Can propecia be harmful if not needed??

truking10

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can u take propecia if ur not balding for instance. I was thinning around the crown and on sides so i saw a specailist and he said it was Telogen Effluvium than i got a biopsy done and he said it came back as Telogen Effluvium. NOw all great news yet im still worried can i take PROPECIA anyway will it hurt ?????
 

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why waste the money? If its Telogen Effluvium then rife it out and you will be all set

And no it won't hurt you if you take it as it will leave your system in a week or so
 

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Dinzy said:
And no it won't hurt you if you take it as it will leave your system in a week or so

Propecia is not a one pill deal, it is to be taken continually to se the benefits, so the above point is irrelevant.
 

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Hey, I have a few question about your Telogen Effluvium.

Did they say what the onset was from?
How long have you been shedding?
Did they say how long you will shed?
When will the har grow back?
Will it all grow back?
What does your hair look like?
Do you shed a lot everyday?
Has it slowed down?
What prompted you to think or your doctor to think it was Telogen Effluvium.

Basically, the reason why I am asking this is becuase I went to a derm a month ago who specializes in hair disorders when I noticed my hair shedding en masse. She ran her hands through my hair and literally pulled out 5 strands at a time and muttered Telogen Effluvium. I told her in February I had got a concusion and a gash that required stiches and she more or less pointed to that. So she wants me to observe and try to bag my hair for the next month once a week till I return to see if there is a gradual stopping of the process. My hair, has some patchy areas and some thick areas, its hard to tell wtf is going on.
 

Sir_LagaLot

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no, propecia is not harmful. but like you said before, if its t.e you have and the biopsy has already revealed it as t.e , do you really wanna go through the extra shedding?.."

then again, you have t.e in the male pattern baldness areas..front, vertex, temples?..if so then i'd suggest you get a six month supply of finasteride and start off...it wont harm you...dont give the sides a thought and you might be luckier than me and not go through any. since your hair isnt gonna start growing right away might as well start finasteride along with it for another 6 months just in case..
 

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I'll say it again for the umpteenth time: the pseudohermaphrodites in the Dominican Republic appear to be pretty healthy, other than their obviously altered sexual development. So how could finasteride be dangerous, long-term?

Bryan
 

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Bryan said:
I'll say it again for the umpteenth time: the pseudohermaphrodites in the Dominican Republic appear to be pretty healthy, other than their obviously altered sexual development. So how could finasteride be dangerous, long-term?

Bryan

How can you possibly justify that statement scientificaly Bryan? That's just a very dangerous assumption.

There were only some 40 odd examples noted, and far more importantly these all shared a common ancestry. This `particular' limited gene pool is the whole reason the condition was passed to these pseudohermaphrodites in the first place from a common ancestor!!

So how can you possibly say that people from widely different genetic backgrounds, will be `OK' based on this example? I'am sorry Bryan, but that is a completely irresponsible statement on your part. :eek:

My personal opinion is that if the females in your direct family tend to suffer from auto-immune conditions like Lupus etc, do `NOT' use finasteride/dutasteride.

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Bryan said:
I'll say it again for the umpteenth time: the pseudohermaphrodites in the Dominican Republic appear to be pretty healthy, other than their obviously altered sexual development. So how could finasteride be dangerous, long-term?

Bryan

Bryan I am sure the numerous newbies who ask these kinds of questions will not have a clue what you are on about, pseudohermaphrodites indeed. Your understanding of the inner most workings of the follicle is nothing short of impressive, but you may have to temper this with a little empathy for those who do not the difference between pseudohermaphrodites and pseudohypoparathyroidism, invitro and invivo or even finasteride and findus crispy pancakes.

I can just see the thinking now:

WTF !!! Dude !! altered sexual development, what the f*** is that sh*t!! NO WAY, I am just going to work out and get big, fuxk that proposcar sh*t.

Also I have counted the amount of times you have corrected people who have posed similar questions and it is not umpteen, it is in fact umptynine.
 

truking10

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big D i have had serious emotional problems along with constant stress anxiety and pretty much just worrying all the time about my health, thought i had cancer in october so that was horrible for my stress. So i got a haircut the lady said your thinning around your crown, i thought nothing of it but 3 months later i noticed my hair in the front was thinning, to be honest i didnt notice massive sheds i just wasnt looking for it or know about it. So i went to UCLA and the hair specailist looked at my hair with these glasses and said i have Telogen Effluvium, i came back 3 weeks later to make sure and he took a biopsy, a week later he called and said it was -Probable Telogen Effluvium, which im not exactly sure but he said i dont need any treatment i just need to relax for 6-12 months and it will grow back....I HOPE......my sides are thinner my front is thinner along with the vertex and the crown, hopefully it will get better
 

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damn, i'm confused as all hell, I just wanted to know a little more about the Telogen Effluvium the person is suffering who first started this post.

