Equisomin would work for some. They're expensive but if it's alcohol and/or pg etc that's causing your problem- those products have none of that. The hair gel I use even seems to help 8) Contains aloe as HairLossTalk.com mentioned..along with Blood of the Dragon etc.

 

[SE-freak]

I just started those exercises a couple weeks ago. Have you noticed anything SE-Freak or anyone who has done these exercises?

I have been doing them for 5 months now. Less fallout, CONSIDERABLY more muscular face, and I think something is changing up there. But it is too soon for regrowth.