Balding Genes In Twins, Fine Vs Thick Hair

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Hi, this is my first post here. I am 18 years old and I am extremely afraid of the thought that I might go bald someday. I am a rockabilly greaser so my hair is everything to me.

Currently, I show no symptoms of baldness yet. Just regular shedding of hairs each day. However, my father is bald which he inherited from his mother. My mother's side has a family with a head full of thick hair, none of them bald.

I am born in a LARGE family of sextuplets, one girl and five boys. My sister and 3 of my brothers have thick hair and one of my brothers and I have fine hair. My hair is naturally fine, thin and straight but the front has somewhat of a bit of a wave to it. My mom believes that my hairtype and my other brother's is from my dad's genes, who had thick and wavy hair before going bald.

Now here is my main question: obviously all of us five brothers are at risk of balding due to our father. However, does having naturally fine and thin hair with a balding gene make it more likely for me to bald rather than 3 of my other brothers, who also have a balding gene but have thick hair?
If there are brothers who fall under the same risk of a balding father, is the one with thinner and finer hair more likely to go bald than his thicker haired brothers?
I AM EXTREMELY WORRIED.
 

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No way you can predict it don't waste your time. When the day comes you'll know when to treat it, catch it early and you'll be alright. Grease on my brother.
 

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I think the texture of your hair now doesn't dictate much (given you're not already balding and your hair isnt miniaturizing) but I'd imagine you'd start showing male pattern baldness signs way before your brothers did if you were to start balding at the same time.
 

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The hair type/texture doesn't determine whether you will bald whatsoever. You could inherit your dad's wavy hair without inheriting the balding gene. I inherited my grandpa's thick wavy hair, while both my brothers inherited thinner straight hair from my dad. Neither of them inherited male pattern baldness, but I did from somewhere. My grandpa that I inherited the thick, wavy hair from never went bald. Its all a game of luck whether you inherit male pattern baldness or not.

So to answer your question, no, having naturally fine and thin hair does not mean you are more likely to inherit the balding gene.
 

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Acording to my theory people with dense and thick hair are less prone to common baldness, but having naturally thin hair can preserved them from hairloss if the lenght of scalp hair is long, ..., but probably as you are a rockabilly you would have not problems.
 

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Acording to my theory people with dense and thick hair are less prone to common baldness, but having naturally thin hair can preserved them from hairloss if the lenght of scalp hair is long, ..., but probably as you are a rockabilly you would have not problems.

The thing that sucks is, last week my mom got really annoyed by my long sides so I have to get a high taper and thebtop of my hair is shorter too, reaches up to my forehead.
My sides used to reach longer than the bottom of my ear, now they are tapered up to the top, almost an undercut. The top used to reach to the bottom of my nose but now it reaches up to my forehead. I can't even slick my hair back anymore and I have to do it to the sides. I still grease up anyway. As long as it gives a little rockabilly vibe.
 

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Hi, this is my first post here. I am 18 years old and I am extremely afraid of the thought that I might go bald someday. I am a rockabilly greaser so my hair is everything to me.

Currently, I show no symptoms of baldness yet. Just regular shedding of hairs each day. However, my father is bald which he inherited from his mother. My mother's side has a family with a head full of thick hair, none of them bald.

I am born in a LARGE family of sextuplets, one girl and five boys. My sister and 3 of my brothers have thick hair and one of my brothers and I have fine hair. My hair is naturally fine, thin and straight but the front has somewhat of a bit of a wave to it. My mom believes that my hairtype and my other brother's is from my dad's genes, who had thick and wavy hair before going bald.

Now here is my main question: obviously all of us five brothers are at risk of balding due to our father. However, does having naturally fine and thin hair with a balding gene make it more likely for me to bald rather than 3 of my other brothers, who also have a balding gene but have thick hair?
If there are brothers who fall under the same risk of a balding father, is the one with thinner and finer hair more likely to go bald than his thicker haired brothers?
I AM EXTREMELY WORRIED.


Your hair you inherit is not the same thing as inheriting the sensitivity to DHT....so you can have your fathers Hair genes (look texture dentisty) and you Moms DHT sensitivity or hair loss genes...or vice versa.