Maybe I'll just shave my head and get all juiced out, at least I'll be jacked. I can wait 10 years for that hair multi-thingy to make me look like side show bob again.
 

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S Foote. said:
Bryan said:
I'll say it again for the umpteenth time: the pseudohermaphrodites in the Dominican Republic appear to be pretty healthy, other than their obviously altered sexual development. So how could finasteride be dangerous, long-term?

Bryan

How can you possibly justify that statement scientificaly Bryan?

I just did. Right there in that paragraph above! :wink:

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There were only some 40 odd examples noted, and far more importantly these all shared a common ancestry. This `particular' limited gene pool is the whole reason the condition was passed to these pseudohermaphrodites in the first place from a common ancestor!!

Let me explain a few things to you, Stephen: if you'd been paying attention to my recent posts on various hairloss sites, you'd know that the Dominican Republic isn't the ONLY place where those same kinds of "pseudohermaphrodites" have been found. They also exist in New Guinea and some parts of the Middle East (Turkey, IIRC).

And here's an even BIGGER newsflash for you: it was previously thought that the pseudo's in the Dominican Republic are all descended from a common ancestor (a woman who lived in the 1800's), but now they're not so sure about that. That's because they've found that there are DIFFERENT SPECIFIC MUTATIONS among the pseudo's in that gene that codes for 5a-reductase type 2. That finding really threw a monkey-wrench into the assumption of a common ancestor! :wink:

BTW, Stephen, I replied to you recently in our thread about Nordstrom and Orentreich, etc., but that thread has now been moved into the "Surgical Alternatives" forum for some reason that I can't fathom. Be sure and look for it over there!

Bryan
 

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TynanW said:
Bryan I am sure the numerous newbies who ask these kinds of questions will not have a clue what you are on about, pseudohermaphrodites indeed. Your understanding of the inner most workings of the follicle is nothing short of impressive, but you may have to temper this with a little empathy for those who do not the difference between pseudohermaphrodites and pseudohypoparathyroidism, invitro and invivo or even finasteride and findus crispy pancakes.

I have to make a few minimum assumptions about the general knowledge of the typical reader, else I wouldn't be able to get ANYTHING posted in a reasonable amount of time! For example, right now I might answer someone by simply saying: "Sure, you can take a full week's worth of Avodarts over the weekend. dutasteride has a very long half-life." But if I also had to explain what "half-life" means because there might be a newbie reading about it for the first time and I had to indulge in a lengthy discussion of dutasteride pharmacokinetics, I'd probably just skip the whole thing!

If any reader is puzzled about "pseudohermaphrodites" at this stage of the game, they can enquire about it separately...

Bryan
 

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Wow, talk about hijacking a thread, we went from Telogen Effluvium to hermaphrodites, well pseudo at least anyways.

Hey Trucking, cancer you say, that's pretty serious. I slipped in a bar I work at and happened to smash the back of my head against a door knob, when I came to I stood up and passed out from the gash in my hand from the glass I fell on, thus causing me to smash the front of my face into a wooden bar counter, yup, concusion, stiches. I'm a clumsy dude. On top of that, it was icy when I finally was moving and when I walked out I slipped AGAIN and did the home alone fall where my feet went straight up and I fell on the back of my neck, yup, that was my night. I'm a clumsy person, I once fainted and landed on razor blades.

Anyways, so by the middle of april, think of it like this, a tree when the loose their leaves, well that was my head, shake a little, some fall, pull on some, it comes out, just esceissive amounts, from all over. So I went to hair specialist and with her little special glasses looked through my hair and starting pulling out in clumps. She said I may have a slight underlying male pattern baldness, but not to worry since most of my family have heads of hair like buffallo. but she wants me to measure and come back in a few weeks and then do a biopsy.
 

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Bryan said:
S Foote. said:
Bryan said:
I'll say it again for the umpteenth time: the pseudohermaphrodites in the Dominican Republic appear to be pretty healthy, other than their obviously altered sexual development. So how could finasteride be dangerous, long-term?

Bryan

How can you possibly justify that statement scientificaly Bryan?

I just did. Right there in that paragraph above! :wink:

Huh?

Just tell us all about the individual pockets of pseudohermaphrodites that have been noted in `ALL' the genetic pools worldwide??????

Tell us all about this capacity in `ALL' the genotypes Bryan 8)

How about all the people that `MAY' have some kind of inherited pre-disposition to diseases that these pseudohermaphrodites dont?

You can rule out any effect on this pre-disposition to certain diseases, of reducing DHT levels can you?

Just how `un-scientific' you really are Bryan should be clear to everyone now!!

Bryan said:
BTW, Stephen, I replied to you recently in our thread about Nordstrom and Orentreich, etc., but that thread has now been moved into the "Surgical Alternatives" forum for some reason that I can't fathom. Be sure and look for it over there!

Bryan

I will take a look at that tommorow, it is late here now. I wonder what you will use to try to divert from the facts this time Bryan!! :roll:

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