baldness gene identified by german researchers

YoungGuy18

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050610/hl_ ... aldness_dc

Is this at all credible? They say androgen receptors are why you lose your hair, which is inherited from your mom. Man if hairloss comes from the moms side im screwed. They have to destroy my little shred of hope that i picked up my dads gene. But i just dont get it, i have blonde hair. Nobody on my moms side has ever had blonde hair, only on my dads side. We have the exact same color, texture, and loss at the same ages. My moms family only has dark thick curly hair not even close to mine. I dont believe this study for this sole reason. I just dont believe that hairloss is caused from your moms side. There are many studies that are contradictory to one another. Can you really take them into account? Oh yea, what are the best androgen receptor blockers?

YG
 

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I'm in exactly the same dilemma as you....

My dad's side of the family has very minimal hair loss, only slight overall thinning. And my hair color , texture, hairline etc. are practically identical to my dad's side (have fine, slightly wavy, and not very dark hair which greys VERY late).
My mom's side has some male pattern baldness. My mom herself has thick hair, thicker now at her age than I have ever had, although she has quite a bit of grey hair. My maternal grandfather is bald (NW6) and his son (my uncle) has suffered the same fate, he is a NW5 heading to a NW6. Both went bald at the same age and pretty much the same pattern. Now how did my uncle's loss come from his father, and not from HIS maternal grandfather (my greatgrandfather on my maternal grandmother's side, who did'nt lose much hair, even though he lived past 80) if what this study says is correct? I think hairloss can be inherited from EITHER side.
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Arjun
 

gonna_win

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*cheers to scientists* Looks like it's 1 more step in the direction of a cure :D
 

Armando Jose

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Personal experiences also take part of science.

IMHO common baldness is not a genetic event. Genetic is governed by evolution, and human being is the most evolutionated in hair biology. We are the naked monkey, but not necessarily the "bald" monkey.

Genes are responsibles of texture, color, thikness, density, etc. but, also for baldness?? I don't think like that.

Armando
 

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Armando Jose said:
Personal experiences also take part of science.

IMHO common baldness is not a genetic event. Genetic is governed by evolution, and human being is the most evolutionated in hair biology. We are the naked monkey, but not necessarily the "bald" monkey.

Genes are responsibles of texture, color, thikness, density, etc. but, also for baldness?? I don't think like that.

Armando

Baldness is not genetic? Then what is it? A happenstance event that occurs when Jupiter lines up in between the constellations Leo and Draco? Those born on that day will be bald!

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chewbaca

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Watever it is u cant yet dismiss the research yet since they have broken down genes and studied a pattern which was obviously there....They might have compared their anecdotal evidence with their scientific findings and came up with the conclusions for the layman reading it....
 

chewbaca

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my own stepfather observing him has given me soem clues...His father had a ful l head of hair so doe shis mother....But he lost his hair..SO where did his baldness gene come from?

Cant b e from father......so the next candidate should be his mother...Strange...
 

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God bless those scientists, at least they are trying somthing
 

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chewbaca said:
my own stepfather observing him has given me soem clues...His father had a ful l head of hair so doe shis mother....But he lost his hair..SO where did his baldness gene come from?

Cant b e from father......so the next candidate should be his mother...Strange...


It can be passed by parents without being expressed.
 

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chewbaca said:
my own stepfather observing him has given me soem clues...His father had a ful l head of hair so doe shis mother....But he lost his hair..SO where did his baldness gene come from?

Cant b e from father......so the next candidate should be his mother...Strange...

If it comes from the mother than it is on the X chromosome. Women have 2 Xs and give one of them to their male, and female offspring. So your stepdad got hios mom's good X. Unfortunately for me I didn't get my grandmother's good X, so I either got her bad X or my grandfather's terrible X.
 

pleasehelpme

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are you serious? this can't be true because my grandfather on my mother's side is 80 and has NO male pattern baldness and super thick+straight hair.
 

chewbaca

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Cooreect me but this was what i posted earlier about some cmplex equation stuff about mum inheritance.....i got ridiculed for that.....

