Atraric Acid a Potent Antiandrogen

AnteUp

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I have known about Atraric Acid for many years. I learned about it because it is found in Pygeum bark, which many men use for BPH. I read about Ataric Acid a while back and no one seems to be that interested in it. This could be due to the fact that it comes from a natural source. However, Ataric Acid is a potent androgen receptor antagonist and has a high affinity for the androgen receptor. It binds to it and even prevents the translocation, meaning no matter what the androgen receptor will not produce a reaction. Not many antiandrogens can do this. This also applies to even mutated androgen receptors. NBBS is also an antiandrogen from pygeum, but I am more interested in Atraric Acid. If you do a simple search online, there are various articles stating that it is an antiandrogen, prevents nuclear translocation, agonist of estrogen receptors, and even a possible cure for prostate cancer. There are research companies that produce it, but I cannot find anyone that can mass produce it. I can say without a doubt that Atraric Acid will be better than RU58841 and CB-03-01. Why? Because it is proven to prevent nuclear translocation of the androgen receptor, while the other two cannot. RU58841 and CB-03-01 just competitively bind to the androgen receptor which Atraric Acid does as well.

Atraric Acid can be easily purchased online as a powder or solution. It is used as a fragrance under the names Veramoss, Verymoss, and Evernyl.

Links:
http://www.pubfacts.com/search/atraric+acid
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discovery_and_development_of_antiandrogens#Natural_antiandrogens

Let' s compare RU58841, CB-03-01, and Atraric Acid:

RU58841:

Pros:Reliable Sources, Ancedotal evidence that is works in stopping hair loss from different forums (some claim thickening), scientific evidence that it binds to the androgen receptor, short half life

Cons:Expensive, stability in question(pre-made solution, room temp),side effects have been reported, RU metabolites have not been demonstrated as safe nor do we know much about them


CB-03-01:

Pros:Reliable pharmaceutical company, Phase testing for acne, hair, hirsutism, safety(if testing goes well and it gets FDA clearance)

Cons:Lots of questions need to be answered (potency, half life, metabolites, cost) It should be expensive, coming from a pharm company


Atraric Acid:

Pros:Cheap, prostate and animal studies showing high potency to androgen receptors and preventing nuclear translocation, does not need to be metabolized to work so can be used topically, has been ingested via pygeum by men with no known side effects

Cons:No testing done on human hair, no information about half life or metabolites

Using Atraric Acid topically is the experiment and by trial and error we may find that it can stop our hair loss and possibly thicken our existing hair. This is no different from the people who started using RU58841 years ago. I believe that Atraric Acid will be better than RU and CB; unless there is a rare chance that it interacts and/or counteracts with another topical. If that is the case then we still have RU58841 and hopefully in the future CB-03-01.
 

hellouser

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I'm willing to try it.
 

whatevr

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Me too, probably. Anyone got a source?
 

frenchy

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what vehicule will you use ?
 

AnteUp

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Atraric acid is sold by fragrance companies under three different names: Veramoss, Verymoss, and Evernyl. Simply do a search, find a seller, and buy it. Buy it as a powder or in solution in a liquid. Information about its solubility is online as well. Remember this is an experiment. Use it like it is RU58841. It is soluble in isopropyl myristate and dipropylene glycol and you can dilute it with alcohol. My suggestion is to make a 10% solution. So 100mg/mL of solution. If you buy a powder, make a 50% alocohol and 50% isopropyl myristate (I recommend this) OR dipropylene glycol solution. If you buy it as a solution add enough alcohol to turn it into a 10% solution. Good luck and report back.
 

minoxiDjunkie

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do we know how strong ataric acid is ?
i mean maybe its just a weak anti androgen, like tea or saw palmetto.. ?
 

HairShocka

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Is anybody using this? I'm kind of interested.
 

abcdefg

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If common supplement makers sold the stuff then its much easier to know what your getting. Although who knows how much of the stuff it takes to get some certain androgen inhibition level
 

Risugo

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It sounds strange that nobody haven't tested it before.
 

ALightInTheDark

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A user on hairlosshelp had already tested it I think barbeosa or barbarossa I dont remember.

Formula :
Bee Venom : .005 et .01% and distilled water, ethanol, and polyethylene glycol (in a 5 : 3 : 2 ratio) => In the Studies

Tested formula (by him) :
- VeneX® Ointment 0.2% Apitoxin OR 0,2 to 0,5% Apitoxin (pure powder) (do not take NDGA /Apitoxin with a topical RU,it's either one or the other,you can't take both. Don't know if yit's good to mix NDGA and Apitoxin)
- 3% to 4% NorDihydroGuairetic Acid = Chaparral (thepersonalformulator.com)
- 2% Emodin = rheum palmatum
- 10% atraric acid/ Pygeum -> Atraric Acid via Veramoss, Verymoss, and Evernyl 10%.
- 3% caffeine
- Vehicle : Serioxyl vehicle + 1% DMSO OR lecithine + bicarbonate of soda + microwaves + water + 2.5% DMSO
 
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folfoxorack

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And it worked?
 

ALightInTheDark

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And it worked?

It is a mysterious member so he came in 2016 in HLH but never came back. He said he gained 2 Norwood with that and he was NW7 (now a strong NW5 he had pics but got deleted since it's from a french forum)
He had strong research and background with his formula.
I'm little skeptical about NDGA/Chapparal which is apparently better than OC and Bee Venom his equivalent.
But if you can't afford RU and can't go fina because of X reason,try this.
 

folfoxorack

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@ALightInTheDark : Ok, I tried RU, but it was too weak, and I had fake ... So I don't want to try over this bad experience. thanks for your reply.
 
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