Anyone that used just Finasteride and Ketoconazole mind sharing their stories?

[davesmith420]

Hey guys, I always see success stories where guys used the Big 3 and got great results. However I don't see finasteride and Keto success stories as often. Does anyone that had success with just the two mind sharing their results? I feel like most people that use finasteride and Keto have minor hair loss, and probably don't bother visiting these forums anymore after they see results.

 

[MrDepressed]

Yeah I only use Finasteride and Ketoconazole (Regenepure DR) and never tried minoxidil that my dermatologist said that minoxidil isn't needed for me, probably I have mild thinning, though male pattern baldness started at like 18 years old (22 years old now)
Have slight thickening so idk if that only comes from finasteride or only from using Regenepure shampoos knowing they thicken hair as well....or maybe both?
Been using finasteride for 4 months and Keto for 3 months

 

[davesmith420]

Yeah I only use Finasteride and Ketoconazole (Regenepure DR) and never tried minoxidil that my dermatologist said that minoxidil isn't needed for me, probably I have mild thinning, though male pattern baldness started at like 18 years old (22 years old now)
Have slight thickening so idk if that only comes from finasteride or only from using Regenepure shampoos knowing they thicken hair as well....or maybe both?
Been using finasteride for 4 months and Keto for 3 months

We have very similar stories man! I'm 22 and I've been on finasteride and Keto for a little over 3 months now. I would say that Finasteride is probably doing 95% of the work in making your hair thicker while Regenepure is helping keep your scalp clean and healthy.

 

[MrDepressed]

Cool thats awesome that we have similar stories. Btw sorry I did not notice your reply. So I'm guessing you have mild male pattern baldness too right? Any improvement from your finasteride? No shedding too right? I also noticed I dont have much shedding as I thought that I should have the sheding phase right

 

[davesmith420]

Cool thats awesome that we have similar stories. Btw sorry I did not notice your reply. So I'm guessing you have mild male pattern baldness too right? Any improvement from your finasteride? No shedding too right? I also noticed I dont have much shedding as I thought that I should have the sheding phase right

It's all good man! Yeah basically I barely shed anymore, I went from losing 40-50 hairs in the shower to like 10 max. I would like to think I'm experiencing just "normal" shedding now. I think my hair looks darker/healthier too.

 

[HLTtdc4412]

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[MrDepressed]

It's all good man! Yeah basically I barely shed anymore, I went from losing 40-50 hairs in the shower to like 10 max. I would like to think I'm experiencing just "normal" shedding now. I think my hair looks darker/healthier too.

Is your father bald as well? And since when you started having male pattern baldness? Because i'm not sure if it could be too late for me to fully regrow hair since mine started at like 18.
Mind showing me some pictures? I would show mine soon

 

[davesmith420]

I see absolutely no problems with your hairline, I don't suppose it radically changed in those 3 months you say you've been on treatment?

I haven't grown anything except for those few hairs on my "weaker" temple but it is also still really early in the game. The thing that did radically change was my shedding, pretreatments I was losing 40-50 hairs in the shower, now I lose like 10 max. I just caught it super early, I feel if I didn't act quick things were going to get bad quick.

 

[HNMB]

My dad is like a Norwood 1.5 but he is starting to diffuse thin a little, but I would say his hair is pretty damn good for someone in his early 60s. I think my male pattern baldness started around 20 or so.

I have a very similar story where my dad is about a Norwood 2 with slight diffuse thinning but otherwise fantastic for someone his age. Whereas I have started losing hair at around 18/19 and I'm 20 now. It's been puzzling to me because it's making me wonder if it's environmental rather than genetic. Any other males in your family thinning?

 

[davesmith420]

I have a very similar story where my dad is about a Norwood 2 with slight diffuse thinning but otherwise fantastic for someone his age. Whereas I have started losing hair at around 18/19 and I'm 20 now. It's been puzzling to me because it's making me wonder if it's environmental rather than genetic. Any other males in your family thinning?

My grandpa (dad's dad) was like a Norwood 3 most of his life and rocked a pretty heavy comb over. Now in his 80s he is a NW5-6.

On my mom's side my mom's dad died when he was young but he had a thick Norwood 1 in a picture I saw in his mid 20s. My one uncle is a Norwood 4 at 60 and the others are like Norwood 2.