Well i think the baldness gene in my stepdad's case is inherited from mum..but how can he inherit anything bad to hair from his dad since his dad didnt have male pattern baldness....so he inherited fromhis mum who mght have inherited it from her own mum and dad...either one of them.....but i beleive that my staepdad might have got it lying dormant in his mum....THis hsows that Mum is the culrpit for the majority of the blame......thee theory which says inheritance from the dad....how can anyone verify? for all u know it all came from the mum and the dad just happened to bald co-incidentally causing the blame to be put onto him....So if the above scsneraio is true.....then it just doesnt matter if your dad is bald or not....it is the mum which makes the difference
 

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My thesis is more simple: sebum play a important and definitive role in common baldness. Genetics needs a evolutionary cause, and It's better for human being develop baldness??
Please if you want, visit http://www.againstalopeciaandbaldness.com

Armando

drinkrum said:
Armando Jose said:
Personal experiences also take part of science.

IMHO common baldness is not a genetic event. Genetic is governed by evolution, and human being is the most evolutionated in hair biology. We are the naked monkey, but not necessarily the "bald" monkey.

Genes are responsibles of texture, color, thikness, density, etc. but, also for baldness?? I don't think like that.

Armando

Baldness is not genetic? Then what is it? A happenstance event that occurs when Jupiter lines up in between the constellations Leo and Draco? Those born on that day will be bald!

D.
 

Armando Jose

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No flamming

TynanW said:
Armando Jose you, sir, are an idiot. :)

Hi Tynan;

You must to be on your best behavior if you want became a interesting guy and insults are not the best way.

Can I ask why you consider me as an idiot?. Please, which is your statement?

Armando
 
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Armando Jose said:
TynanW said:
Armando Jose you, sir, are an idiot. :)

Hi Tynan;

You must to be on your best behavior if you want became a interesting guy and insults are not the best way.

Can I ask why you consider me as an idiot?. Please, which is your statement?

Armando

I think he is calling you an idiot based on your statement in an earlier post which read....

Personal experiences also take part of science.

IMHO common baldness is not a genetic event. Genetic is governed by evolution, and human being is the most evolutionated in hair biology. We are the naked monkey, but not necessarily the "bald" monkey.

Genes are responsibles of texture, color, thikness, density, etc. but, also for baldness?? I don't think like that.

Armando


I don't think you are an idiot. I think your ideas about hair loss will help us understand more about us and bald monkeys and visa versa.
 

YoungGuy18

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GOOD NEWS-

I read an related article from the german researches and they say that ofcourse you can recieve your dads hair gene but they feel that you are more likely to get it from your mom. At least I will most likely end up a nw3, heh its better then nothing.

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to youngguy18

Yeah its definitely possible to get dad's hair gene, but I think it is equally likely to get it either from dad or mom. Generally (there may be some exceptions, but so far I have'nt seen any) if your hair type resembles your dad's (or maternal granddad as the case may be) you'll approximate their balding (or non-balding) pattern as well. So its good that your dad has only limited hair loss (nw3) . Its very similar for me as well, there is only slight overall thinning on my dad's side along with the usual NW2 mature hairline. But it sometimes looks worse than it is because we also have greasy scalps :( But it seems from your starting post that there is pretty bad male pattern baldness on your mom's side .... ditto for me. I'm just praying that I don't pick up those genes. By 30 , I'll pretty much know for sure, as my granddad was already past a NW2 by 30, and started thinning in the front soon after. (He is now a NW6, and has been so for 25 or so years)
BTW, its pretty interesting that you have started receding at 18, and will still most likely go no further than a NW3. That's pretty rare. Most non-bald (NW2) or slightly bald (NW3) guys would NOT have started receding so early. Maybe your recession is VERY slow and stops after some time.
Cheers,
Arjun
 

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pleasehelpme said:
are you serious? this can't be true because my grandfather on my mother's side is 80 and has NO male pattern baldness and super thick+straight hair.

Just skimming this thread I came across this post. Just letting you know that genes can lie dormant for many generations.
 
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