Anyone had success without finasteride? maintenance=success

[optimus prime]

I keep hearing about people having success with finasteride, but what about without it. There are some other good products out there...isn't there?

There seems to be a fair amount of people who have sides with finasteride and cannot use it...what do you do?

What about these products:

Proxiphen, Tricomin, Folligen, etc.

 

[Tiger's Bald Spot]

It all depends. I don't think you can really rely on any one person's success because everyone's hair is different and the rate of thinning everyone gets is different.

For example, my dad just used minoxidil. He started at 38 when he started to get a bald spot. His bald spot became unnoticeable shortly therafter, and he maintained until he hit 50. So, he had 12 years of maintenance.

I started thinning in my crown at 24. I used minoxidil. I had amazing results for 2 years, but it begun to regress to the baseline already for me. How long before I am "slick" bald is an open question. I guess if i make it to 35 without being slick bald, then that might be a kind of success.

I don't think any of those other products you listed do anything.

 

[Hoppi]

I have heard of people getting success with just diet, beta-sitosterol/diet/Nizoral, the IH regimen, cutting allergies erm.. I believe curcumin and resveratrol too. That's all I can think of atm!


Oh, and apparently topical onion, as crazy as that sounds!

And in theory I can see curing one's hypothyroidism and insulin resistance might help a lot, if those 2 are applicable, as you will balance hormones and cut down inflammation dramatically I believe. For now that's a hypothetical though

 

[Jokerman]

I have heard of people getting success with just diet

:smoke:

 

[optimus prime]

I have heard of people getting success with just diet, beta-sitosterol/diet/Nizoral, the IH regimen, cutting allergies erm.. I believe curcumin and resveratrol too. That's all I can think of atm!


Oh, and apparently topical onion, as crazy as that sounds!

And in theory I can see curing one's hypothyroidism and insulin resistance might help a lot, if those 2 are applicable, as you will balance hormones and cut down inflammation dramatically I believe. For now that's a hypothetical though

I am interested in your theory Hoppi.

My hairloss started very slowly on the crown. I guess it started when I was 18, but did not become noticeable until I was 20-21, then I had a batch of stress and it accelerated and my scalp inflamed and it went nuts.

I had defuse thinning all over as well as a very thin crown. I managed to control my stress and my hair loss calmed down a little, but it never really stopped until I took finasteride. Once I took finasteride my whole hair thickened up.

Maybe this means I have male pattern baldness rather than another issue, but my hairloss was accelerated by the stress?

I don't really want to stay on finasteride for much longer. Maybe 1 more year. (been on it 2 years).

What are your thoughts on stopping hairloss by controlling the immune system from attacking the hair? Do you think that diet can help control the immune system?

 

[optimus prime]

It all depends. I don't think you can really rely on any one person's success because everyone's hair is different and the rate of thinning everyone gets is different.

For example, my dad just used minoxidil. He started at 38 when he started to get a bald spot. His bald spot became unnoticeable shortly therafter, and he maintained until he hit 50. So, he had 12 years of maintenance.

I started thinning in my crown at 24. I used minoxidil. I had amazing results for 2 years, but it begun to regress to the baseline already for me. How long before I am "slick" bald is an open question. I guess if i make it to 35 without being slick bald, then that might be a kind of success.

I don't think any of those other products you listed do anything.

Very true.

However, if there is a fair number of people maintaining using certain products, I would like to cut my finasteride down to 0.25 and use these products.

However, if nobody is having much success, then I will give it a year or 2 and then stop and shave my head, even if I am having great success like now.

Even if I am lucky to not get sides, I don't really want to be tied to finasteride for the next 10 years.

 

[Hoppi]

I have heard of people getting success with just diet, beta-sitosterol/diet/Nizoral, the IH regimen, cutting allergies erm.. I believe curcumin and resveratrol too. That's all I can think of atm!


Oh, and apparently topical onion, as crazy as that sounds!

