Bubka, is my regimen too complicated?

CCS

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Internals:
*Proscar 1.25mg EOD $11/m
*Dutasteride 0.1mg (in ethanol in frindge) EOD $3/m

Shampoos Rotating: (2mL per use) $4/m
*Nizoral 1%
*Body Shop Ginger (Piroctone Olamine)

Topicals:
*GTE/applepoly/white curcumin, 2x per day $1-2/m
*Minoxidil 4% w/ 0.01% retin-A, bed time $3-6/m
*RU58841 2% bed time (replace with something cheaper) $40/m
*Old version AC spray EOD (get Tricomin) $1/m (Tr = $4/m)

Cover ups for dates:
*Dermmatch between grafts $1/m
*Baseball cap on Dermmatch off days

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It's OK for me, though I hate topicals, so even this is borderline for me.

I use the Dutas to save money on Proscar, and because dutasteride might inhibit slightly different forms of 5ar2 more than finasteride does. Also, I don't like letting 5ar2 recuperate for 2 days straight. I think the Proscar EOD by itself would be good enough regardless. Since monkeys at finasteride powder with their food, cutting the Proscar should not be a problem.

The ginger shampoo is 250mL for $10, free shipping, and the Nizoral 1% is $15 for 7oz. I do a pre-wash if I think my scalp is dirty, but usually the shampoo's lather just fine.

I get the 95% GTE and applepoly in bulk powder very cheaply, and the white curcumin is $7 for 10g. So that 2% topical costs almost nothing.
Applepoly has growth stimulants in it,
EGCG in GTE is an AR inhibitor
curcumin is a 5ar inhibitor that inhibits types 1 and 2, reducing hampster flank organ growth 80% in the presence of testosterone.
Anti-oxidants protect the skin from immune attack.

The minoxidil is walmart's equate minoxidil, 3 for $19 after tax. I removed 12mL and add 12mL of Lee's 0.05% Retin-A, which I store in the fridge.
Sometimes I use it twice a day, but at night with RU works well.
Minoxidil with Retin-A in it has been used in studies and shown at 6 months to be as effective as minoxidil twice daily. Not sure if it is the increased absorption or AR downregulation.

1.5mL of 2% RU costs me $40 per month, though I don't plan to continue it, since the rest of my regimen costs me less than $30 per month and may be strong enough. Maybe I'll put one of Micheal Berry's oils in my GTE and call it done.

If a continue the CP's, I'll use 1mL of tricomin EOD and make 180mL last 1year. I think skin remodling is cumulative.
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If I remove the RU, my regimen is well under $30 per month. The topicals are not as nice as foam, but the AC spray and anti-oxidants don't seem to be as cosmetically bad as the minoxidil, which I usually apply before bed or an hour or so before a shower. I don't apply them right before going out.
 

RaginDemon

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You really love your hair that much for going through all this.

The most I will do is big 3, I am not down doing any more than that.
 

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RaginDemon said:
You really love your hair that much for going through all this.

The most I will do is big 3, I am not down doing any more than that.

How much hair have you lost? If you hit NW3 and thought it was the reason you never had a girlfriend, and you got grafted back to NW2, I bet you'd care a lot about making sure you did not get a bald line between the two.


It is easy to say hair does not matter when you have it. It takes a few years without it, with rejections, before you realize it matters.
 

ShedMaster

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CCS, do you have any pics (before surgery either/or after surgery)? I would be curious to see them.

Thanks.
 

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I have pictures of how I look now. I wish I had before and after surgery pics.
 

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collegechemistrystudent said:
I have pictures of how I look now. I wish I had before and after surgery pics.

if so then where? I would be interested to see how your hair looks now, post-surgery.
 

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it looks exactly the same as it did 6 months ago, when I posted pics in the surgical section. But my hair cut makes it look better, and I think the top back has filled in more.
 

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Re:

bubka said:
WHAT IS?

*Dutasteride 0.1mg (in ethanol in frindge) EOD $3/m

I cut up 4 Dutas capsules into a rinsed out empty minoxidil bottle. I add 10mL of Everclear with a new minoxidil pipette. I then pipette 0.5mL of that nasty mix into a mouth full of milk and swallow fast and trace it with more milk. That is 0.1mg in my mouth. I take it every other day. That lasts me 40 days. It costs me $3 per month extra, and the proscar costs me $11 per month.

But now I'm doing 0.25mL every day, to be more even. I do it 12 hours opposite my Proscar 0.625mg.

My goal here is to get Propecia strength at a low price and make sure my drug matches my 5ar2 type so I'll be a better responder. The proscar is the cornerstone of my regimen, and the topicals are the hope of my regimen.
 
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