Aplunk1's 1-Year Avodart & Rogaine Results (/w More Phot
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Not getting a hard on as a result of taken Avodart, is just as much psychological than anything else.
Before we take Propecia of Avodart, we are made aware that it may have sexual side effects, by our peers (on forums) and even by doctors.
Because some people don't have a previous belief surrounding its effect (through lack of education), when they are told it will f#@K with your johnson, their subconscious minds believe it and in turn makes it a reality. That's human nature.
Before we take Propecia of Avodart, we are made aware that it may have sexual side effects, by our peers (on forums) and even by doctors.
Because some people don't have a previous belief surrounding its effect (through lack of education), when they are told it will f#@K with your johnson, their subconscious minds believe it and in turn makes it a reality. That's human nature.
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Aplunk1 said:
I think all he's saying is that some side effects can stem from psychological fears of the sides. When you hear from people on here and from natural competitors that propecia will give you or has a great chance of giving you sexual asides then some people will start to expect the sides and monitor their sexual behavior extra closely.
I don't doubt that you had sides, especially because you are experiencing none on dutasteride, but I do find it hard to believe that all the people on here who claim that they got sides actually had them. 3-4% is 3-4%, period. Not 75% like it seems on here. No one's penis falls off from these drugs.
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JayMan said:
I agree with you, I find it so hard to believe how many people on here get sides, and it must be because they are looking for them. So when the small changes take place (which the uninformed wouldn't notice) they immediately panic and believe they are getting bad sides.
However with the 3-4% or 2%, it must be remembered that this is just one study. A smaller but more recent study found the side effects of finasteride closer to 25%.
More importantly it should be remembered most drug companies get the results they want in their trials.
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JayMan said:
Before i started this stuff I could get it up anytime anywhere without even thiinking about it. It would actually bother me. Now on it I do have to make an effort and it (to me) feels just slightly less hard.... But its not like it fell off and i cant get it up at all. I actually feel like i have a little more control so it doesnt bother me none.
I know it isnt in my head because i jumped in not giving 2 shits about side effects and just wanting hair back. And from a social standpoint its always the people that have problems that complain(or look for answers)..... if someone isnt having any worries or problems on anything they usually dont say anything unless asked. Thats why you see the majority of people having problems and not a million "everything is fine" posts.
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aplunk, get the f*** off this website and never come back man. visiting this webpage when your hair looks like that is doing more harm than good in my opinion. use your avodart and minoxidil and never think about hairloss again.
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Felk said:
Do you have a link to this study? 25% sounds much more realistic to me. I am getting sides as well, but damn I want hair so much....
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Taugenichts said:
Tough decision I guess. Me If I had sides from them like I wasn't able to get it up or didn't want to I'd rather lose my hair, but I guess it's easy to say that as someone who has actually gotten a somewhat increased libido from the drugs. Just watch your titties closely and make sure you have no sgins of gyno. Also if you're on finasteride now, try switching to dutasteride. That's what aplunk and others have done and their sides disappeared. That's not why they switched, to get rid of the sides, but it's a nice benefit obviously. The drugs have totally different compositions so it's possible for you to have no sides on dutasteride after having them on finasteride.
But then people will tell you that dutasteride is unsafe blah blah blah evil merck gsk f*****g american drug companies blah blah. SO then you have to decide whether it's worth risking brain damage to have your nw2. . :lol:
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To me it is not a tough decision. I love my hair and I would do anything to keep it. It is not that I have a problem to get it up. The problem is that I have no desire to do so and jerk off. I have lost my sex drive completly. But since I don´t have a girlfriend anyways this is not a big problem at the moment. And there is always L-Arginine or maybe even v**** left if I ever need it to. To counter gyno I have started to do pushups like crazy in order to prevent fat on my chest. Works quite good so far.
But yeah, I have read quite a few times that people have less sides on dutasteride than on finasteride. I will definetly try it. It is just a matter of time. I am not scarred of it. Dying from a car accident is about one million times more likely than dying from dutasteride.
But yeah, I have read quite a few times that people have less sides on dutasteride than on finasteride. I will definetly try it. It is just a matter of time. I am not scarred of it. Dying from a car accident is about one million times more likely than dying from dutasteride.
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if gyno is going to happen, it's going to happen, regardless of how many pushups you do. i'm not in fantastic shape and i have no tits from dutasteride. but i wouldn't worry about gyno since it's so rare.
SkylineGTR
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if it does happen just cut your dose or take some anti estrogen crap. simple as that. it is reversable. Your not going to be man boob scarred for the rest of your life
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And to the people who suggest that I've never experienced sexual side effects:
About 2-3 months into my quotidian dose of Propecia, I began noticing it was increasinly difficult to get up and maintain an erection. I even documented this in a personal journal.
I remember meeting a girlfriend, whom lived a few cities over, and we rented a hotel room. For the first time in my life, I was unable to get an erection. We tried for hours. I was only 19. Pretty bad, huh?
This went on for quite a while... about 9 or 10 months into my Propecia, it started to get a little bit better, but it was still not the same.
I hope you can all trust that I'm giving you my honest, unbiased opinion of the side effects of these two drugs.
About 2-3 months into my quotidian dose of Propecia, I began noticing it was increasinly difficult to get up and maintain an erection. I even documented this in a personal journal.
I remember meeting a girlfriend, whom lived a few cities over, and we rented a hotel room. For the first time in my life, I was unable to get an erection. We tried for hours. I was only 19. Pretty bad, huh?
This went on for quite a while... about 9 or 10 months into my Propecia, it started to get a little bit better, but it was still not the same.
I hope you can all trust that I'm giving you my honest, unbiased opinion of the side effects of these two drugs.