 

[MrDepressed]

Your crown looks quite dense, while I'm not sure if I do have diffuse.
Here are mine so you can take a look and tell me if you could see differences with your honest opinions lol. Sometimes I have doubts about having improvement (which I'm not sure if I have BDD knowing that I take times staring at my hair in the mirror everyday...)

Before taking finasteride (like years ago):








2 months on Finasteride (Around January)
http://i63.tinypic.com/ao7upi.jpg
http://i68.tinypic.com/29n9mqh.jpg


And now the pics of today are below (Sorry for some reason I couldn't put all my pics in the same post)
PS: the attached image is the same as the one from 2 months on finasteride

 

[MrDepressed]

 

[MrDepressed]

 

[davesmith420]

I think your hair looks healthier and your crown is starting to fill in, nice!

 

[MrDepressed]

I think your hair looks healthier and your crown is starting to fill in, nice!

Thanks for the relieves (if your honest lol )
But do you think that was diffuse thinning I had? I might sound dumb but because I'm not sure whats the difference between diffuse thinning and normal thinning

 

[davesmith420]

Thanks for the relieves (if your honest lol )
But do you think that was diffuse thinning I had? I might sound dumb but because I'm not sure whats the difference between diffuse thinning and normal thinning

Nah man I think you just had crown thinning and some ever slight recession at the hairline. It's normal to see scalp like that when you pull/part your hair like that, look at girls with cornrows.

 

[science_d]

Based on the studies I have seen, the 1% concentration of ketoconazole (such as in Regenepure and non-prescription Nizoral in the U.S.) is not as effective in combating hair loss as the 2%. While it reduces shedding, it doesn't seem capable of increasing hair density on its own (http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1046/j.1467-2494.2002.00145.x/abstract). The 2% ketoconazole, on the other hand, can increase hair density basically as much as 2% minoxidil can (https://attackplan.wordpress.com/2016/02/27/helpful/). If one is already using finasteride, they can add the 2% ketoconazole shampoo for a stronger effect (according to this study - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12227482). 1% couldn't hurt, though, and it would still have a mild positive effect.

 

[MrDepressed]

Nah man I think you just had crown thinning and some ever slight recession at the hairline. It's normal to see scalp like that when you pull/part your hair like that, look at girls with cornrows.

So whats the difference between normal thinning and diffuse thinning? If you could define me that lol?

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Based on the studies I have seen, the 1% concentration of ketoconazole (such as in Regenepure and non-prescription Nizoral in the U.S.) is not as effective in combating hair loss as the 2%. While it reduces shedding, it doesn't seem capable of increasing hair density on its own (http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1046/j.1467-2494.2002.00145.x/abstract). The 2% ketoconazole, on the other hand, can increase hair density basically as much as minoxidil can (https://attackplan.wordpress.com/2016/02/27/helpful/). However, if one is already using finasteride, the 1% is probably good enough.

Then what do you think of a 0,25% ketoconazole (Revita) with 1,25mg finasteride on mild male pattern baldness?

 

[davesmith420]

So whats the difference between normal thinning and diffuse thinning? If you could define me that lol? 

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Then what do you think of a 0,25% ketoconazole (Revita) with 1,25mg finasteride on mild male pattern baldness?

"Normal thinning" I guess would just mean thinning in your hair line and /or crown while diffuse thinning usually covers all of your head.

 

[science_d]

Then what do you think of a 0,25% ketoconazole (Revita) with 1,25mg finasteride on mild male pattern baldness?

I think if you are taking finasteride, the effect of a 0.25% ketoconazole shampoo on top of that would probably be negligible. (It wouldn't hurt anything, though.) The evidence shows that finasteride plus 2% ketoconazole shampoo can produce a greater effect than using finasteride alone (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12227482), but I have not seen any evidence that something with such a low concentration of ketoconazole (like 0.25%) would have any significant effect. Indeed, even the 1% concentration had only mild effects on hair growth.

The bottom line is if you have mild male pattern baldness and are taking finasteride, adding 0.25% keto shampoo would probably promote general health in your hair, but not add any significant effect on hair growth. If at some point you wanted to add to the effect of the finasteride, you would have to use at least a 1% concentration (preferably 2%).