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eddy_simpson

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Look at actors De Niro, Stallone, Schwarzenegger, Pacino...they each have noticeable recession 15 years ago.

Today they have great heads of hairs for men of their age.

I can't see how it can be anything other than one or more of the following:

a) Incredible surgery that isn't publicly available

b) Incredible treatment that isn't publicly available

c) Incredible wigs that aren't publicly available

Or perhaps they've just been extremely lucky with their responses to propecia/minoxidil.

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beaner

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I honestly don't believe either DeNiro or Pacino has had anything done. Pacino's hair is noticeably thinner than it was 15 years ago in my opinion and DeNiro's hair has always looked the same to me except a bit of temple recession over the last 30 years. Although, they both are in their 60's and could be having prostate problems......

Stallone wears a wig--that one's pretty obvious if you compare pics of him. His hairline is currently way too low and thick for it to be anything else.

I'm not sure about Arnold, although I've heard he may have had transplants in the front, which I wouldn't doubt, although his hair is noticeably thinner with a higher hairline than it was in the 80's in my opinion.

I'm not sure what you know of transplants and wigs, but they've come a long way and can be pretty much undetectable to the casual observer and are readily available to the general public.
 

monitoradiation

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I can't comment on most of them; but there are pictures of Stallone that shows that he's had plugs, I believe. His hairline looks horrible.
 

s.a.f

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The best surgery the best wigs and proffesional stylists to make the best of them.
 

Fundi

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Not everyone who gets temporal recession will end up noticeably balding.


De Niro I don't think will ever go bald, he's also buzzed his hair for roles, it's clearly not a wig.

As for Pacino apparently in the later Godfather film they actually thinned out his hair! As it was seen as too thick for the age of the man he was playing.

On another note, one thing I've noticed about Italian men is at the age of 40-60, it's as common for them to be balding as it is with any other white male. - But in their 20s/early 30s, most have perfect, thick NW1 hair. It's like baldness hits them all eventually like any other race, but generally starts a bit later.
 

eddy_simpson

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beaner said:
I honestly don't believe either DeNiro or Pacino has had anything done. Pacino's hair is noticeably thinner than it was 15 years ago in my opinion

If you compare his hair in 1990, to how it is now, I say there's a minimal difference over the space of 18 years. Fundi do you have a source for the comment about Pacino's hair being thinned out intentionally for the role? I don't doubt you read it somewhere, just that the source was reputable. There's clear recession at the same time, in the same pattern as now so I'm convinced this was his real state of hair.

As for Deniro, I may be mistaken about the long-term recession. His hairline appears to be very mature as far back as raging bull. He could be in the same boat as Jonny Depp in this respect - ie naturally v mature hairline, albeit one that has developed a little bit in last few years. How about his goodfellas counterpart Ray Liotta though?


What about the verrrryyy gradual progressions of harrison ford, tom hanks, robin williams? All natural patterns or are we in the dark about something?
 

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eddy_simpson said:
beaner said:
I honestly don't believe either DeNiro or Pacino has had anything done. Pacino's hair is noticeably thinner than it was 15 years ago in my opinion

If you compare his hair in 1990, to how it is now, I say there's a minimal difference over the so I'm convinced this was his real state of hair.

What about the verrrryyy gradual progressions of harrison ford, tom hanks, robin williams? All natural patterns or are we in the dark about something?

I agree there's minimal difference.(In Pacino's hair) In first reading your post, I thought you meant that you once thought these actors were balding and now are suddenly not.

Robin Williams had a transplant a few years back, although prior to that his balding seemed pretty slow. Again, you must remember that when these people are in public or on camera they may be wearing rugs or concealers etc. Also, not all people go bald at the same rate. It took me 12 or so years to lose what my little brother lost in 2.

In contemplating hair loss, you really should not look to celebrities for an example.
 

eddy_simpson

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beaner said:
In contemplating hair loss, you really should not look to celebrities for an example.

Why do you feel this way beaner? Do you not feel that wealthy public figures will be most likely to be privy to the most advanced hair loss prevention methods available?

Also we can look at celebrities as case studies. For example if we know that De Niro has had hair transplants we can clearly see the merits of them. I see value in this.
 

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eddy_simpson said:
beaner said:
In contemplating hair loss, you really should not look to celebrities for an example.

Why do you feel this way beaner? Do you not feel that wealthy public figures will be most likely to be privy to the most advanced hair loss prevention methods available?

Also we can look at celebrities as case studies. For example if we know that De Niro has had hair transplants we can clearly see the merits of them. I see value in this.

Celebrities do not represent the general population---you will never know the true extent of a celebrity's hair loss, unless he (like Travolta) will reveal it candidly in a public situation. You will only see the illusion created by Hollywood.

No, I don't believe celebrities are privy to more advanced hair loss prevention methods--there are none. They may be able to afford the top of the line surgeons and wig weavers, but these are available to anyone.

