But would you do this?

[eliza]

This is sickening to say the least. Could you possibly fathom what it is like for a woman to lose her hair with pricks like you running around. It disgusts me. I would not spit on any of you if you were on fire.

 

[BadHairDecade]

This is sickening to say the least. Could you possibly fathom what it is like for a woman to lose her hair with pricks like you running around. It disgusts me. I would not spit on any of you if you were on fire.

I couldn't agree more. It's quite suprising to see such a double standard. Chances are it's just a bunch of youngins that haven't learned any of lifes lessons yet.

 

[The Gardener]

I would maybe date a bald chick if she wore a wig every single time I saw her. She would have to be good looking with the wig on and have most of the package with her.

Well, I've never been with a woman with a 'package' but I suppose that there is a first time for everythaaang. Not really my cup of tea, but do you have any pictures?

 

[flux]

This is sickening to say the least. Could you possibly fathom what it is like for a woman to lose her hair with pricks like you running around. It disgusts me. I would not spit on any of you if you were on fire.

No offence, but stfu.

Many of the comments in this thread were positive towards women with this condition. You act like they were all negative. But can it really be suprising that some men feel that way?

I have news for you dear, there are plenty of young women out there who will rule a guy out based on his hair (or lack thereof). Its clear you dragged this thread out of the archives for personal reasons, but let me tell you, male or female, hairloss SUCKS. We are experiencing the same damned thing as you. So take your feminist kick and shove it.

 

[douggie]

I wouldn't date a fat chick, don't know about bald. If she had hair similar in density to mine I prolly would. I imagine if she had nice boobs I may ignore a bald head also.

All in all, it's just a preference thing. Some women care about hair and some don't and I am sure it is the other way around.

 

[eliza]

I obviously was not referring to the "positive" comments made. Furthermore, the point that some women would not date a balding man is not very valid coming from a BLADING MAN saying he would not be with a woman with thinning hair. Even if that's they way you feel, it's rather heartless to post it in a public forum. At the very least it is more socially accepted for a man to be bald, even more, it can be considered sexy. But it's going to be even harder for a balding a**h** without intelligence enough not to post comments like these to find a women who does not mind about his lack of hair.

 

[Deaner]

nicely said eliza.

 

[The Gardener]

I wouldn't date a fat chick, don't know about bald. If she had hair similar in density to mine I prolly would. I imagine if she had nice boobs I may ignore a bald head also.

All in all, it's just a preference thing. Some women care about hair and some don't and I am sure it is the other way around.

Would you date a girl with a package?

 

[flux]

I obviously was not referring to the "positive" comments made. Furthermore, the point that some women would not date a balding man is not very valid coming from a BLADING MAN saying he would not be with a woman with thinning hair. Even if that's they way you feel, it's rather heartless to post it in a public forum. At the very least it is more socially accepted for a man to be bald, even more, it can be considered sexy. But it's going to be even harder for a balding a**h** without intelligence enough not to post comments like these to find a women who does not mind about his lack of hair.

You make some valid points.

However

is not very valid coming from a BLADING MAN [...] At the very least it is more socially accepted for a man to be bald, even more, it can be considered sexy.

If society judges these conditions differently, then it is valid by societys standards, no? Its does not display empathy towards a very similar condition, however, which may very well make a man a 'jerk'. That being said, many of the posters here are young and in early stages of hairloss, and many are holding it off with treatments, so that, cosmetically, the hairloss is negligable. While in this stage, they still want to think of themselves as 'normal'.

Even if that's they way you feel, it's rather heartless to post it in a public forum.

This is a mens forum. You're welcome to come in here, but its analogous to the female reporter who walked into a football locker room.. we're not all wearing our towels because, frankly, we were not expecting you.

You already know that many men are shallow, and that looks do matter. That hair is expected on a female and when it is lacking, some men will turn the other way. I am sure you did not learn this by reading this thread.