I have my Dads hair but I think I have my Moms hair loss genetics.
Thankfully my Hair started crazy crazy dense and my hair loss has been mild/slow for most of my adult life but I do have hair loss in spite of a thick dense hair that my Father and his side ALL have...My Momn her Father and her brother and even her sister all very thin fine hair that went balding as they got older..

Hope that helps.

If you are concerned ask a Dermatologist to look at it with an instrument they have to check scalp..and go 1x a year to see if any difference..and you can start medication if you see change or want to prevent.
 

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The thing that sucks is, last week my mom got really annoyed by my long sides so I have to get a high taper and thebtop of my hair is shorter too, reaches up to my forehead.
My sides used to reach longer than the bottom of my ear, now they are tapered up to the top, almost an undercut. The top used to reach to the bottom of my nose but now it reaches up to my forehead. I can't even slick my hair back anymore and I have to do it to the sides. I still grease up anyway. As long as it gives a little rockabilly vibe.

Did you try pure jojoba oil as a grease? It can help you.
 

Armando Jose

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Please try it and post your result. Also you can mix it with your hair cosmetic.
 

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Thickness of the hair has nothing to do with whether you'll have hairloss or not. I'd say your current hairline shape is a better sign of whether you'll have hairloss in the future, but even then it's not 100% accurate. Still, 50% of men have hairloss by age 50 and it is said that number increases by 10% every ten years, so nevertheless as long as you're a man you'll have a really high chance of being bald in the future.
 

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Thickness of the hair has nothing to do with whether you'll have hairloss or not.

Have you any reason? It can see that people with dense and thick hair are people without hairloss, this is an example
 

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The man on the picture you posted is a nw2. He has visible hairloss and his temple recession is quite similar to mine albeit a little less evident due to his head shape. I can tell it by the position of his widow peak and the angle of his hairline.

Someone with no hairloss at all has a rounder shape without any triangular recession on the side of the head. The misleading thing is that some people never have NW0 even in their younger days. This is how a person with no hairloss should look like:asdasdasd.png

I had a similar hairline in the past so i know. The beginning of hairloss is a really small triangular recession of about 1cm that grows exponentially. What we consider a NW1 is someone who already has visible hairloss, but won't be seen as balding by the untrained eye.
 

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For a man his age he has great hair, his age doesn't change the fact he has visible hairloss. When he would reach NW7 is a different story, if that man lived to 120 and kept that very same head of hair i would be inclined to agree with you. But all evidence says that man has hairloss of a very mild form. One of the 20-30% more fortunate men as far as hairloss is concerned i suppose.
 

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My argument wasn't even about that. The man on the picture you posted armando, had visible hairloss and thus wasn't a proper example to use for your theory.

Regardless of that unless you conduct a study about it, it'll just remain as broscience. I have read some of your posts in the past about your sebum theory and considering your background i find it hard to believe you don't have the means to conduct a study on the matter.
 

Armando Jose

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I could conduct a study with a little help of my friends..... where are they? Accesing to the data of any trasplant hair doctor is easy to make it. Or in a university with a trichoscan is enough.

I am open to talk with interested people.
 

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If you have the possibility to conduct such a study please do so. Scientific studies are valuable, broscience in a forum is not. You could have a valid theory, that could be the foundation to a hairloss treatment or at least answer a few questions of the complicated puzzle of hairloss. But until you conduct a scientific study to see the veracity of your claim, it will be completely useless for the world, and would only be intellectual masturbation.

You are an engineer, right? That means you have graduated from a good university, so maybe you can present that theory to some of your peers and conduct that study with them. I cannot help you with that, i'm not qualified to conduct scientific studies.
 

Armando Jose

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If you have the possibility to conduct such a study please do so. Scientific studies are valuable, broscience in a forum is not. You could have a valid theory, that could be the foundation to a hairloss treatment or at least answer a few questions of the complicated puzzle of hairloss. But until you conduct a scientific study to see the veracity of your claim, it will be completely useless for the world, and would only be intellectual masturbation.

You are an engineer, right? That means you have graduated from a good university, so maybe you can present that theory to some of your peers and conduct that study with them. I cannot help you with that, i'm not qualified to conduct scientific studies.

Good advice, thanks, I'll try ...

But you should know that brainstorming is a very important tool in science,
 
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