Are you under some assumption that there are super secret celebrity hair loss treatments available?
 

Tdevil

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Arnold has plugs.

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Mike Myers sports a toupee.

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Kevin Costner has a decent looking hair transplant.

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Charlie Sheen has had extensive hair transplant work done to his head.

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Ben Affleck is a bad actor with a great hair transplant.

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Matthew Perry has a hair transplant.

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This is a wig.
 

Fundi

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eddy_simpson said:
beaner said:
I honestly don't believe either DeNiro or Pacino has had anything done. Pacino's hair is noticeably thinner than it was 15 years ago in my opinion

If you compare his hair in 1990, to how it is now, I say there's a minimal difference over the space of 18 years. Fundi do you have a source for the comment about Pacino's hair being thinned out intentionally for the role? I don't doubt you read it somewhere, just that the source was reputable. There's clear recession at the same time, in the same pattern as now so I'm convinced this was his real state of hair.

As for Deniro, I may be mistaken about the long-term recession. His hairline appears to be very mature as far back as raging bull. He could be in the same boat as Jonny Depp in this respect - ie naturally v mature hairline, albeit one that has developed a little bit in last few years. How about his goodfellas counterpart Ray Liotta though?


What about the verrrryyy gradual progressions of harrison ford, tom hanks, robin williams? All natural patterns or are we in the dark about something?

It was a magazine years ago - Could well not be true though as you say. As for Ray Liotta - His hair looks worse now than it did in Goodfellas, normal slow male pattern baldness.

As for Johnny Depp and De Niro, nah. I know several guys who had bigger temples than them back in school and full heads of hair now, they don't even know what Propecia is. Just a mature hairline.
 

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Not sure about Pacino, but De Niro is au naturale, Ray Liotta also natural.

Arnie and Sly definitely had work done. Tom Hanks also has had work done
 

Fundi

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I'm confused about Tom Hanks, his hairline is clearly receeding, but has he had work done? I saw a chronological order of his haircuts and it seemed like his hair got better - But I can only assume they got the order wrong. In The Da Vinci code he's combing his hair back, it's thinning/receeding and looks very natural - Isn't transplanted hair pretty much 'permanent' and wouldn't deteriorate but thinning at the front.
 

Tdevil

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Fundi said:
I'm confused about Tom Hanks, his hairline is clearly receeding, but has he had work done? I saw a chronological order of his haircuts and it seemed like his hair got better - But I can only assume they got the order wrong. In The Da Vinci code he's combing his hair back, it's thinning/receeding and looks very natural - Isn't transplanted hair pretty much 'permanent' and wouldn't deteriorate but thinning at the front.

Contrary to what some people say, hair transplants are not always permanent and can deteriorate. Tom Hanks has reportedly had some work done.
 

s.a.f

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Ok my views on the previous posts:

Affleck is a wig not a hair transplant.
Perry - I have no reason to believe its not his natural hair.
Arnold has had transplants but using the Conan picture as a before example is crazy (ITS A MOVIE WIG).

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Ray LIotta = Wig
Stallone = Wig

Everything else I pretty much agree with.
 

Tdevil

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s.a.f said:
Affleck is a wig not a hair transplant.

After checking other sources, I found that you're right about Affleck.
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He and Vince Vaughn (who also had a hair transplant) were "play fighting" at some party and his hair piece ended up coming off!!!
 

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beaner said:
I honestly don't believe either DeNiro or Pacino has had anything done. Pacino's hair is noticeably thinner than it was 15 years ago in my opinion and DeNiro's hair has always looked the same to me except a bit of temple recession over the last 30 years. Although, they both are in their 60's and could be having prostate problems......

Stallone wears a wig--that one's pretty obvious if you compare pics of him. His hairline is currently way too low and thick for it to be anything else.

I'm not sure about Arnold, although I've heard he may have had transplants in the front, which I wouldn't doubt, although his hair is noticeably thinner with a higher hairline than it was in the 80's in my opinion.

I'm not sure what you know of transplants and wigs, but they've come a long way and can be pretty much undetectable to the casual observer and are readily available to the general public.

Pacinio has DEFINATELY had some work done. http://www.moviestar.nu/articles/baldmo ... glish.html


-DH
 

s.a.f

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Hey I watched Terminator 2 on tv last night and in some scenes it seemed almost obvious to me that Arnie was wearing a piece. I'm totally convinced of it. In frontal close ups the hair looked unnatural/synthetic and in some scenes there was a definite big colour difference between the hair ontop and the hair on the sides/back.

Funnily enough I've seen the movie loads of times before but this was the first time I ever watched it and spent so much time looking at his hair. But think about it if Arnie was wearing back in 91 what is his situation now and how many others in Hollywood are doing something to hide their real situation.
 
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