I already know that a healthy percentage of women I am interested in romantically are not interested in me. I do not let this bother me: I only need the one. Dont let this get to you. Be strong and persevere. All that matters is your own happiness.

 

[drinkrum]

Furthermore, the point that some women would not date a balding man is not very valid coming from a BLADING MAN saying he would not be with a woman with thinning hair.

I don't understand your logic, eliza, on this sentence. It is _natural_ for a man to lose his hair -- most of them do at some point and as you mentioned, it is socially acceptable (but frowned upon). It is however _unnatural_ for a woman to lose her hair and is not socially acceptable.

So why is it not valid for a balding man to say he wouldn't want to be with a balding woman? We don't want to be with someone that has some unnatural problem with them just, as the Gardener mentioned, men don't want to be with women with a "package."

Second, balding men despise their baldness and know quite fully what losing their hair has done to them both physically and emotionally. We can thus only imagine what hairloss must do to a woman! So, knowing this, why would we want to be with a balding woman? We would be reliving all our psychoses all over again.

It's not really hypocritical if you think about it. It would be hypocritical if we ourselves viewed our balding as some grace of God, the next best thing to sliced bread, but refused to date balding women. But we hate our balding with every atom in our body, so it is logical that we would hate it on women as well.

D.

 

[douggie]

I obviously was not referring to the "positive" comments made. Furthermore, the point that some women would not date a balding man is not very valid coming from a BLADING MAN saying he would not be with a woman with thinning hair. Even if that's they way you feel, it's rather heartless to post it in a public forum. At the very least it is more socially accepted for a man to be bald, even more, it can be considered sexy. But it's going to be even harder for a balding a**h** without intelligence enough not to post comments like these to find a women who does not mind about his lack of hair.

I don't like rollerblading so stop calling me a blading man.

Oh, I agree that it is much more accepted for a man to be bald than a woman, but it is much more accepted for a man to have hair than one to not have hair either so who the hell cares?

My statement is perfectly valid. Some women like Asparagus, others don't. In the same respect some find balding unattractive. I watched Room Raiders the other day and the producers secretly hid Rogaine in the guy's room and the girl made a point to say that his "balding" concerned her. So what, big deal, there are millions of other women out there.

Furthermore, I said that I WOULD probably date a bald girl if she had a nice rack, I never said I wouldn't date a thinning girl. Even if I wouldn't date a balding woman, it is not hypocritical for me to say because I am not condemning women for not wanting balding men. I find it a perfectly logical decision for them to make. Everyone has some level of supericial tendencies and there is nothing wrong with that, I mean who wants to date someone that, to them, is unattractive? In the same respect, these people get pissed when someone states a distaste for that persons demographic, I do not.

Some people sit in their room and go woe is me, I choose not to. I still have a full head of hair, but I know it will be gone within 10 years. I definitely don't consider myself as still "normal" as flux said, I just don't get my panties in a bunch as easily as most people. I could sit in my room all day and go woe as me, but is that really gonna change anything other than ruining my social life.

 

[douggie]

I wouldn't date a fat chick, don't know about bald. If she had hair similar in density to mine I prolly would. I imagine if she had nice boobs I may ignore a bald head also.

All in all, it's just a preference thing. Some women care about hair and some don't and I am sure it is the other way around.

Would you date a girl with a package?

How big of a package? :lol:

 

[eliza]

It's not "un-natural" for a women to lose her hair. Almost 30 million women in the United States alone are losing their hair. It's just not as noticeable to most people because it's a diffuse thinning. You're obviously not educated on the subject. You probably meet women everyday with it, and just do not recognize the problem. Alas, I'm done with this discussion.

 

[drinkrum]

Listen b**ch.

Before you come off and call me uneducated, you better know who I am and where I come from. I am probably more educated about hairloss than you are and you have no reason nor right in going "femi-Nazi" on me.

I notice women who have diffused thinning all the time -- in fact, that is my type of hairloss. It is _unnatural_ for women to lose their hair. First, society has not yet deemed it OK or natural and it is still much of a taboo subject. Also it usually involves a hormonal imbalance (hence it usually occurs during/after menopause when estrogen levels are low), while male pattern baldness does not present itself as abnormal on any medical test.

