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Discussion in 'Antiandrogens - Propecia, Dutasteride, etc.' started by finastride23, Dec 3, 2019 at 2:18 PM.

  1. finastride23

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    hi
    I’m started avodart 2 month ago and now my hair line receed
    I want to know is it normal?
    but I should say that,after I started dutastride my shed decreased but as I said my hair line become thinner
    plz help me if you are a avodart user
    my hair is become thinmer too what should I do
    finastride didn’t work work well for me
    I am 22
    and what is my norwood?

    https://imgur.com/XwpEAxq
     
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    pegasus2 Senior Member

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    Looks like norwood cemetary. I hope you enjoyed having hair while you had it.
     
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  3. finastride23

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    what is norwood cemetary?
     
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    pegasus2 Senior Member

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    Norwood 7
     
  5. finastride23

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    you mean soon I am going to be nw7?
     
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    BMax New Member My Regimen

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    Whats your crown like?

    Is it only your hair line that you are worried about?
     
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    Ollie Senior Member My Regimen

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    How long did you use finasteride for ?
     
  8. finastride23

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    no my crown is good just my hair line,how bad is it in my age?
     
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    about one year but It was the cheapest fina and I think didn’t work because when I took finpecia it gave me nice regrowth in short time but I could’t find finpecia in my country any more
     
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    pegasus2 Senior Member

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    Nah, you'll be good. You can try and dermarolling and minoxidil to get your hairline back, but as long as you're on dutasteride you will be ok.
     
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    I think I am not a good responder to minoxidil I tried it before duta and my hair got a bit better by the way thanks for your reply
     
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    Anatoly New Member My Regimen

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    microneedling along with minoxidil makes it 4 times as effective.
     
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    Anatoly New Member My Regimen

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    Do you mean microneedling for better absorption (0.25-1.5) or microneedling (1.5+) to trigger wound healing?
     
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    They are both the same thing. It does help with absorption, but the main mechanism of action is through wound healing. Follica's latest data suggest that you don't need to go higher than .25mm to trigger the wound healing process.
     
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    Follica's latest data suggest that you don't need to go higher than .25mm to trigger the wound healing process.[/QUOTE]

    I used .25mm for a week. I doubt it produced any visible wounds, although it facilitated absorption. Despite thorough precautionary measures, I acquired infection and severe inflammation. I dropped dermaroller. Then I found that dermaroller is inferior to microneedling by e.g. Dr Pen, the latter allows strictly vertical penetration and no torn skin, thus reducing the risk of infection. I'm considering adding this option once a week, probably 1-1.5.
     
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    Ikarus Senior Member My Regimen

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    You could use anti-androgens, that’s the only option for non-responders to dutasteride...
     
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    anti-androgens, that’s the only option for non-responders to dutasteride...[/QUOTE]
    Any experience with immunosuppressants for pattern hair loss? Tofacitinib seems to have an acceptable risk profile than e.g. better known cyclosporine. I have seen impressive results with tofacitinib - man had to quit finasteride, as it ruined his beard.
     
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    I used .25mm for a week. I doubt it produced any visible wounds, although it facilitated absorption. Despite thorough precautionary measures, I acquired infection and severe inflammation. I dropped dermaroller. Then I found that dermaroller is inferior to microneedling by e.g. Dr Pen, the latter allows strictly vertical penetration and no torn skin, thus reducing the risk of infection. I'm considering adding this option once a week, probably 1-1.5.[/QUOTE]

    A week isn't even long enough for hair to reach the surface of the skin. Treatments take months to work. Yes, the pen is much better, and it's wounding you whether you see it or not. If your skin is red afterwards then you've been wounded. Check out the PDFs in the Follica thread. According to them dense wounding at at .15mm depth gives better results than the Dhurat study at 1.5mm depth. Density is more important than depth, and there's no need to do it every day. For their study they only did it once in three months and it worked. New follicles begin appearing with two weeks, although it takes them longer to reach the surface of the skin and then become visible.
     
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    Immunosuppressants don't seem to be effective for pattern hair loss in most people. Even cyclosporine only worked on 2 out of 11 people, and the MoA for it working was determined in a separate study to be Wnt activation, so a Wnt disinhibitor like Sammumed's SM04554 would be better, and it's readily available from China.
     

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