And in theory I can see curing one's hypothyroidism and insulin resistance might help a lot, if those 2 are applicable, as you will balance hormones and cut down inflammation dramatically I believe. For now that's a hypothetical though

I am interested in your theory Hoppi.

My hairloss started very slowly on the crown. I guess it started when I was 18, but did not become noticeable until I was 20-21, then I had a batch of stress and it accelerated and my scalp inflamed and it went nuts.

I had defuse thinning all over as well as a very thin crown. I managed to control my stress and my hair loss calmed down a little, but it never really stopped until I took finasteride. Once I took finasteride my whole hair thickened up.

Maybe this means I have male pattern baldness rather than another issue, but my hairloss was accelerated by the stress?

I don't really want to stay on finasteride for much longer. Maybe 1 more year. (been on it 2 years).

What are your thoughts on stopping hairloss by controlling the immune system from attacking the hair? Do you think that diet can help control the immune system?

I'm not so sure about controlling immune system responses, but I believe most of the IH regimen (that mine is derived from) is targeted at inflammation and achieving good hormonal balance.

Basically, I was eating junk and getting too stressed lol And it seems rather coincidental to me that in the space of about a week my skin went all weird and dry and kinda "thin", and then over the next 6 months my hair was steadily falling out!! heh

It's all a bit sucky but.. it seems to me that there could be several reasons for this. There is a chance that some "gene got switched on" or whatever, but if I were to just apply my raw logic to the situation, I would say there's a much higher chance that my stress threw my thyroid off, both threw my hormones off, and both caused inflammation. My diet increased inflammation and threw my hormones off I would imagine.

And I am currently getting long, thin hairs and even the occasional hair with limited pigmentation (only one or two technically "grey" hairs, but my friend who has some male pattern baldness gets these too more than his gf who has a full head of healthy hair). It's all a little coincidental for me, and so my regimen is yes, aimed at hormonal balance, calming stress, calming my thyroid and thyroid resistance, and reducing inflammation down to pretty much zero

I mean last resort, yes, I use finasteride or something to kill my DHT - but imagine if this does work (and there are a lot of people that seem to vouch for it!)... I will be healthier than ever before, my skin will go back to normal, my hair will be solved/cured at source... less anxiety, healthy thyroid, healthy liver! I mean you don't get all this with Finasteride and Minoxidil! hehe ^_^

But yeah erm, the evidence and science is there, in myself and collectively, so let's see if it works!


EDIT -- Hell I've even learnt from the same source how to improve my eyesight and partly heal my ears (I messed them up a bit through years of gigs lol) so erm... I mean at the moment it's coming up roses, I just need to see how my hair fares!

 

[adolobe]

[quote="Tiger's Bald Spot":tv12w5tc]It all depends. I don't think you can really rely on any one person's success because everyone's hair is different and the rate of thinning everyone gets is different.

For example, my dad just used minoxidil. He started at 38 when he started to get a bald spot. His bald spot became unnoticeable shortly therafter, and he maintained until he hit 50. So, he had 12 years of maintenance.

I started thinning in my crown at 24. I used minoxidil. I had amazing results for 2 years, but it begun to regress to the baseline already for me. How long before I am "slick" bald is an open question. I guess if i make it to 35 without being slick bald, then that might be a kind of success.

I don't think any of those other products you listed do anything.

Very true.

However, if there is a fair number of people maintaining using certain products, I would like to cut my finasteride down to 0.25 and use these products.

However, if nobody is having much success, then I will give it a year or 2 and then stop and shave my head, even if I am having great success like now.

Even if I am lucky to not get sides, I don't really want to be tied to finasteride for the next 10 years.[/quote:tv12w5tc]


For most individuals with out severe lost .25mg is more than enough to maintain. Of course it varies from person to person and you have to try it to find out if your a good responder. But based off the clinical trials .2mg was 80% as affective as 1mg of finasteride taken orally each day.

Hope that helps