Now, I could go on and on and prove my case. But I won't. If you didn't understand the logic of my previous post, then you probably won't understand anything "medical" or remotely rationale.

D.

 

[eliza]

Exactly, you seem very educated.

 

[Guest]

First off, I don't see the reason for you to resort to calling her a b**ch. Frankly, hair loss is a b**ch, so shouldn't we all be empathetic towards each other, as we're all in the same boat.

Also it usually involves a hormonal imbalance (hence it usually occurs during/after menopause when estrogen levels are low), while male pattern baldness does not present itself as abnormal on any medical test.

That is not necessarily true. Most of the women who complain about androgenetic alopecia have normal levels of hormones. In fact, the majority of the women who post on my forum have normal hormone levels, but are suffering from hair loss just as much as you are. So before you blast her for "probably not understanding anything medical", you should read up a bit before making such statements.

In no way am I trying to pick a fight with you but I felt compelled to try and dispell the myth of female Androgenetic Alopecia being a solely hyperandrogenic condition.

Who cares whether or not it's unnatural or natural? But to clear that up, unnatural in its definition means "not being in accordance with nature or consistent with a normal course of events". According to Keratin.com, "Androgenetic alopecia, androgenic alopecia, or pattern baldness, has been a part of the human race for as long as we have historical records. Evolutionary evidence suggests androgenetic alopecia has been around longer than the modern human race. Our nearest non-human primate relatives, orangutans and gorillas can also develop androgenetic alopecia." Therefore, hair loss is a natural thing, a process. I do agree that on the surface, the majority of women do not appear to be losing their hair, no matter what age. The reason is pretty obvious -- if they perceive they are losing their hair, they usually take dramatic cosmetic steps to cover this up, such as changing their haircuts to be more flattering, dying or highlighting their hair, using many products, etc.

Anyway I need to get back to my paper, but regards nonetheless

Laura

 

[Guest]

anyone here using T-Gel?


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[drinkrum]

Laura,

I rightly called eliza a "b**ch" because she erupted after reading my initial post, which was very pleasant and articulated, and called me "not educated."

I understand female hairloss is just as destructive as male hairl oss if not more so. However, it is still considered mostly unnatural in the medical and social communities. This is why men are told to "just deal with it" and women are given a battery of tests, etc. when complaining about the hair loss situation.

Can you please provide me some proof that supports your claim that most women with hair loss have normal hormone levels? The most common reason for female hair loss, as you'll see documented in numerous Web sites and medical journals, is a change in hormonal profile. I am not talking about just genetic alopecia but also about anagen effluvium and telogen effluvium -- which are arguably more common reasons for hair loss in women than genetic predispositions. Also, genetic predispositions of hair loss in women can be a normal reaction to an _abnormal_ hormonal profile as well as an abnormal reaction to a normal hormonal profile. Indeed, there are many more facets to female hair loss than male hair loss, and hence, the medical community tends to spend more time with women and usually sends men off on their way, telling them their hair loss is normal.

My inital message was to claim that eliza's comment about balding men disliking balding women was in fact not invalid but completely logical. That, for some reason, caused her to attack me as uneducated. Perhaps she couldn't understand the logic.

D.

 

[eliza]

D.

If you were as educated as you claim to be about the condition, then you would know that a lot time if has nothing to do with hormonal inbalances. Men and women have male and female hormones and people's sensitivity to the hormones can vary.

 

[drinkrum]

Yes eliza, but men and women are different. And hair loss is different in men and women. I didn't say that it was _always_ caused by hormonal imbalance. But for women, especially vis-a-vis men, the wealth of medical literature suggests that hormonal balances play a huge role in hair loss for women, as I mentioned in my previous post. This is the reason a full hormonal assay is done on women who complain about hair loss and why men get the "it's normal" routine.

D.