Apple Procyanidins (extracted from Apples).

[sam-]

Late in 2000, Japanese researchers presented their findings to the international community on the hair growing effects of apple polyphenols- specifically one known as procyanidin B-2.

The researchers had spent years testing over 1,000 botanical extracts for hair growth properties. They identified two successful compounds- one from chardonnay grapes, and one extracted from unripe apples.

Two more clinical trials and a total of seven published studies have now confirmed the surprising hair growth-promoting effects of apple procyanidins. Here is a summary of those findings:

* Total Number of Hairs: Significantly Increased
* Total Number of Terminal Hairs: Significantly Greater
* Increase in Hair Diameter: 78.9% Positive
* Ratio of Thicker (terminal) Hairs: Significantly Higher
* Compared to Minoxidil: Up to 200% Better
* Hair Follicle Activation: Intensive

Source:
http://www.applepoly.com


what do you think folks, true or scam ?

 

[latecomer]

sounds interesting but i dont know to be honest. i think most people will say its a scam because no one else has ever tried it.

 

[wangho75]

sounds interesting but i dont know to be honest. i think most people will say its a scam because no one else has ever tried it.

If there is something Im willing to believe, something like this would be it.

 

[latecomer]

on the site it has a qoute from hairlosstalk too which says this may be a 'cure'. hairlosstalk, do u ever remember saying such things that you are qouted as saying on the site? If so then I was about to start on min but i might give this a go so i can tell others if it works or not.

Guys please let me know if you think I should give this product a go for at least 3 months or start min instead....i'm awaiting your feedback!

 

[Jacob]

The quote from HairLossTalk.com is most likely from the "study" or abstract...

The scientists speculated that antioxidants in procyanidin B-2 defeat male baldness by decreasing the scalp swelling that may cause hair loss. "The suppression of inflammation mediated by procyanidin B-2 returns the scalp to a healthy condition, consequently leading to a cure for baldness,"

Procyanidin B-2 therapy shows potential as a safe and promising cure for male pattern baldness. PMID: 11194183

I think it'd be a good addition to anyone's regimen..but I wouldn't use just that product. JMHO

 

[HairlossTalk]

Here's how it usually works:

1) Japanese scientist does study on X.

2) X does something that might help hair loss.

3) Ex car salesman or former failed businessman in USA decides to make money off hair loss sufferers.

4) Ex car salesman or former failed businessman creates a product with X ingredient in it, and sells it to consumers.

5) Ex car salesman or former failed businessman refers back to completely unsuspecting Japanese scientists study as a way to make a sale.

6) Confused hair loss sufferer isn't sure if he should use the product or not.

Ex car salesman or former failed businessman isn't technically lying. He's technically telling the truth. Until he starts to lie and say its a cure... or that it works for hair loss... since he has no data to support such a claim but ... Yes the study is legitimate. Yes it did show results. Yes this ingredient has been widely accepted as potentially helpful. I just wish there were some way to bottle it and say "X product works for hair loss". Thats the big challenge. I would give my left arm to be able to have another 20 products to refer to you guys.

Id say .... the most we can say at this point ... is ... use what we know "works" ... and if you as an intelligent adult with the ability to make his own decisions decide to add something like this as an extra possible 'Kick' ... go for it.

Jacob is correct - they aren't quoting us as saying its a cure.

HairLossTalk.com

 

[Jacob]

I realize you were just using the Japanese as an example..but I'd like to point out there are plenty of those in the USA even who do this. Which I think is fine..like you said one can just use it with other products.

One example is Dr Proctor.(go ahead..hit me with your best shot :lol: ) He has this "NANO". As far as I can tell there are more "studies" on procyanidins then there are for "NANO". I asked over at Hairsite and didn't get any response so I'm going by that. I did do some of my own research as well. Dr Proctor does keep mentioning some Japanese patent(s) as "proof" that "NANO" is good.. but there we go again. Japanese.