Collegechemistry student: too much fatty fish

[Jacobo]

Hi CCS, I usually read your posts and others in the forum, I haven't posted because I found answers just using search, and I haven't got anything new to share about hairloss...

I decided to post cause I read in your regimen that you take 3 servings of salmon a day. Even if the samon is wild, clean water etc, that is far more than necessary, and probably dangerous. Recommendations are around 2 to 3 servings a week. Up to 7 a week could be OK, I don't know. But the amount you are taking can have serious side effects: promote risk of stroke becouse excessive thining in the blood, Prolonged bleeding time for the same reason, and maybe even affecting our inmune system. I've read somewhere that the people with more rist lf hemorrhagic (sp?) stroke on Earth are the Greenland Eskimos, due to the amount of omega 3 fatty acids that they take on their diets.

It is great on small amount, a heart and probably brain protector, but please check in wherever fonts you trust about the serious risks of overdoing it. And also you can have problems overdosing vit A and D, and they are not a joke, either.

Sorry to be a scaremonger in my first post, but I thought I have the obligation to inform you. At least, please check it.

BTW, thanks for all your work in the foro, I am sure that I am not the only one reader - non poster who take advantage of your advice. Merry Christmas.

 

[CCS]

Thanks for the info. The price of canned salmon went back up to $3 from $1.50 for 16 oz about a month ago, and I've just been taking mercury filtered fish oil instead, 180 1g 30% capules for $6. So I'll update my regimen.

I'll stop doing 3g a day like I've been doing. I guess I should get 1.5 grams of the long chain stuff. I did not know that too much was a bad thing, though I did know some of the good effects drop off after 3g.




Here's some info for you:
Vitamin K does not just help with blood clotting. It prevents calcium from depositing in soft tissues and on veins, and is a cofactor to putting it on the bones. Without it, those calcium pills will not help osteoperosis much, and people will calcify their veins fast. The RDA is considered low for this perpose, since it is intended just for the blood clotting. 1mg per day is ideal, though 250mcg is a lot better than the RDA of 90mcg. You'd need near 90mg per day to overdose. You can get vit K from leavy greens, but might not be able to absorb it. Eating them with some fats will help extract it first (salad dressing? butter? peanuts?). Most people don't eat greens, though, and lettuce has very little compared to collards. I bought some pills, which have a lot more and are easy to absorb. bought them at http://www.beyond-a-century.com. I take 2 per week and eat my greens with my safflower oil every day.

 

[CCS]

and pomegranate juice can help reverse plaque on veins. I take the extact, since I don't want to go all the way to trader joe's.

 

[Jacobo]

CCS, thanks for the info. I know that chickpeas and green tea extract both have some vit K, problably nowhere near the 1mg day in a edible portion of them. Full fat milk, pref organic, no-homogen. no-pasteuriz. has some as well, not a lot, but probably the easier for our body to assimilate. And, despite what vegans say, if you don't have lactose intolerance, it is a good allround meal: top proteins, calcium, A+D. BTW, where have you learnt that 1mg day is ideal? Thanks.

Also, if the price of samon is up, then, why don't you try a portion eod? You get the extra goodies apart from the oil (proteins as good as the ones in the meat, and probably more). If you worry about procedence of the fish and mercury levels, try the small fish (mackerel or sardines) rather than the big guys (tuna, salmon). Because the nutrition chain of these beauties, the last in the chain (e.g. the big) accumulate mercury taken for each of them in the proccess. I hope that it makes sense for you, cannot explain much better in English.

For vein protection, I will stick with Spanish red wine, packed with proanthocyanidin or procyanidin or something. Up to 30 grams alcohol a day keep doctor away. ( 1/3 bottle 75cl 12% alcohol), at least that is common belief in my family

 

[CCS]

a website that sells vitamin K pills had a copy of the study. Maybe that study had the highest recommended amount, which is why they posted it.

green tea extract is a water extact, so I don't think it would have vitamin K. I heard it does, though. Milk has very little.

I could eat fish less often, I suppose.

Instead of drinking red whine, I eat grapeseed extract with grape skin extract.

 

[bubka]

yeah, like he really eats salmon 3x a day... please

 

[Guest]

that long regimen couldbe doing more harm than good.

 

[bubka]

that long regimen couldbe doing more harm than good.

he did state in his RU cocktail thread that his hair not not been looking thinner

 

[Guest]

that long regimen couldbe doing more harm than good.

he did state in his RU cocktail thread that his hair not not been looking thinner

but hasit been looking thicker? keep in mind that it may be looking thicker if it is from the recent set of grafts(3rd time?) that he added to his front. when you get an hair transplant and startadding treatments left and right afterward it complicates results attribution.

 

[bubka]

ah, too many negatives, his hair has been looking thinner, not "not thinner"

I think dutasteride has made the back half of my head even denser, but I might be seeing more thinning in the front. I don't know, though. I don't even have a camera to put some decent pictures on the personal sites.

 

[Guest]

maybe the stuff that he puts in his minoxidil is making it less effective and causing thinning.

 

[Jacobo]

green tea extract is a water extact, so I don't think it would have vitamin K. I heard it does, though

I didn't recall correctly. It is dried green tea, that could be what you heard, also, Vit k is not soluble in water, as far as I know

I could eat fish less often, I suppose.

Sure, I guess that oily fish benefits have a long "half life", that is why most goverments recommend 2 or 3 portions a week, and not 1/3 portion/day, in such an important subject as heart health.

More info 4U: I ve read that the most concetration in antioxidants that exist is cocoa, (I mean, as "normal" food) but mixed with milk loses its effect. Dark chocolate > 70% cocoa shoud be the s**t, 20 grams/day enough.

Off topic, if you don't mind help me with this. This Christmas holidays I will post my story and regimen I am considering. Part of it will be a homemade cream. I've seen your mix of GSE, GTE, applepoly... Thinking that in a cream I might be able to suspend some more actives, which will be your perfect % of ingredients, and also your advice on %turmeric powder (95% curcumin). I mean, you use what you think is best, or that is the maximum you can disolve. BTW,GSE and applepoly is not overkill?.

Also,The study on procyanidin b2 uses 1%, how do do you know how much apple poly you need to get that amount of procianydin Would you go more than a 1%? I cannot get applepoly in Spain, do you know any other reliable source of procyanidin, or should I just import it from your country (charge 20$ int. shipping). Just curiosity, what is it capsules, tablets, liquid inside, powder?.

Much appreciated your answer, if you think that this is not the right forum and you want to open a new topic, just let me know

Thanks - Jacobo

 

[CCS]

you can get bulk powder at http://www.beyond-a-century.com

apple poly is a mixture of many polyphenols. I'm sure it is hard to get 1%. A 5% solution of apple poly or GTE or GSE probably has a fraction of a percent of the stuff we want. But I don't know of any other way to get the stuff more concentrated.

curcumin powder is bright yellow. It is not cosmetically acceptable, except when you sleep.

I put unsweatened cocoa powder on my oatmeal. 3 grams per day.

 

[Jacobo]

Cocoa in the oatmeal, I am trying it.

http://www.auravita.com sells cheap 10% GTE cream. Cheap. How does it sound to you? Enough to work by itself?

Indian women use turmeric cream for skin beauty , is an old ayurvedic remedy. Vicco turmeric cream looks the most common of them.

Thanks - Jacobo

 

[CCS]

I am shopping for an anti-oxidant cream for my face.