Call Out Swoop , Or Steroid Users ; Need Some Advice!

[michel sapin]

hey guys, i would like to have some advice from the member who use some steroids .
How much does a test cycle increase the testosterone ? in comparison with propecia .
BEcause propecia raise my test of almost 30% . Does a basci test cycle increase the free test way more ?
thx.

 

[Swoop]

I have never used any steroids in my life. Only ran ostarine for 6 weeks, but it didn't add much to my physique at all.

I really want to cruise on testosterone later in life though (35-40+ year), but only if I get a guarantee that my dear hair follicles are protected.

I think @shookwun can help you better tbh.

 

[shookwun]

> Makes a thread about suicide over temporal loss

> Wants to get steroids to further accelerate loss







I don't have any numbers or data handy. I am having my blood work done in another two weeks after I am done this batch of accutane so I can provide actual data then.


It's real simple:

Testosterone is the only safe drug to take if you want to build muscle and semi-maintain hair through finasteride.


Simple logic realy:

It doesn't matter how you look at it. Finasteride is blocking 70% DHT, but you are re-introducing 1-10x the amount you product naturally, depending on dose. You are going to have massive increase in androgens floating around, attaching to your balding head.



No point in cycling steroids. it's f*****g retarded.. I could see this causing more damage to your body, and hair then staying on until you are reading to completely come off. Hormones in WACK while in a post cycle therapy, estrogen through the roof! A lot of people seem to get hair loss related effects when they come off. During, not so much/

 

[Prada1]

A test cycle IS testosterone. Nobody knows what you mean by basic. Most casual/moderate users use around 500mgs/week. Which is maybe 5-6x your endogenous amount. Personally I would use dutas at least when taking an exogenous source of test. Or you could drop the test and use something like equipoise or anavar which, anecdotally, effect hair very little. It all depends on your goals and sensitivity to hair loss. I went almost 10 years using moderate amounts of test with tren and test with deca which apparently is a no no while on finasteride. No hair loss at all but last two years with no AAS as all I thinned out a lot while still using finasteride. Go figure.

 

[Jeca Tatu]

> Makes a thread about suicide over temporal loss

> Wants to get steroids to further accelerate loss


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LMAO !!!

 

[michel sapin]

thanks for all your advice guys, i don't plan on running a steroid cylce ^^.
I just wanted to know how much a conventional test cycle would raise the free test and the oestrogen level .
You are way more likely to get a gyno from a test cycle than the test boost given by propecia ?
because for me it increased my free test by 30 % , i had low test before and now fall in middle range . Increase more than the standard 15% raise .

 

[Prada1]

I think so yeah. I mean a testosterone and finasteride together will be worse but it all comes down to if you are prone to gyno just like male pattern baldness. I could have a gram of test per week take dutasteride and not get gyno. Others don't take anything at all and get gyno. It think DHT plays a big role as an anti-estrogen. Thats why people with gyno, rub DHT cream or use something like letrozole to reduce estrogen and the gyno. Anyways the other thing is that you could use an aromatose inhibitor while using AAS to counter the estrogen because that is what will lead to gyno, if you are prone to it.